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Title: Removing integral bases
Post by: leigen_zero on 21 July 2015, 09:27:41 AM
Hi there, first post on the forum (lurked on and off for a while though), but I thought I'd ask around here for some advice from all the seasoned 10mm modelers.

A while back I bought a bunch of the ratmen miniatures for a hordes of the things army.  These all come with what appears to be a cast-on base that's between 1-1.5mm thick on the bottom.

Combined with the 2mm thickness of mdf that I'm using for the bases it adds a significant amount of height to the minis, I don't want the bases to look ridiculously chunky, so I'm wondering how you guys remove the excess material from the bottoms? (note, I don't have access to any power tools)

I guess I could sit there with a file and a razor saw, but I might end up going insane towards the end.

Thanks
Title: Re: Removing integral bases
Post by: toxicpixie on 21 July 2015, 09:39:23 AM
Belt sander maybe, if you have access - otherwise perhaps a careful Dremel? Hand filing the base is likely to be a very long winded job...
Title: Re: Removing integral bases
Post by: Subedai on 21 July 2015, 09:40:45 AM
Wotcha from Kent and welcome to the forum!

I suppose you could get what used to be called an eight inch bastard file, secure it to a workbench or similar and file the bases as well as the tops of your fingers off or...I fear insanaity beckons unless you can beg, borrow or steal a power sander or better yet a variable speed Dremel.

Where are you by the way?

Bu**er, tp got in first but I'm not changing anything.
Title: Re: Removing integral bases
Post by: Wulf on 21 July 2015, 10:02:48 AM
I had this issue with some little miniature ships - as I was using wooden bases, I dremelled troughs in the bases instead!
Title: Re: Removing integral bases
Post by: FierceKitty on 21 July 2015, 10:17:51 AM
That's thinking. :)
Title: Re: Removing integral bases
Post by: toxicpixie on 21 July 2015, 10:36:31 AM
Now that's an idea! Careful with the MDF "fumes" though, you don't want to be breathing that in...
Title: Re: Removing integral bases
Post by: Matt J on 21 July 2015, 10:57:17 AM
glue them to the base and build up the sand and flock. I never file any bases
Title: Re: Removing integral bases
Post by: Subedai on 21 July 2015, 11:25:38 AM
Another option springs to mind, a variation of what Wulf said.

Using cereal packet card, mark around and then cut out the shape of the base. Glue the cereal card to 2mm -as opposed to 3mm- pre cut MDF bases, glue figures into holes and disguise the base that way. I can't really take the credit, Bob O'Brien used it on his Airfix Huns back in the early 70's.

...or...

go with Matt's idea, even simpler.
Title: Re: Removing integral bases
Post by: leigen_zero on 21 July 2015, 02:46:20 PM
@Subedai - I'm from South Wales.

Thanks for the ideas guys, I think I'm going to experiment with putting holes partway into the MDF and fixing the minis into those after painting, then disguising the gaps with filler and basing materials. I originally thought about just building up the bases with filler, but it always ends up looking like my minis are carrying a portable hillock wherever they go (done well it wouldn't look like that, but I can't pull it off lol).

Once I get something done I'll upload the results so you can all see how it turned out
Title: Re: Removing integral bases
Post by: FierceKitty on 21 July 2015, 03:02:50 PM
Airfix Huns? What did they start life as?
Title: Re: Removing integral bases
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 21 July 2015, 03:44:35 PM
Huns - almost certainly Red Indians (I know not PC....)

But more bloody Welshmen - ohhh know  :( :(

Welcome

IanS
Title: Re: Removing integral bases
Post by: Norm on 21 July 2015, 03:57:11 PM
I would use artist board, its just over 1 mm thick,. mount rats on that and then use texture paste to build the whole base up - it should blend in OK with the 2mm bases.
Title: Re: Removing integral bases
Post by: Subedai on 21 July 2015, 04:11:03 PM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 21 July 2015, 03:02:50 PM
Airfix Huns? What did they start life as?

Everybody's favourite convertible Airfix cavalry...the ACW sets. I remember going to a Present Arms in Southend in 197? and seeing them. His (Bob O'Brien, that is) standards looked really good so I had a closer look -he was using printed football club logo's! Manchester City is the only one I remember for definite. Nice man who always had time for a chat about how he did things. He was one of the original WRG Triumvirate and wrote a number of conversion articles for Airfix Mag.
Title: Re: Removing integral bases
Post by: fsn on 21 July 2015, 05:32:07 PM
Welcome Mr Zero.

Title: Re: Removing integral bases
Post by: Techno on 21 July 2015, 05:35:28 PM
Welcome from me, too, LZ.  :-h
(From SW Wales.)
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Removing integral bases
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 21 July 2015, 05:38:08 PM
Hello and welcome
Title: Re: Removing integral bases
Post by: Tawa on 21 July 2015, 05:54:46 PM
Never tried so I'm afraid I can't be much help there.

This however, is beyond true. MDF dust is f*****g awful, even with a mask on so be extra careful with that. :)

Quote from: toxicpixie on 21 July 2015, 10:36:31 AM
Now that's an idea! Careful with the MDF "fumes" though, you don't want to be breathing that in...
Title: Re: Removing integral bases
Post by: Norm on 21 July 2015, 09:25:55 PM
I think you may have misjudged your audience!
Title: Re: Removing integral bases
Post by: Techno on 22 July 2015, 06:03:06 AM
What are you trying to say, Norm ?  :D
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Removing integral bases
Post by: NTM on 22 July 2015, 12:05:51 PM
I have a couple of Sandvik sand plates. They are metal with self adhesive backing designed to attach to a specific holder but can just go on the work bench (or a small sheet of ply) and then a fairly simple task to file the bases down a bit.
Title: Re: Removing integral bases
Post by: Leon on 23 July 2015, 10:21:54 PM
Hi Leigen_Zero, welcome to the Forum!

8)
Title: Re: Removing integral bases
Post by: Heedless Horseman on 10 August 2015, 12:57:41 AM
OK, different period/subject, but I find cutting a trench into MDF bases makes the old PD Napoleonic Peninsula figs, (about 11mm), look great with newer figures. (|Love those old Brit sculpts!).
Title: Re: Removing integral bases
Post by: DanJ on 04 September 2015, 12:16:03 PM
Hi,  I have a thing about thick bases, especially for 10mm models, 2mm mdf seems out of scale for the figures.

I use thin steel bases, I think they're only about 0.5mm thick and have the added advantages of adding a bit more weight to a unit and sticking to the magnetic sheeting I use to line storage boxes.

Here are some Pendraken Templars facing some Pendraken Saracens based on stell bases.

(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa242/danandsan/IMG_6217.jpg) (http://s198.photobucket.com/user/danandsan/media/IMG_6217.jpg.html)

If you want to file down figure bases then the best thing is a belt sander, everything else takes toooo long, but mind your finger tips  :D