The WW2 wish list was a really good discussion and threw up a lot of useful links - and hopefully stimulated the design/casting process.
It also strayed a little into post war...what with Centurions with 105mm and T55s etc.
So ....here goes with a thread for a post war/modern wish list. I have couched it as primaraly post war, because the periodization could run unchecked
for 50 years...a reality check of what will have prime demand amongst gamers will focus on the 1950s- late 1970 (say up to the Yom Kippur War)
and all those bush wars in between. This would allow Pendraken to build on the Indo China/Vietnam ranges with items such as the T55, PT-65,
M41 and M48...
then perhaps add a few common items like the British Ferret and French AMX13 and Panhard AML-90...
Anyway...that's the thread open and the tracer laid....blaze away boys. What do you wish for ?
Quote from: Sunray on 23 August 2010, 02:41:02 PM
..... What do you wish for ?
Umm, everything?
More seriously, off the top of my head:
Centurion, 20-pdr, both with & without side-skirts.
Centurion, 105mm.
M48A3 (for USMC in Vietnam)
M41
T54/55/62
And that's just the
must havetanks, IMO.
Then you get onto APC's and armoured cars - Saracen & Saladin, probably other British stuff I can't think of. You've already got the M113 - any other US stuff?. And you'll also need whatever the Soviets used (BMP? BTR?)
Cheers, Martyn
Cold War stuff ........ 1970 to late 1980's. USSR vs UK, or East German vs West German, or USSR vs USA, or Iran vs Iraq ...............
Thnking about it a bit more (sorry for the rambling reply earlier), finish the existing post-war range first - Vietnam.
So, 20-pdr Centurions for the Aussies, M41 and M48A3 for the US, PT76 and T-54 for the NVA, plus any other lighter vehicles, towed guns and infantry that are needed to fill out the range.
Then I'd like a range for the 50's and 60's - so 105mm Centurions, M48's, T-55 and T-62 etc.
Cheers, Martyn
Ok, so far we have been wishing kit. What about figures ? What is key wish list for troop types ?
The massively obvious gap in 10mm is Brits with SLRs & Gimpies...and Bergens. Oh - and their Argie oppos of course ;D
Stretches the "end-date" to '82 as well.
yes, but please tell the designer that on "contact" the first thing you get rid off ...is the Bergen. In the killing zone, troops wisely shed kit. So by all means have 'soldier, beret etc, SLR, bergen, yomping' in classic Falklands pose, but for action poses, get down to basic 58 web.
Matchbox did a 'soft plastic' box of 1/76 'Falkland 'paras in the late 1980s and they were very well crafted indeed.
Yep - good point to differentiate between these...I still want some yomping though:
(http://www.secondtononemodels.com/userimages/falklands-yomp-bbc.jpg)
8)
I would say having just noticed how expensive minifigs have become Pendraken should do a full 20th range! But especially the Soviet stuff as its usefull for lots of other armies.
I would be interested in the Nam range to see a Huey destroyed in the ground. Could be interested for scenario games, scenography and static modellesim.
Also could be easy (I think to do), just get a huey figure, break its tail, battle damage it, and all this sort of things that happens when crush down. Then take a mould... and you know the rest :)
Infantry for the middle east please,plus all the other bits on the list.
Quote from: nikharwood on 23 August 2010, 09:17:36 PM
Yep - good point to differentiate between these...I still want some yomping though:
(http://www.secondtononemodels.com/userimages/falklands-yomp-bbc.jpg)
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Totally agree Nik, the image and model of a '45 marine' yomping is the lasting icon of the Falklands war. The other mistake modellers make is to produce Agries who look like 'Michilin men' - not all troops had the padded winter clothing. The majority were in temperate combats.
As as cropped up on the threads befoe - icons apart - it is better to design the generic types, like Gripping Beast Falklands British who can be used any time from 1960 to late 1980s. this also appies to WARSAW pACK types
Anyway. A heavy parcel arrived from Leon today, so I will be QRT for a while...Sunray Out.
ARVN to complete the nam range... Currently working on new armies for Charlie don't surf and I don't think that ARVN are available in 10mm...
Don't know if there would be many others interested, but an African Wars range would rock. Rhodesians ( RLI, SAS, Selous Scouts, RAR etc), African militias, Mercs, South Africans...
Quote from: mike40k on 25 August 2010, 08:37:20 PM
Don't know if there would be many others interested, but an African Wars range would rock. Rhodesians ( RLI, SAS, Selous Scouts, RAR etc), African militias, Mercs, South Africans...
Absolutely old boy ! As as been hinted in a couple of threads, the lateral approach might be 'generic types' much similar to the very sucessful 15mm RANGE styled "AK47". The trooper comes in 'bushhat, AK47,' OR 'beret, SLR' and you apply the relevant paint job. And yes - you are not alone. A growing band of 'bush war gamers' in the Pendraken forum.
