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Title: Trial by Fire (WW1 Rules)
Post by: Batu Khan on 10 September 2015, 02:43:04 PM
Hello everyone,

A few months ago, I had started to work on a WW1 rules set with help of some friends. Trial by Fire rules will be adaptable to both Great War and early 20th century battles; but they will focus more closely on Middle Eastern Front and wars of Ottoman Empire. What I plan to do is to share the rules free for everyone and in future, if I may do that, publish a rulebook. The book will cover the rules in detail, history information, suggested army lists and scenarios. I'm thinking of including four main fronts in rulebook for start; 1. Gallipoli, 2. Middle East, 3. Caucasus Campaign and 4. Greek-Turkish War of 1919-22.

In Trial by Fire, players control regiments, which are composed of several battalions. The basic tactical unit is the company. Game also features a "Regimental Orders" optional rule, where players will be able to give written secret orders to their units. Distances are compatible for both 10mm and 15mm gameplay, whichever players prefer. Of course anyone is free to adapt them to bigger scales like 28mm. (converting cm to inches would be good for this)

Anyway, rules are still being written. Here is the google docs format;

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EADd9-PJ8VtahKdCo53Sb7bd0YzAzYk_55BMktz9Cyg/edit

And here is the international facebook project group;

https://www.facebook.com/groups/166864450318149/?fref=ts

I'm all open to every suggestion and input from you guys. Please comment / critique and if you're interested, follow the project. There are still many parts uncovered by rules and these are just the foundations of rules. If things get going, I plan to do more things about this rule set, include many more fronts and battles, provide a lot of army lists from ANZAC infantry fighting in Gallipoli to Tribal Light Cavalry forces used by Ottomans in Middle East.

Anyway, enough talking, hope you like them...

M. Batuhan Tuncdemir (an historical wargamer from Turkey)

EDIT: FEB 2016 - Here's the latest version of rules with some sample army lists and scenarios
http://trialbyfirerules.blogspot.com.tr/2016/02/rules-revised-and-sample-lists-scenarios.html
Title: Re: Trial by Fire (WW1 Rules)
Post by: Subedai on 10 September 2015, 07:04:28 PM
Put in a Google request.
Title: Re: Trial by Fire (WW1 Rules)
Post by: paulr on 10 September 2015, 08:18:41 PM
Sounds interesting, will keep an eye on these as they develop

Please keep us posted
Title: Re: Trial by Fire (WW1 Rules)
Post by: NeilCFord on 10 September 2015, 11:27:44 PM
Quote from: Subedai on 10 September 2015, 07:04:28 PM
Put in a Google request.

Ditto.

Great to see more stuff covering the middle eastern conflicts of WWI. Look forward to checking your rules out.

- Neil.
Title: Re: Trial by Fire (WW1 Rules)
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 11 September 2015, 12:15:58 AM
Hello

Being a Rules Junkie, I've put in a Google request too.

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan
Title: Re: Trial by Fire (WW1 Rules)
Post by: Batu Khan on 11 September 2015, 05:57:30 AM
Thank you all for the interest!

The link I shared above was the one for editing. I shared it with all who asked.

Here is the link which is just for viewing, those who want to comment on document etc can still ask me for edit sharing. Those who just want to view the file, can see the below link.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EADd9-PJ8VtahKdCo53Sb7bd0YzAzYk_55BMktz9Cyg/edit?usp=sharing
Title: Re: Trial by Fire (WW1 Rules)
Post by: Fenton on 11 September 2015, 08:07:43 AM
These look very interesting. Thanks for sharing
Title: Re: Trial by Fire (WW1 Rules)
Post by: KTravlos on 11 September 2015, 07:25:49 PM
Great start Mehmet. There is a facebook group and I uploaded two draft army lists for Turkish Nationalists and Greeks for the War of Turkish Independence (Asia Minor Campaign) . Mostly based on a greek military history magazine, and the new Osprey book on the Greek-Turkish War of 1919-1922.
Title: Re: Trial by Fire (WW1 Rules)
Post by: Batu Khan on 12 September 2015, 11:34:32 AM
Much thanks Konstantinos! I will revise them sometime and share them as "beta army lists" if you're also fine with that.
Title: Re: Trial by Fire (WW1 Rules)
Post by: KTravlos on 12 September 2015, 06:38:04 PM
No problem
Title: Re: Trial by Fire (WW1 Rules)
Post by: NeilCFord on 12 September 2015, 08:49:44 PM
I'm liking what I've read so far, which is admittedly not much. Intend to spend tomorrow reading the document from front to back.

