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Title: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: barbarian on 29 August 2015, 03:46:50 PM
I'm considering applying for a job in UK.
The initial advert was 25000£ per year + Health care personal plan.
But they later removed the salary.

How much will fall into pocket per month ? How is the life in UK with a salary around 25 000-30 000£ ?
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: Matt J on 29 August 2015, 04:13:09 PM
depends where the job is, you might struggle in London, anywhere north of Watford gap  :-bd
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: Chad on 29 August 2015, 04:30:22 PM
Your net monthly income after tax and NI would be roughly £1,650. The health plan may or may not be taxable.

Chad
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: Leman on 29 August 2015, 04:39:13 PM
Depends on age, dependents and location. £25,000 is about the starting salary for a young teacher. It's at the bottom of professional salaries, so if you are young and just starting out with only yourself to support it's not too bad if it's the first rung on a career. If the job is located in the south-east, within 50 miles of London you will find accommodation horrifically expensive. The further north you go the cheaper accommodation is, but it's all relative. Flat in the north about £450 pcm; similar flat in London £1600 pcm. Why is healthcare such a big deal? We have the NHS.
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: Techno on 29 August 2015, 04:42:57 PM
Quote from: barbarian on 29 August 2015, 03:46:50 PM
I'm considering applying for a job in UK.

Doing what ?

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: Fenton on 29 August 2015, 05:02:13 PM
In Northern Ireland that would be well above mean average wage. I suspect it would be in Scotland And Wales as well
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: fred. on 29 August 2015, 07:26:49 PM
Be very aware that around London prices for everything are much higher - this applies for much of the South of England too. As noted above you will really notice this for housing costs, but also for most everyday things too.

Once you get away from London things get much more sensible.
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: barbarian on 29 August 2015, 08:49:45 PM
It is in Nottingham.  ;) Graphic design. I think they removed the salary as it was on the low end for the skills involved. I think I'll give it a try.
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: Steve J on 29 August 2015, 08:51:51 PM
It would not go very far here in Bristol. You wouldn't be able to get a mortgage and renting would not get you in a very nice area, generally speaking. As an idea of our broad expenditure a month for a family of 4, we pay:

£150 councill tax
£400 on food and sundries (we don't eat out as it's so bl**dy expensive)
£100 gas and electricity
£50 water rates

Renting would be £600 plus per calendar month minimum, plus a couple of month's deposit and fees to check your credit history etc.

If you commuted by bus add in another £100.

Nottingham is quite cheap but has some very rough areas to avoid. You could search for local letting agents to get an idea of rental costs. The other downside is that it's the centre of the wargames industry in the UK!!!
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: petercooman on 29 August 2015, 09:48:45 PM
Quote from: barbarian on 29 August 2015, 08:49:45 PM
It is in Nottingham.  ;) Graphic design. I think they removed the salary as it was on the low end for the skills involved. I think I'll give it a try.

Don't do it, that salary won't support being so close to so many wargame hq's.

It's a nice company though  ;)
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: Leon on 29 August 2015, 10:13:01 PM
Outside of London it's probably not a bad wage and you could live on it.  It's more than we earn at Pendraken and we just about manage to pay most of the bills each month...  :'(

Prices for houses/rent vary massively across the country.  My friend lives in London with a friend and they pay a combined £1600/month rent on a two bed flat in Finsbury area.  We live up in Middlesbrough and pay £550 for a 4-bed semi-detached house in a nice area on the outskirts of town.  

Nottingham is a nice city with a high number of students.  It used to be the knife crime capital of the UK but that was 10 years ago and it's changed a lot since then.  We went for a management night out there when I was still running pubs and it seemed a friendly enough place.  A quick look online shows houses to rent available from £200 per month (bad part of town!) although this one looks quite interesting if you don't need loads of space: http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-to-rent/property-53682014.html (http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-to-rent/property-53682014.html)  That website (RightMove) is very handy for looking at UK properties, so you could have a look at where the job will be, maybe ask them for recommedations on where to live nearby and then do a search?

Let me know if we can help with anything.
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: Leman on 29 August 2015, 10:17:27 PM
Be awarethat you will be competing with over 30,000 students for accommodation. Avoid the area called St.Anne's.
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: barbarian on 29 August 2015, 11:32:29 PM
Good or bad news is that I would come alone. :-\

I'm writing my letter.
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: FierceKitty on 30 August 2015, 12:25:54 AM
Your life, but I'd NEVER trade Italy for England.
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: Techno on 30 August 2015, 06:38:31 AM
Quote from: barbarian on 29 August 2015, 08:49:45 PM
It is in Nottingham.  ;) Graphic design. I think they removed the salary as it was on the low end for the skills involved. I think I'll give it a try.

Not THEM ? X_X......The speed of their staff 'turnover' is something to be very wary of, Yann.
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: Matt J on 30 August 2015, 07:11:41 AM
QuoteNot THEM ? I don't want to see......The speed of their staff 'turnover' is something to be very wary of, Yann

I think its Mantic Phil, not THEM*

QuoteYour life, but I'd NEVER trade Italy for England

Agree on that one, would love to go the other way (or France), the sh*tty weather here gets you down along with the culture. I was in Italy last week, night out in Pistoia 10.30pm kids out playing in street, old people sitting around talking, families having ice cream. Pistoia about same size as Wolverhampton, would you take your family out for ice cream 10.30pm on a Friday night in Wolverhampton.....






* assuming we mean GW and not the radioactive giant ants
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: Techno on 30 August 2015, 07:25:47 AM
Quote from: Matt of Munslow on 30 August 2015, 07:11:41 AM
I think its Mantic Phil, not THEM*

That's alright then......Go for it !!  :)

I just looked at 'their' vacancies page...."Miniatures Design Manager"..... I ought to apply for that, having done that one before........Knowing full well they'd never have me back.....I'm too old........ and I wouldn't have the slightest intention of taking the job.  ;D ;D ;D
(Well...maybe for a six figure sum and an absolute guarantee of a three year contract.....That'll take me beyond State Pension age..... ;D ;D ;D ;D)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: barbarian on 30 August 2015, 10:10:10 AM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 30 August 2015, 12:25:54 AM
Your life, but I'd NEVER trade Italy for England.

Main problem of Italy : no money and a wife (ex?!) and a child to feed.
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: Techno on 30 August 2015, 11:02:48 AM
Eeek !!

NOT good.
Very best of luck, Yann.

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: Last Hussar on 30 August 2015, 11:46:14 AM
I'm on £24k, with a take home of about £1550pcm - but that may be different for others because I'm in the Civil Service pension scheme, and the deductions affect my tax and NI.

To rent a 2 bed in Nottingham you seem to be looking at £550-£650

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-to-rent/find.html?locationIdentifier=REGION%5E1019&minBedrooms=1&maxBedrooms=2&displayPropertyType=houses&oldDisplayPropertyType=houses&googleAnalyticsChannel=renting (http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-to-rent/find.html?locationIdentifier=REGION%5E1019&minBedrooms=1&maxBedrooms=2&displayPropertyType=houses&oldDisplayPropertyType=houses&googleAnalyticsChannel=renting)

You'll need £100pm council tax, and maybe £150(? wife does the utilities) in gas, electricity water and phone/internet.  I reckon food will be about £150 pppm

£650+100+150 = £900, Plus food, plus transport (work on a car costing £0.50 per mile over the course of a year, plus insurance.  We do about 400-500 miles per month on £50-60- thats down to my wife town driving, and the fact she doesn't care about using diesel!)
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: FierceKitty on 30 August 2015, 12:24:07 PM
Ah. Hostages to fortune do make a difference. I hope I didn't sound insulting.
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: barbarian on 30 August 2015, 12:35:31 PM
You didn't.
I have plans to continue freelancing tough, but was considering living for a bit in the Mecca of the wargaming industry, and even 400-500£ sent back to Italy are worth the try.
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: Orcs on 30 August 2015, 12:36:45 PM
HI Yan

I think L.H'S estimates fairly good.  He does not drive much. I do 1500 miles a month mainly becayse I comute 20 miles each way to work, so its easy to mount up.  Trouble i public transport over here is not a very flexible or cheap way to travel.  

My work comute would take aboutan hour each way assuming I did not have to wait for a bus at the work end.

Cost Train          £8.10
Bus return to work from far end Station  £3.00
Parking at station this end £6.50 a day

Total cost to comute £17.60 a day

Usiing the car costs me about £7 a day in fuel and its 25 minutes door to door.  Thats with a fairly euneconomical car.  So for me the car is a no brainer

Good Luck
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: Steve J on 30 August 2015, 01:44:02 PM
In Nottingham the bus service used to be very good and cheap. They have trams now so not sure how they compare. I used to cycle to work which was pretty easy to do and the traffic wasn't too bad. Quicker than the bus and virtually free, given low annual running costs.
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: Last Hussar on 31 August 2015, 12:31:25 AM
The 50p a mile is based on the civil service expenses rate of about 44p - this is to include wear and tear as well as fuel.
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: barbarian on 31 August 2015, 11:05:59 PM
I re-made my CV. Tried to translate everything, not easy with the Diplomas and the schools name, but...
I followed a plan found on internet.
Someone can give it a read to see if it's okay ? (I'll e-mail it to you)
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 31 August 2015, 11:45:21 PM
Bizarrely FSN is your man, he works in recruiting!
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: Leon on 01 September 2015, 12:00:56 AM
Quote from: barbarian on 31 August 2015, 11:05:59 PM
Someone can give it a read to see if it's okay ? (I'll e-mail it to you)

Feel free to send it through and I'll give it a check.

8)
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: Last Hussar on 01 September 2015, 05:42:23 PM
Bizarrely FSN is all you need to say
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: fsn on 01 September 2015, 06:27:22 PM
Oh yes. Send it through to me.

I'm in that game.
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: Orcs on 01 September 2015, 07:10:12 PM
Quote from: fsn on 01 September 2015, 06:27:22 PM
Oh yes. Send it through to me.

I'm in that game.

I thought you said you were "on the game" to finance your pendraken Gooddies
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: fsn on 01 September 2015, 07:20:16 PM
Well, I have a side line with Miss Whiplash.  :-[
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: barbarian on 01 September 2015, 07:26:01 PM
FSN, can you PM me your email address ?
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: barbarian on 02 September 2015, 12:01:05 PM
Should I post my cover letter here ?  :-\
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: Techno on 02 September 2015, 01:05:01 PM
I wouldn't, Yann...
You'll probably get conflicting advice. (And knowing the forum, a certain amount of silliness.... X_X)

Pop the letter up to Leon, as he's offered.
Alternatively.....I'll send you my e'mail addy and you can send it to me.....
If I can bully her into doing it...Mrs Techno's very good at this sort of thing.

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: Orcs on 02 September 2015, 07:06:26 PM
Quote from: Techno on 02 September 2015, 01:05:01 PM
I wouldn't, Yann...
You'll probably get conflicting advice. (And knowing the forum, a certain amount of silliness.... X_X)

Cheers - Phil

I would hope that the forum would avoid the sillyness for something like this, but I agree you would definitely get conflicting advice.
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: mollinary on 02 September 2015, 08:35:41 PM
Spot on JAFO, on all points.

Mollinary
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: barbarian on 02 September 2015, 08:53:52 PM
And then, if they google my letter, they'll found it here and they'll know I prefer 10mm. ;)
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: Last Hussar on 02 September 2015, 09:37:05 PM
Is it 10mm, or is it just 28mm a long way away?  :-\
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: Ithoriel on 02 September 2015, 09:56:09 PM
Quote from: Last Hussar on 02 September 2015, 09:37:05 PM
Is it 10mm, or is it just 28mm a long way away?  :-\

Do they get "Padre Ted" in Italy? ;)
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: Orcs on 02 September 2015, 11:21:22 PM
Quote from: Last Hussar on 02 September 2015, 09:37:05 PM
Is it 10mm, or is it just 28mm a long way away?  :-\

However i will apply the sillyness when it comes to teasing LH.  :D

Do you use that one on Mrs LH in the bedroom?

"It's not that small . It really is 6" love , your just looking at it from a long way away"   :d :d

P.S Before you say it, I have an excuse for mine looking small - Next Door but One IS a long way away.  ;)
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: barbarian on 03 September 2015, 02:06:53 PM
It is gone.

Let's hope for the best.
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: Techno on 03 September 2015, 03:37:25 PM
Assuming that means you've sent your application....
Best of luck, Matey !
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: Orcs on 03 September 2015, 07:08:54 PM
Good Luck Yann
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: petercooman on 03 September 2015, 08:49:08 PM
Best of luck!
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: Steve J on 04 September 2015, 05:57:42 AM
Best of luck Yann.
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: paulr on 04 September 2015, 06:00:06 AM
Best of luck
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: FierceKitty on 04 September 2015, 10:05:24 AM
Bocca lupo, amico!
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: petercooman on 04 September 2015, 10:33:03 AM
If you manage to get in, say hello to fisty glue man for me  ;D
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: fsn on 04 September 2015, 11:09:45 AM
"Fisty glue man". How in the name of the Dark Lord's favourite green cord trousers does anyone deserve an epithet like that?
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: Matt J on 04 September 2015, 11:28:05 AM
All the best Yann (with everything)
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: petercooman on 04 September 2015, 12:03:41 PM
Quote from: fsn on 04 September 2015, 11:09:45 AM
"Fisty glue man". How in the name of the Dark Lord's favourite green cord trousers does anyone deserve an epithet like that?

Don't you know him?

http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,12438.0.html
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 04 September 2015, 06:13:11 PM
Good luck
Title: Re: How is a 25 000£ per year salary in UK ?
Post by: Tawa on 05 September 2015, 07:34:03 PM
Best of luck mate  :D