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Non-Wargaming Discussion => Chat & News => Topic started by: Leman on 16 September 2015, 03:39:42 PM

Title: The sound of music
Post by: Leman on 16 September 2015, 03:39:42 PM
Sew, a needle pulling thread....

This is one musical number that is beginning to get right under my skin, so much so that I am thinking of becoming Angry of Tonbridge Wells.
Have people suddenly been trained to start every answer in a TV or radio interview with the word 'so' ? I just don't get it. It is a connective word which is supposed to join two clauses together. E.g. this morning on 'Breakfast':

"Are robots likely to make a great number of people unemployed in the future?"

"So, robots are being used in a number of roles .........."

What a weird, but increasingly persistent, way to answer a question. Don't tell me it's just the language evolving. Every prat on TV seems to be at it, yet I've not come across anyone in ordinary day-to-day conversation who does it.  >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: The sound of music
Post by: Bodvoc on 16 September 2015, 03:44:03 PM
So agree with you! :)
Title: Re: The sound of music
Post by: Techno on 16 September 2015, 03:56:14 PM
 X_X
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: The sound of music
Post by: Fenton on 16 September 2015, 04:52:20 PM
Are you implying that robots could do the same sort of films as Julie Andrews?
Title: Re: The sound of music
Post by: Leman on 16 September 2015, 08:01:36 PM
If robot know's the notes to sing, it can sing most anything.
Lah, tee, dah, so, fah so good, think I'll have some Christmas pud.

Oh 'eck! I'm off me perch!!!
Title: Re: The sound of music
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 16 September 2015, 08:30:07 PM
Quote from: Leman on 16 September 2015, 08:01:36 PM
Oh 'eck! I'm off me perch!!!

Isnt that always the case ?

IanS
Title: Re: The sound of music
Post by: fsn on 16 September 2015, 08:36:29 PM
I find it an occasionally useful device the add emphasis and a certain menace to a question (if you do it right).

"So, who was that lady I saw you with last night?"
Title: Re: The sound of music
Post by: jimduncanuk on 16 September 2015, 09:10:52 PM
Quote from: Leman on 16 September 2015, 03:39:42 PM
Sew, a needle pulling thread....

This is one musical number that is beginning to get right under my skin,

A favourite ditty of a few friends of mine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pUb9pUcvcU
Title: Re: The sound of music
Post by: FierceKitty on 16 September 2015, 11:18:23 PM
It's one on the more regrettable imports from that revolted colony.

(Note for the literate - curious grammar point above. "Revolt" in the relevant sense is generally intransitive, of course.)
Title: Re: The sound of music
Post by: Leman on 17 September 2015, 08:01:21 AM
Do intransitives refuse to wear a dress?
Title: Re: The sound of music
Post by: FierceKitty on 17 September 2015, 08:14:04 AM
Depends on how you address the issue, no doubt.
Title: Re: The sound of music
Post by: Techno on 17 September 2015, 09:23:13 AM
I want to know....

Which is absolutely correct.

An historian.
A historian.
An history.
A history.

I understand that 'a' and 'an' could/can be "interchangeable " depending on dialect.
For example.....I'd say "A haddock".....But if you dropped the 'h'.....I suppose that "An 'addock" would sound right.

Answers on a postcard please.

Cheers - Confused of Wales.
Title: Re: The sound of music
Post by: Redstef on 17 September 2015, 09:36:06 AM
So, what's this thread about then ?
Title: Re: The sound of music
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 17 September 2015, 09:56:32 AM
Gwammer ??

IanS
Title: Re: The sound of music
Post by: FierceKitty on 17 September 2015, 10:06:47 AM
Treat 'h' at the start of an unstressed syllable as a vowel - thus, an histor'ian, but a his'tory.
If the vowel has nothing to do with the pronunciation, as a result of either dialect ('addock) or our language's frankly deranged spelling (honour), ignore it and treat it as a vowel. And if a vowel has a consonantal sound (university), treat it as a consonant.

I'll have a small Frangelico, thank you. Or some Mexicans.
Title: Re: The sound of music
Post by: Techno on 17 September 2015, 11:51:37 AM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 17 September 2015, 10:06:47 AM
Treat 'h' at the start of an unstressed syllable as a vowel - thus, an histor'ian, but a his'tory.

I think I understand. (Stupid bloody language.... ;))
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: The sound of music
Post by: FierceKitty on 17 September 2015, 12:10:40 PM
Quote from: Techno on 17 September 2015, 11:51:37 AM
I think I understand. (Stupid bloody language.... ;))
Cheers - Phil

German would have made a much more user-friendly world language.
Title: Re: The sound of music
Post by: Ithoriel on 17 September 2015, 12:39:03 PM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 17 September 2015, 12:10:40 PM
German would have made a much more user-friendly world language.