I'm guessing any comments are best posted to the Facebook group, yes?

- Neil.
Title: Re: Trial by Fire (WW1 Rules)
Post by: Batu Khan on 13 September 2015, 06:52:49 AM
Facebook group is good. But actually anywhere you feel comfortable is ok for me, including here :)
Title: Re: Trial by Fire (WW1 Rules)
Post by: sunjester on 13 September 2015, 08:52:26 AM
I'm quite interested in this but not on Facebook. :(

KTravlos - is there anywhere else to see your army lists? I'm currently looking at putting together Greek and Turkish armies (for a start) for the Balkans conflicts.
Title: Re: Trial by Fire (WW1 Rules)
Post by: Batu Khan on 13 September 2015, 01:49:02 PM
They are in fb group  :D :D :D

But I'm revising them and think of putting them to the blog in a few days. Will let you guys know when it's done.
Title: Re: Trial by Fire (WW1 Rules)
Post by: KTravlos on 13 September 2015, 05:25:54 PM
If Batu Khan wants to put them in a google drive file and share them, that is cool with me. Otherwise I can do it.
Title: Re: Trial by Fire (WW1 Rules)
Post by: sunjester on 14 September 2015, 07:11:43 AM
Quote from: KTravlos on 13 September 2015, 05:25:54 PM
If Batu Khan wants to put them in a google drive file and share them, that is cool with me. Otherwise I can do it.

If you could do that, that would be great!
Title: Re: Trial by Fire (WW1 Rules)
Post by: Batu Khan on 14 September 2015, 08:56:19 AM
http://trialbyfirerules.blogspot.com.tr/

They are ready! ;)

Note: The unedited versions may be found in fb page or by-contacting KTravlos.
Title: Re: Trial by Fire (WW1 Rules)
Post by: NeilCFord on 14 September 2015, 03:46:24 PM
A quick basing question:

In the rules it states:

QuoteWe use 5 bases in 50x30 dimensions to represent a Full Strength infantry unit

What does a "unit" equate to? Company? Larger? Smaller?

- Neil.
Title: Re: Trial by Fire (WW1 Rules)
Post by: Batu Khan on 14 September 2015, 04:17:27 PM
Company. :)
Title: Re: Trial by Fire (WW1 Rules)
Post by: NeilCFord on 14 September 2015, 04:21:03 PM
Thank you. That's about twice the scale of If The Lord Save Us. Might try using a smaller number of bases and see how things play out.

- Neil.
Title: Re: Trial by Fire (WW1 Rules)
Post by: Batu Khan on 17 October 2015, 08:31:44 AM
New version of rules is out, with visuals and more examples.

Enjoy!

http://trialbyfirerules.blogspot.com.tr/
Title: Re: Trial by Fire (WW1 Rules)
Post by: NeilCFord on 17 October 2015, 10:29:12 PM
Duly grabbed. I have an evening in a hotel this week, an ideal time to give them a thorough read through.

- Neil.
Title: Re: Trial by Fire (WW1 Rules)
Post by: Batu Khan on 18 October 2015, 07:51:47 AM
Waiting for your comments! Also, first miniatures for this game are painted and uploaded to the blog.
Title: Re: Trial by Fire (WW1 Rules)
Post by: Batu Khan on 09 February 2016, 08:38:07 AM
I have revised the rules, made them more easy-going and included many more stuff. Hope you enjoy the changes. They're in my blog:
http://trialbyfirerules.blogspot.com.tr/2016/02/rules-revised-and-sample-lists-scenarios.html

The first post of this topic is also edited.
Title: Re: Trial by Fire (WW1 Rules)
Post by: Big Insect on 27 January 2021, 04:40:45 PM
I've just found this thread - I must see if I can get hold of a copy of these rules.
(see link to the Battle of Tannenberg World Ward 1 thread)

Many thanks
Mark