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Title: Number of figures per base & spacing
Post by: Bloodaxe on 04 September 2015, 05:05:08 PM
Im finally trying to get a bit of work done on my Warband dwarves.  I have the army set and several packs of add-ons.   Units of infantry are 25 figures/pack.  I can only fit about 10-12 figures per base without it being too cluttered. (for me anyway)  I like to leave a small space around the edge and a spot for the dice frame.

Any one else do this?  How many fit the full 25 ?  Or do you use less?

This will just give me more bases/units for my army.  :)
Title: Re: Number of figures per base & spacing
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 04 September 2015, 05:42:39 PM
17 or 18 work well
Title: Re: Number of figures per base & spacing
Post by: capthugeca on 04 September 2015, 05:53:38 PM
What looks right to you.

I'm using 4x8 bases. So far I've done 10-12 for ghouls and werewolves but I suspect my lepers will be 16-18.
Title: Re: Number of figures per base & spacing
Post by: Bloodaxe on 04 September 2015, 06:05:41 PM
Im using Dwarves and want a "formed" look with straight orderly ranks, so 10-12 have been working for me.  Disorderly mobs of filthy greenskins can probably fit alot more.
Title: Re: Number of figures per base & spacing
Post by: Luddite on 04 September 2015, 06:12:31 PM
Um...

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ejard6F8ltM/VUzUrP2qVDI/AAAAAAAACdc/05lWYe-sa5Q/s640/IMG_1567.JPG)

http://luddite1811.blogspot.co.uk/2015/05/warband-red-mountain-hill-dwarves-part-2.html (http://luddite1811.blogspot.co.uk/2015/05/warband-red-mountain-hill-dwarves-part-2.html)
Title: Re: Number of figures per base & spacing
Post by: fred. on 04 September 2015, 06:23:35 PM
I can get about 8 figures on a 40x20 base!

I'd have thought 25 would be easy on 100x50, you could probably get 40+ if you rank them up tight.

I know some of the Fantasty ranges have fairly large bases, but 10-12 sounds pretty sparse.
Title: Re: Number of figures per base & spacing
Post by: Bloodaxe on 04 September 2015, 06:26:48 PM
Quote from: Luddite on 04 September 2015, 06:12:31 PM
Um...

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ejard6F8ltM/VUzUrP2qVDI/AAAAAAAACdc/05lWYe-sa5Q/s640/IMG_1567.JPG)

http://luddite1811.blogspot.co.uk/2015/05/warband-red-mountain-hill-dwarves-part-2.html (http://luddite1811.blogspot.co.uk/2015/05/warband-red-mountain-hill-dwarves-part-2.html)

Looks great!
I like a little room along the edges of the base and a spot for a dice frame.  I also space my figs a little further apart.
Title: Re: Number of figures per base & spacing
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 04 September 2015, 06:49:01 PM
(http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc94/madlemmey/Fantasy%202012/C56404BB-25FB-464C-87AB-0C71ED23B703_zpsad5nbxcj.jpg) (http://s214.photobucket.com/user/madlemmey/media/Fantasy%202012/C56404BB-25FB-464C-87AB-0C71ED23B703_zpsad5nbxcj.jpg.html)

Here's a work in progress from a couple of weeks ago.
I've rebased some and fitted sabots to some others as you can see, trying to keep the same sort of spacing per base as I had on my 60x30s...
Barbarians in my mind would be in fairly lose order anyway. You can also see a scout base with only about 8 figures on, a generals base with about ten and a shaman base with about five as I want them to look like the rest of the army is staying well clear!
Mounted work well without ranks with about 8-12. My dragon men have a few more.
Title: Re: Number of figures per base & spacing
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 04 September 2015, 06:49:57 PM
And the dummy is my daughter's!
Title: Re: Number of figures per base & spacing
Post by: petercooman on 04 September 2015, 07:22:07 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 04 September 2015, 06:49:57 PM
And the dummy is my daughter's!

That's what they all say  ;D
Title: Re: Number of figures per base & spacing
Post by: FierceKitty on 05 September 2015, 12:53:08 AM
As long as she isn't a dummy, which we have no cause to fear, all is well. (I take it she is of very tender years?)
Title: Re: Number of figures per base & spacing
Post by: Subedai on 05 September 2015, 03:47:37 PM
Quote from: Luddite on 04 September 2015, 06:12:31 PM
Um...

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ejard6F8ltM/VUzUrP2qVDI/AAAAAAAACdc/05lWYe-sa5Q/s640/IMG_1567.JPG)

http://luddite1811.blogspot.co.uk/2015/05/warband-red-mountain-hill-dwarves-part-2.html (http://luddite1811.blogspot.co.uk/2015/05/warband-red-mountain-hill-dwarves-part-2.html)

Like the look of that sized unit. Standards are nice and colourful as well. Look good en masse.
Title: Re: Number of figures per base & spacing
Post by: Bloodaxe on 05 September 2015, 08:02:51 PM
Im thinking more like this:

(all rights to slimreidy/Hunswickian blog)

looks to about 12+ figs/base. Certainly not 25.

Title: Re: Number of figures per base & spacing
Post by: Ithoriel on 05 September 2015, 08:27:01 PM
Have to say I like my close formed-infantry and cavalry bases packed to capacity.

12 figures on a 100mm x 50mm might do for skirmishers but it looks pretty empty to me. I'm wondering if I can pack 12 Warmaster HE infantry strips onto a Warband base which would give me 72 figures arranged in 6 ranks and 12 files which begins to look like a unit.

As always, each to their own though.
Title: Re: Number of figures per base & spacing
Post by: fred. on 05 September 2015, 08:31:20 PM
I'm not sure you will get 12 WM strips on a Warband base, 10 should definately be doable.

If you are able to snip some strips in half you could get 2.5 across, and 5 deep. Which would be 90 figures, which would look good.

A Warband pike base could look very impressive. Hmm....
Title: Re: Number of figures per base & spacing
Post by: makebelievebkk on 06 September 2015, 04:13:16 AM
Hi all

I just got a copy of the rules and I really like the feel of them. Looking forward to first games. Now, I am gonna put my head on the block and ask...

Has anyone used 28mm figs? 
I have a lot of 28s that have been sitting around for ages so i am considering rebasing them for Warband. I was thinking of increasing the base sizes but i think this may effect play to some degree. I love the idea of vignettes but this may be tough with larger scales on 100x50mm

Any thoughts ?  (am i a heretic?)

cheers
Title: Re: Number of figures per base & spacing
Post by: fsn on 06 September 2015, 06:43:29 AM
Sir!

Since this is your first post, we will forgive you the foul language. However, please note that some of our older members have dicky tickers and may not be able to take the stress.  :P

Welcome to the forum.

... and no, I have never dabbled in the Devil's scale.
Title: Re: Number of figures per base & spacing
Post by: fred. on 06 September 2015, 06:46:06 AM
Welcome.

There are some reports using 28mm figures - I think they used 120mm frontages.

As the rules are all in Base Widths it should all work fine. You might need a slightly larger table, but 6x4 seems to have a fair bit of space with 100mm frontages. You will also need to know your 12 times table  ;)
Title: Re: Number of figures per base & spacing
Post by: Techno on 06 September 2015, 06:53:52 AM
A very warm welcome to the forum, MB.  :-h

Sorry. :( Can't answer your question, though.
Something (at the back of my tiny mind) is telling me that either someone has asked this question before.....OR.....Someone has already adapted the rules to use larger figures.
I'm sure they'll be along soon, to give you the 'heads up'.

(Yes !....You are a heretic !  ;))

Cheers - Phil (Aha !...Good....Fred's given some pointers, while I've been plonking this out.)
Title: Re: Number of figures per base & spacing
Post by: makebelievebkk on 06 September 2015, 07:09:57 AM
Thx for the welcome folks.

I know 'bad language' can be shocking!  I love the look of 10mm and I play lots of 6mm ancients. Its just I have these figs lying around and want to use them lol - if not they will have to go! (which of course could fund a 10mm project....nooooooo!   dont even think it!

I thought about 120mm as it might look better and it fits with other games' base sizes. However, 100x50 is so terribly neat and easy to calculate lol

I am wondering if 120 will make a huge difference in table space. Do you find that 100mm on 6'x4' leaves a lot of flanking space and would it be hugely constricted if there were 3-4 less basewidths available?

Title: Re: Number of figures per base & spacing
Post by: fsn on 06 September 2015, 09:35:22 AM
It's not my thing, but have you looked at what the chaps have been doing with the Warband stuff?

To me it's a bit like synchronised swimming ... I have no idea what's going on but it's very impressive. And cheap. You must be talking over a quid per figure for a Perry's 28mm (which are very nice). You could get six or seven times as much from the Pendraken Warband range.

Go on it makes sense!

You wouldn't have to think about basing problems.



