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Wider Wargaming => Genre/Period Discussion => 20th Century => Topic started by: Sunray on 08 September 2015, 01:05:59 PM

Title: Wargames I could play with Pendraken Korean war figures - if I had any.
Post by: Sunray on 08 September 2015, 01:05:59 PM
Right, first let's start with the Korean conflict itself . Not a favourite of mine, but a few very playable scenarios possible.

1. Pusan - the NK forces are on the offensive, and US Army battalions  based in Japan are rushed into action, often with inappropriate kit.   I last fought this in 25mm, with Matchbox Caffee's,T-35/85s, IMEX (NKPA) and Esci (US)infantry with assorted jeeps, halftracks and soft skins.  My opponent had researched the era, and the T-34s advanced along the road in a single column.   From the 'blue' perspective, it reminded me a little of being the American player in the opening moves of the Battle of the Bulge.

In real life (10 July 1950) the M24s of 24th Recon took out one T34 of the 105th NKAB for the loss of two M24s.  My dice did not roll so well. 

2. A number of good scenarios where ROK units were cut off and US battle groups with M4A3s had to relieve them.

3. Inchon - for the D day types - but if you play by the facts its not much of a game.
    McArthur planned it well- he had the experience. Only 20 men killed by the end of  D+1 and all objectives in the 6 mile beach head perimeter taken.  The only game we could  envisage was bad weather to cover a counter attack.

4. A host of skirmish games where Bazooka teams stalk T34s in urban areas.

5.  After China enters the war, the terrain is the issue.  Velcro needed for bases.

6.  Post Korea the applications for ROK and NKPA figures are endless.   The summer uniform of ROK with field caps and belt order make them ideal for a host of Latin American National Guard units .  NKPA in field caps and Soviet kit are ideal for insurgent (communist backed) and/or State forces throughout  1960s-70s Africa . (Ethiopian People's Militia  were equipped with PPsh-41 and DP-28s as late as  1977).

They can be pitted against Falklands British or Argentine painted up to resemble other forces in a wide range of bush war type games based on AK47 scenarios.

In the long winter months as we wait for Leon to give the command to sculpt, I am sure we can come up with loads of other games crying out for  these versatile figures.
Title: Re: Wargames I could play with Pendraken Korean war figures - if I had any.
Post by: fsn on 08 September 2015, 02:24:36 PM
You bring a tear to an old man's eye.

Wish he'd s*d off so I can agree with you.

You can use WWII US, at a squeeze WWII Australians, and the new commandos may do quite nicely for Brits. Vehicles are also there already, just need some Red infantry to go up against.

I'd like to see the summer uniform rather than winter. More, as you say, versatile. 
Title: Re: Wargames I could play with Pendraken Korean war figures - if I had any.
Post by: Sunray on 08 September 2015, 03:03:01 PM
Quote from: fsn on 08 September 2015, 02:24:36 PM
You bring a tear to an old man's eye.

Wish he'd s*d off so I can agree with you.

You can use WWII US, at a squeeze WWII Australians, and the new commandos may do quite nicely for Brits. Vehicles are also there already, just need some Red infantry to go up against.

I'd like to see the summer uniform rather than winter. More, as you say, versatile. 

I looked for at least one good Centurion scenario (the Kings Royal Irish Hussars ) - the best 'real' action I could find  was at Compo Valley on the Han river in early 1951-
and the first kill is a Cromwell that the Chinese had captured from 7 RTR.    You could add a few T-34s to make a good challenging game- it would be nice for once to play the Brits and not be outgunned and under armoured.

By late April 1951 the Centurions were used to stem the human waves with their MGs and tracks- often hosing other tank's turrets  with ball to clear them of Chinese.   Apart from the early incidents on relatively good tank country, tanks ended up being used as static artillery.  A case of too many mountains and dense forests.

Title: Re: Wargames I could play with Pendraken Korean war figures - if I had any.
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 08 September 2015, 10:59:58 PM
Hello All

Surely there's space for both winter and summer  :D.

Another action is the fighting in Pyongyang June 1950

(http://www.kmike.com/KWjpg/CCFPyongyang.jpg)

How could you go past the classic winter look that can morph as well into so many areas/periods.

(http://www.diggerhistory.info/images/enemy/enemy-korea.jpg)

(http://www.diggerhistory.info/images/enemy/enemy-nth-korea.jpg)

(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s252/BrenWoodard/Surrender.jpg)(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s252/BrenWoodard/Uniform2.jpg)

Not forgetting the bugle:-

(https://cas.awm.gov.au/screen_img/P02758.008)

And some reenactors

(http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s252/BrenWoodard/Forum%20Crap/IMG_0025.jpg)

(http://www.driftingfocus.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/3301372777_dfbf009dff_b.jpg)

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan
Title: Re: Wargames I could play with Pendraken Korean war figures - if I had any.
Post by: Sunray on 09 September 2015, 03:20:48 PM
And Grumpy Old Man (Vic) is the third from the Left.

It did occur to me that Winter Gear Chinese would have a lot of applications for Japanese- Chinese 1938-45 conflict.

I know that that is right up your alley Vic.  But it does limit the scope for applications in post war world.

But hey, rustle up enough votes !
Title: Re: Wargames I could play with Pendraken Korean war figures - if I had any.
Post by: Leman on 09 September 2015, 06:27:06 PM
Ooh, I know.....the Korean War.
Title: Re: Wargames I could play with Pendraken Korean war figures - if I had any.
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 09 September 2015, 10:40:43 PM
Hello

Quote from: Sunray on 09 September 2015, 03:20:48 PM
And Grumpy Old Man (Vic) is the third from the Left.

LOL!!!!  ;D ;D. No I'm sorry, he's way too young and fit looking to be me, although he has managed to grab himself some good kit  :-\ :-\ :D. Those padded trousers look warm and comfy.  :)

Quote
It did occur to me that Winter Gear Chinese would have a lot of applications for Japanese- Chinese 1938-45 conflict.

I think you could use them right back to the early 1920s, and also morph them into other armies - Mongolians at Nomonhan as an example.

QuoteI know that that is right up your alley Vic.  But it does limit the scope for applications in post war world.

But hey, rustle up enough votes !

There's a whole lot of 'what-if' scenarios available, how about a Chinese second front for the WW2 Invasion of the Japanese Home Islands?

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan