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Wider Wargaming => Resources => Resources - Ancients to Renaissance (3000BC - 1680) => Topic started by: Druzhina on 19 September 2015, 04:01:55 AM

Title: North Africans in padded armour
Post by: Druzhina on 19 September 2015, 04:01:55 AM
North Africans in padded armour

Moorish cavalry and archers in padded armour on the Reliquary Casket of Saint Dominic of Silos, Cuenca, 1026AD, Museo De Burgos (http://www.warfare.altervista.org/6C-11C/Casket-Museo_De_Burgos.htm) and details of archers in padded and mail armour. (http://www.warfare.altervista.org/6C-11C/Casket-Museo_De_Burgos-archers.htm)
(http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=13273&d=1403091342)
. The back of the Reliquary Casket of Saint Dominic of Silos, Cuenca, 1026AD (http://www.warfare.altervista.org/6C-11C/Casket-Museo_De_Burgos-back.htm)
. North African archer in padded armour, upper left of the back of the Burgos casket (http://www.warfare.altervista.org/6C-11C/Casket-Museo_De_Burgos-back-archer-upper-left.htm)
. North African archer in padded armour, lower left of the back of the Burgos casket (http://www.warfare.altervista.org/6C-11C/Casket-Museo_De_Burgos-back-archer-lower-left.htm)
Arab or Berber infantryman in quilted armour on a ceramic wall-plaque from the Sabra Palace, Tunisia, mid-11th century (http://www.warfare.altervista.org/11/Fatimid_Wall_plaque-11thC.htm)
Moorish Casket from Cuenca, c.1049AD, National Museum of Archaeology, Madrid (http://www.warfare.altervista.org/6C-11C/Cuenca_casket.htm)
. Spearman and victims of lions in padded armour, Moorish Casket from Cuenca, c.1049AD (http://www.warfare.altervista.org/6C-11C/Cuenca_casket-upper.htm)
. Archers in padded armour, Moorish Casket from Cuenca, c.1049AD (http://www.warfare.altervista.org/6C-11C/Cuenca_casket-lower.htm)
Huntsman with spear in quilted armour on a frieze over the door of the Church of San Benedetto, Brindisi, late 11th century (http://www.warfare.altervista.org/11/Fatimid_Brindisi_Frieze-late_11thC.htm)

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Moorish cavalry and archers on the Reliquary Casket of Saint Dominic of Silos, Cuenca, 1026AD, Museo De Burgos (http://www.warfare.uhostfull.com/6C-11C/Casket-Museo_De_Burgos.htm)
Arab or Berber infantryman in quilted armour, on a ceramic wall-plaque from the Sabra Palace, Tunisia, mid-11th century (http://www.warfare.netau.net/11/Fatimid_Wall_plaque-11thC.htm)
Archers and spearmen in padded armour, Moorish Casket from Cuenca, c.1049AD, National Museum of Archaeology, Madrid (http://www.warfare.uhostfull.com/6C-11C/Cuenca_casket.htm)
Huntsman with spear, in quilted armour, on a frieze over the door of the Church of San Benedetto, Brindisi, late 11th century (http://www.warfare.netau.net/11/Fatimid_Brindisi_Frieze-late_11thC.htm)

Druzhina
11th Century Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers (http://www.warfare.altervista.org/11C.htm)
Title: Re: North Africans in padded armour
Post by: Techno on 19 September 2015, 06:27:17 AM
 8)
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: North Africans in padded armour
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 19 September 2015, 06:47:48 AM
When my Grandad was a district commissioner in Nigeria, he claimed some of the Husa's had armour dating back to the crusades (albeit 'Trigger's Broomed'!

Great find D!
Title: Re: North Africans in padded armour
Post by: Steve J on 19 September 2015, 07:20:04 AM
QuoteWhen my Grandad was a district commissioner in Nigeria, he claimed some of the Husa's had armour dating back to the crusades (albeit 'Trigger's Broomed'!

In the museum in Kano there are examples of very finely worked chainmail used by the Hausa. But as to how old it is... :-\
Title: Re: North Africans in padded armour
Post by: Druzhina on 19 September 2015, 08:18:21 AM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 19 September 2015, 06:47:48 AM
When my Grandad was a district commissioner in Nigeria, he claimed some of the Husa's had armour dating back to the crusades (albeit 'Trigger's Broomed'!

Great find D!

'Trigger's Broomed' had me stumped, but I found it was from Only Fools and Horses:
Theseus' Ship Paradox: Trigger is given a medal for owning the same broom for 20 years, although it has had 17 new heads and 14 new handles. When asked how can it be the same broom, Trigger produces a picture of himself and his broom and asks, "What more proof do you need?"

Druzhina
Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers (http://www.warfare.altervista.org/index.htm)
Title: Re: North Africans in padded armour
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 19 September 2015, 08:21:03 AM
There used to be a full set in Liverpool Museum, may still be there. My memory says it was richly coloured in reds and blues.

IanS
Title: Re: North Africans in padded armour
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 19 September 2015, 10:21:07 AM
Quote from: Druzhina on 19 September 2015, 08:18:21 AM
'Trigger's Broomed' had me stumped, but I found it was from Only Fools and Horses:
Theseus' Ship Paradox: Trigger is given a medal for owning the same broom for 20 years, although it has had 17 new heads and 14 new handles. When asked how can it be the same broom, Trigger produces a picture of himself and his broom and asks, "What more proof do you need?"

Druzhina
Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers (http://www.warfare.altervista.org/index.htm)
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That's the one! ;D
Title: Re: North Africans in padded armour
Post by: Ithoriel on 19 September 2015, 02:32:10 PM
I know it as "Washington's Axe" rather than "Trigger's Broom" but same paradox involved.
Title: Re: North Africans in padded armour
Post by: fsn on 19 September 2015, 03:54:13 PM
The "Paradox of the Ship of Theseus" - shows how old it is.