No, I am not a Pendraken salesman, just a fullt brainwashed member of the forum.
Title: Re: Number of figures per base & spacing
Post by: petercooman on 06 September 2015, 10:11:06 AM
It was stenicplus that made the batreps with bigger scale models.I'll link you to his blog:


http://stenicplus.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Warband


And in this post he talks a bit about how the base size works for them:

http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,12206.0.html

Title: Re: Number of figures per base & spacing
Post by: NTM on 06 September 2015, 10:38:48 AM
Look at the first entry on the FAQ

http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,11265.0.html

Basically 8-10 figures per base pretty much the same as GW War of the Ring
Title: Re: Number of figures per base & spacing
Post by: Techno on 06 September 2015, 11:28:20 AM
Quote from: makebelievebkk on 06 September 2015, 07:09:57 AM
(which of course could fund a 10mm project....nooooooo!   dont even think it!

He's almost ours...or will be very soon  :D...... :d :d :d :d......Another victim falls to the hive mind.  ;)
Resistance IS futile.

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Number of figures per base & spacing
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 06 September 2015, 11:43:09 AM
Quote from: Techno on 06 September 2015, 11:28:20 AM
Resistance IS futile.

No it's USELESS

My poetry is also pretty bad...

IanS  ;)
Title: Re: Number of figures per base & spacing
Post by: Techno on 06 September 2015, 12:24:36 PM
Look !

According to Nobby, I'm the Borg Queen  X_X......Not a s*dding Vogon.  ;)
Cheers - Alice.
Title: Re: Number of figures per base & spacing
Post by: Bloodaxe on 06 September 2015, 04:04:37 PM
Id sell the 28mm on Ebay or Bartertown and buy several 10mm armies.  The Pendraken armies are cheaper, and easier to paint & store then 28mm.  I was a long time player of that other game WarHamster, but got tired of constant price increases, rules changes, power creeps, etc.  Why is it called Warhammer 40K? Because you have to make over 40K to afford to play it.  ;)
Title: Re: Number of figures per base & spacing
Post by: petercooman on 06 September 2015, 06:32:58 PM
Quote from: Bloodaxe on 06 September 2015, 04:04:37 PM
I was a long time player of that other game WarHamster

(https://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic1028278_md.jpg)

(http://36.media.tumblr.com/3168d835e11fa9b96ff58e622d692c1d/tumblr_njkahkkaMt1rv231do1_1280.jpg)

(http://www.johnmsteele.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/AD&D/Settings/GammaWrld/GammaWorld/Warhamster.jpg)

(http://pre05.deviantart.net/f69e/th/pre/i/2014/195/4/4/warhamster_by_rikku2007-d7qp6aw.jpg)
Title: Re: Number of figures per base & spacing
Post by: Bloodaxe on 06 September 2015, 06:42:39 PM
Thats it!!!!
Title: Re: Number of figures per base & spacing
Post by: AndyT on 06 September 2015, 08:32:22 PM
Steve (stenicplus) is running the Berkeley Hordes of the Things competition this weekend which is probably why he hasn't responded to the 28mm questions.

I've been tempted to reuse some old GW figs in a Warband army but 10mm armies are quicker to build.

Cheers, Andy
Title: Re: Number of figures per base & spacing
Post by: makebelievebkk on 07 September 2015, 05:20:53 AM
Great replies guys. Hooks firmly embedded into the skin. Lol

The figs i have are LotR range from gw. I really like them but have used them once or twice in 2 years. I really would like to play lotr but skirmish rules get boring after a while and i dont have enough energy or a dumper truck to roll the amount of dice needed for wotr lol. Hmmmm...

Decisions decisions lol
Title: Re: Number of figures per base & spacing
Post by: Luddite on 07 September 2015, 07:12:57 AM
10 28mm figures will fit nicely onto a 10x5cm base.  Its actually pretty close to Mantic's small units in their Kings of War rules.  If you have about 80-100 figures per side, you're good to go.  :)
Title: Re: Number of figures per base & spacing
Post by: Tawa on 07 September 2015, 06:00:29 PM
Nice work!  :D



Quote from: mad lemmey on 04 September 2015, 06:49:57 PM
And the dummy is my daughter's!


Yeah, yeah.....  ;D
Title: Re: Number of figures per base & spacing
Post by: makebelievebkk on 08 September 2015, 01:33:22 AM
Yep i reckon i can just about stretch to that. It will at least get me started.
I foresee some samurai apes coming my way though lol

Thanks for all the help guys. Now to get basing
Title: Re: Number of figures per base & spacing
Post by: Tawa on 08 September 2015, 01:49:19 PM
Oh please tell me that this is a genuine Munchkin card?  :D



(https://cf.geekdo-images.com/images/pic1028278_md.jpg)