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Title: Rules for the Late 17th Century...
Post by: streetgang on 24 June 2015, 07:03:25 PM
I started painting my first unit from Pendraken's League of Augsburg (LOA) range: Oxford's Blues. I want to game Sedgemoor, Killiekrankie and maybe a portion of the Boyne. What rules are out there for this? I'm not a big DBx fan, Black Powder seems to vanilla. I know of Beneath the Lilly Banners (or is it Under the Lilly Banners?) and own them but they seem for a bigger game. I enjoy Maurice but I don't think it really translates to the late 17th century. I prefer easy to learn/play rules I can finish in 2-3 hours. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Rules for the Late 17th Century...
Post by: Steve J on 24 June 2015, 07:15:49 PM
Well maybe the Pike & Shotte rules might be worth a look. BP basically but for the P&S period. Had a few quick games to try the rules and they seem fine to me, but like many rules not to everyones taste.
Title: Re: Rules for the Late 17th Century...
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 24 June 2015, 08:57:38 PM
FogR is the rule set I'm building for in this period,or BP with tweaks...
Title: Re: Rules for the Late 17th Century...
Post by: Sandinista on 24 June 2015, 09:26:43 PM
I play Pike & Shotte works well and is fun

Cheers
Ian
Title: Re: Rules for the Late 17th Century...
Post by: clibinarium on 24 June 2015, 09:31:25 PM
I hear BLB works ok for a few battalions a side, but is designed with larger actions in mind. Barry Hilton is working on a set that is sort of mid way between skirmishes and full battles, for actions with a handful of battalions a side, but larger units. I think the basing system is the same for BLB so you can use the same forces. Its WIP name is "Karoliner", and its going to be published quite soon I think. Might be closer to what you need.

Disclaimer; I haven't played either set, so can't comment on qualuty, and Barry is a sculpting client of mine. Just so that's clear  ;)
Title: Re: Rules for the Late 17th Century...
Post by: toxicpixie on 24 June 2015, 10:09:09 PM
The Impetus variants might work nicely - we've tried Baroque which is ECW/30YW and it's good, but all the download links for the La Roi du Soleil variant for end of the century appear dead so can't say how good it is in practice...

Pike & Shotte are fun but are very much a tool box and you need to tweak for period flavour...
Title: Re: Rules for the Late 17th Century...
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 25 June 2015, 12:52:56 AM
Quote from: toxicpixie on 24 June 2015, 10:09:09 PM
The Impetus variants might work nicely - we've tried Baroque which is ECW/30YW and it's good, but all the download links for the La Roi du Soleil variant for end of the century appear dead so can't say how good it is in practice...

Pike & Shotte are fun but are very much a tool box and you need to tweak for period flavour...

Hi TP

New link for Le Roi Soleil is at http://www.library.vexillia.com/leroisol/Le%20Roi%20Soleil%20Deluxe.pdf (http://www.library.vexillia.com/leroisol/Le%20Roi%20Soleil%20Deluxe.pdf). Vexillia changed their website from .ltd.uk to .com. All the army lists, etc have the new website address.

You could also have a look at Modifying the Perfect Captains Very Civile Actions for a later period for a medium sized game.

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan
Title: Re: Rules for the Late 17th Century...
Post by: FierceKitty on 25 June 2015, 03:33:18 AM
How does one "vanilla", I wonder?
Title: Re: Rules for the Late 17th Century...
Post by: toxicpixie on 25 June 2015, 07:45:12 AM
Thanks Grumpyoldman!
Title: Re: Rules for the Late 17th Century...
Post by: Ithoriel on 25 June 2015, 12:10:49 PM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 25 June 2015, 03:33:18 AM
How does one "vanilla", I wonder?

To Vanilla: to look, sound or dance like Vanilla Ice. [a derogatory term] :P
Title: Re: Rules for the Late 17th Century...
Post by: FierceKitty on 25 June 2015, 12:14:12 PM
Ooh, a killing insult, I surmise.
Title: Re: Rules for the Late 17th Century...
Post by: toxicpixie on 25 June 2015, 12:22:51 PM
He's serious business, man.



Although when someone yells "Stop!" I never know if it's in the name of love, I should collaborate and listen, or if it's Hammertime...
Title: Re: Rules for the Late 17th Century...
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 25 June 2015, 01:36:32 PM
Vanilla is the finest of the flavours!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxVWy-NslpI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxVWy-NslpI)
Title: Re: Rules for the Late 17th Century...
Post by: toxicpixie on 25 June 2015, 02:12:45 PM
Thanks, I'll be humming that all blinkin' day :D
Title: Re: Rules for the Late 17th Century...
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 25 June 2015, 02:19:03 PM
My pleasure!  ;)
Title: Re: Rules for the Late 17th Century...
Post by: Techno on 25 June 2015, 04:23:06 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 25 June 2015, 01:36:32 PM
Vanilla is the finest of the flavours!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxVWy-NslpI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxVWy-NslpI)

Some modern 'beat combo' who I've never heard anything by.......I presume. :P
Never heard that before.....Was it popliar (sic) ?

I'll stick to my old dinosaurs.......Thank you, so very much !  ;D ;D ;D

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Rules for the Late 17th Century...
Post by: toxicpixie on 25 June 2015, 05:17:21 PM
It's pretty much prehistoric at nearly twenty...
Title: Re: Rules for the Late 17th Century...
Post by: Techno on 25 June 2015, 06:05:28 PM
That's MODERN !  ;)

I'm still stuck in the late sixties to early eighties.......And loving it !

Cheers - An old F*rt.