They've tried that a couple of times ;)
Title: Re: The sound of music
Post by: Techno on 17 September 2015, 12:52:26 PM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: The sound of music
Post by: FierceKitty on 17 September 2015, 01:08:05 PM
Third time lucky....
Title: Re: The sound of music
Post by: Glorfindel on 17 September 2015, 06:13:25 PM
>>Have people suddenly been trained to start every answer in a TV or radio interview with the word 'so' ? I just don't get it. It is a connective word which is supposed to join two clauses together. E.g. this morning on 'Breakfast':

I totally agree, this is one that really gets under my skin.
Isn't it strange how different language fashions have such power to iritate.
I just don't understand why so many sheep follow this particular trend.

Other word fashions that iritate :

    a.   The movement away from 'room' to 'space'.   Grrrr.   Its a bl**dy
    room !!

    b.   "I'm, just loving this XXXX".   That really winds me up.


I actually feel better now !


Phil
Is this an age thing ?   Do younger folk invent phrases to differentiate
themselves from the old gits (like me)...

Title: Re: The sound of music
Post by: Ithoriel on 17 September 2015, 06:19:30 PM
So, what's wrong with "space" exactly? I mean, going forward, aren't we all singing from the same hymn sheet in looking to maximise our synergies and harness the power of blue-sky thinking? ;)

As an "old fogey" who (mis)uses "so" regularly in that way, I blame a cavalier attitude to grammar!
Title: Re: The sound of music
Post by: jimduncanuk on 17 September 2015, 07:01:35 PM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 17 September 2015, 06:19:30 PM
So, what's wrong with "space" exactly? I mean, going forward, aren't we all singing from the same hymn sheet in looking to maximise our synergies and harness the power of blue-sky thinking? ;)


"space", hmm, thought that was the final frontier.
Title: Re: The sound of music
Post by: Tawa on 17 September 2015, 09:10:06 PM
Quote from: jimduncanuk on 17 September 2015, 07:01:35 PM
"space", hmm, thought that was the final frontier.



Well, these are obviously the continuing adventures of the crew of the USS Pendraken......
Title: Re: The sound of music
Post by: Westmarcher on 17 September 2015, 09:24:50 PM
Quote from: jimduncanuk on 17 September 2015, 07:01:35 PM
"space", hmm, thought that was the final frontier.



.... but not as we know it, Jim.
Title: Re: The sound of music
Post by: jimduncanuk on 17 September 2015, 10:26:34 PM
Quote from: Westmarcher on 17 September 2015, 09:24:50 PM

.... but not as we know it, Jim.

Star Trekkin'

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCARADb9asE
Title: Re: The sound of music
Post by: Techno on 18 September 2015, 06:28:18 AM
Classic ! (In a very strange way.)  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: The sound of music
Post by: DanJ on 18 September 2015, 08:26:21 AM
QuoteIs this an age thing ?   Do younger folk invent phrases to differentiate
themselves from the old gits (like me)...

Yes!

If the kids of today aren't annoyning their elders they aren't doing their jobs properly.
Title: Re: The sound of music
Post by: DanJ on 18 September 2015, 08:29:02 AM
And I get my own back by sending properly spelt and grammatically correct texts........

Although FK might not think so.
Title: Re: The sound of music
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 18 September 2015, 09:45:34 AM
So of course whilst thinking out side the envelope we have to take on board at this moment in time the concept that this is personal living space.

I go more ....

IanS  :)
Title: Re: The sound of music
Post by: Techno on 18 September 2015, 10:34:39 AM
 ;D ;D ;D
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: The sound of music
Post by: Westmarcher on 18 September 2015, 11:24:55 AM
Quote from: Tawa on 17 September 2015, 09:10:06 PM

Well, these are obviously the continuing adventures of the crew of the USS Pendraken......

To boldly go where no brush has gone before ..
Title: Re: The sound of music
Post by: FierceKitty on 18 September 2015, 12:04:02 PM
...to boldly split infinitives that no man had split before...
Title: Re: The sound of music
Post by: Westmarcher on 18 September 2015, 12:17:24 PM
 ... yes, I know. People don't believe me when I point that one out.  :-B
Title: Re: The sound of music
Post by: FierceKitty on 18 September 2015, 01:07:01 PM
I'm quoting Douglas Adams, who gets too little credit for beating Terry Pratchett to it.
Title: Re: The sound of music
Post by: DanJ on 18 September 2015, 04:01:22 PM
Quoteto boldly split infinitives that no man had split before

to infinitives and beyond!!!