Hello first time posting after a long time lurking looking at the pretty pictures! I'm about to take the plunge and do the 1859, 1866 and 1870 wars in 10mm my first army will be the austrians and I was wondering if anybody has information on the nationalities of the Austrian jager battalions, all cavalry regiments and (I know I want it all!) The artillery? I have the osprey books but they don't tell you a great deal in terms of recruitment areas.
Thanks
Welcome Adam, I'm sure one or two of the experts will be along shortly to provide the answers
Others will no doubt provide 'entertainment ' ;)
Welcome from me too, Adam. :-h
As Paul says....Someone should be along soon, to give you some/all of the information you're after !
Cheers - Phil
Hello and welcome.
Mollinary and Cameronian will no doubt furnish you with all the details you need. They are gentlemen of the first order and between them supreme founts of knowledge on this period.
Welcome and have fun.
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Welcome on board. The Bruce Weigle rules are full of info, but I'm not sure if they have the level of detail you're after. I'll try and dig them out later to check.
Welcome aboard; not sure why you need that level of detail. I've happily war-gamed this period for many years now without it and simply use OOBs to put armies together. Are you looking at some sort of semi-fantasy xenophobic rivalry between the various groups that made up the empire. I know it took me about 40 years to work out that Ruthenians were sort of Ukrainians living within the empire.
Thanks everyone for the warm welcome!
@fsn your welcome! I think?!
@Steve j thanks I keep meaning to buy that set of books.
@leman no nothing like that it's just I found all the information for austro-hungarian army at the outbreak of ww1 and wondered if it was available for 1858/66 campaigns. I hope to be be able to represent every regiment and battery if I stick at this project!
FYI Adam, Bruce will be at Colours this year putting on an 1871 game. Well worth a visit if you are able too and you can pick up the books at the show as well.
http://www.austro-hungarian-army.co.uk/oob.htm
This should get you started, contents include the OOBs, also if you scroll further down you'll find the recruiting areas for the line infantry; some units eg Jaegers were of mixed ethnicity, no data on this site about Jaegers or cavalry. From memory the cuirassiers were 'German' and the Hussars were Hungarian, not sure about the others so I would need to check and get back to you but its a fair bet that some of the lancers were Poles!
Happy to help a fellow 1859/1866 enthusiast. Look here:
https://ia801406.us.archive.org/26/items/sterreichskmpfe05austgoog/sterreichskmpfe05austgoog.pdf
Jaeger and cavalry regiment recruiting areas are given on the 250th to 252nd of 308 pages of the pdf.
Chris
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@ Chris Pringle that is perfect exactly what I was looking for! Cheers!
@cameronian yeah I have found that site i was going to use it if I couldn't find the relevant information for 1859/66. It would have only been 48 years out of date!
You're welcome. Or "szivesen", as most of your KuK hussars would probably say.
Though like Leman, I'm not sure why you want to know where each individual regiment or battery is recruited from. Unless it be so you can berate them appropriately during games? "Stand and fight, you wretched Serbs/Romanians/Sub-Carpathian Ruthenians ..."
Chris
To be honest I think I may have a slight obsessive compulsive disorder, once I found the information about the line regiments I had to find the information about the rest of the army or I couldn't start the period! Surely I won't have to berate my multi ethnic Army into charging repeatedly at chassepot & needle rifles!
Hi Adam, the site I thought I referenced has OOBs and recruiting areas relevant to 1866, did I post the wrong link ?
Quote from: cameronian on 24 July 2015, 02:38:10 PM
Hi Adam, the site I thought I referenced has OOBs and recruiting areas relevant to 1866, did I post the wrong link ?
Hi Cam,
Your link works fine, and has both the OOBs, and the origins for the line infantry regiments, for 1866 taken from the same source Chris Pringle has found on line. Ie Osterreich's Kampf, the Austrian official history. Unfortunately your link does not include the next Three or four pages which are in Chris's link which give the origins of the cavalry and Jagers. The vast majority of this stuff is also on Ralph Weaver's CD available from the Continental War's Society containing about their first sixty back numbers. Stuart Sutherland was serialising a mass of info on the Austrian Army (sadly incomplete on the Hussars and Uhlans) but in an English translation which is a bit more user friendly than the original. If I am not mistaken, the piece that Adam really needs from the OK lists is the province. Still congrats to both you and Chris on beating me to it!
Mollinary
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Quote from: Adam west on 24 July 2015, 01:08:10 PM
To be honest I think I may have a slight obsessive compulsive disorder, once I found the information about the line regiments I had to find the information about the rest of the army or I couldn't start the period! Surely I won't have to berate my multi ethnic Army into charging repeatedly at chassepot & needle rifles!
That makes perfect sense to me ;) and I suspect a significant number of people here ;D
I think it's time we were getting back to the home now.
>>Happy to help a fellow 1859/1866 enthusiast. Look here:
>>https://ia801406.us.archive.org/26/items/sterreichskmpfe05austgoog/sterreichskmpfe05austgoog.pdf
>>Jaeger and cavalry regiment recruiting areas are given on the 250th to 252nd of 308 pages of the pdf.
Excellent link Chris. Another book saved into the ever growing heap...
If you (or anyone) is interested, I've put together a large Excel spreadsheet showing the lineage of all
Austro-Hungarian Regiments (1550 to 1914) using Wrede and the online Schematismus. Just PM me.
Cheers,
Phil
Hi Phil
Yeah I would be very interested in that I have sent you a message. That's the trouble with me and historical miniatures I spend more time researching them then I do painting them!
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