Aircraft - does anyone wish for small trainer/COIN types . We don't need hight performance dog fighters, but rather something that can straff and drop a few bombs. Small jets like ....Mig 17, Jet Provost/Strikemaster, Lockeed T33 Shooting Star and Folland Gnat. Is this anyones wish list
Oh, and before I forget, ground mounted 106mm Recoilless Rifles- I had to buy the Ontos and mount the guns on stands. No self respecting bush war army can fight without its 106RCL artillery ! Keep them coming
I'd be most interested in seeing things that do not overlap what is already available in plastic or through Mfigs. I would love to see a modern Africa range! I would definitely spend my hard earned cash on modern PLA forces as well - Infantry, Type 99 (or earlier), WZ-551, BMP Copy, Jeeps, Trucks, etc. Would be very interested for sure in PLA...did I mention I would be interested in PLA? I could also do with some PLA forces...
VN riverine monitors.
see new thread on naval units - yes a Monitor - event a barracks ship would go well.
Oh yes, barrack ship too.
Quote from: greatpatton on 24 August 2010, 02:57:54 PM
ARVN to complete the nam range... Currently working on new armies for Charlie don't surf and I don't think that ARVN are available in 10mm...
Someone suggested to me that the WWII US Marines could be used for ARVN.
I don't know enough to say if that's true or not.
Put me down for PLA(plus any Chinese army you do) :P
Paul
Brisbane/Qld/Oz
PLA would be very nice.
So, to recap, we have
1. Falklands era - British and Argentine. Brits in beret and helmets....mostly in just '58 light order, but at least one with Bergus Roc and yomping
The Brits could serve in most wars from 1967 to late 1980s
2. Cuban style troops with AK47- bit like Peter Pig Hardened militia
3. 106mm RCL
4. ARVN Types
5. PLA
6. some more Vietnam ships
7. AFVs....help me here guys !
AFV - that way lies maddness - 2000+ and counting.......
IanS
I use the French Para Inf as Arven, as for moderns wish list I would like to see the IndoChina/Vietnam ranged finished of mainly with vehicles and guns such as an Australian Centurian without side skirts, a Pack 105 with Australian gun crew and landrovers. An NVA PT76. An American M48, Commando A/C and a Mutt jeep.
Quote from: Doug on 08 September 2010, 07:11:47 AM
I use the French Para Inf as Arven, as for moderns wish list I would like to see the IndoChina/Vietnam ranged finished of mainly with vehicles and guns such as an Australian Centurian without side skirts, a Pack 105 with Australian gun crew and landrovers. An NVA PT76. An American M48, Commando A/C and a Mutt jeep.
I second those requests ...add a Ferret pehaps !
Quote from: Sunray on 08 September 2010, 06:38:06 PM
I second those requests ...add a Ferret pehaps !
also a whippet and a guy with a flat cap ;)
I've already thrown my two bob's worth in the ring with regard to Argies & Brits, but would like to second the motion of generic type figures that could be used in a wide range of conflicts e.g. African Bush Wars.
yes - 1970s generic bush wars - the British in 58 web FN/SLR and e beret, Cuban types with AK47,
But Doug made a very good point - finish the Vietnam range first.
Quote from: Sandinista on 08 September 2010, 07:45:12 PM
also a whippet and a guy with a flat cap ;)
Quite a pun- but not as good as 'resistance is feudal' - On the subject of AVF names, there is a good PhD out there on the national trends that have emerged since tanks and armoured cars appeared.
The Germans have gone for big cats, the Brits initially for girls names and then...anything butch starting with a "C", the Yanks for Generals ...
but hey...keep the puns coming
Stuff for Cold War (Abrams, Bradley, T-72, BMP and infantry).
As with the boats thread, I'll keep an eye on everything mentioned and see what comes up.
Necrothreadomancy:
Blackhawks
Chinooks
Apache gunships
Quote from: Paint it Pink on 26 February 2011, 12:31:17 PM
Necrothreadomancy:
Blackhawks
Chinooks
Apache gunships
You know your votes only count once right!? :D
Generic infantry in various poses with a generic bullpup rifle in Helmet, Beret and Bush hat. Could in turn be used as Modern British, Modern French, Modern Australian/Irish, Modern Chinese and Modern Israeli, who all use a bullpup rifle as stanard weapon.
Jeff
An odd little vehicle that I would like for a fairly odd reason:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pansarbandvagn_301
I am thinking of an alt-history mid-to-late Czech army, and their own APC would be kind of neat.
Not that I expect many votes, but I might as well ask...
Popped in to see the gents at Timecast yesterday:
They would like:
T64
BMP
Chieftain
Challenger I
And lots of Soviet infantry...
So, on behalf of Timecast...
MORE TANKSplease. :D
Despite Mr Lemmey's rudeness about the Centurion, I will support the sentiment.
Soviet infantry would be particularly useful.
Not being rude about Centurians,
Just Chieftains are bettered!
Bettered or battered?
Bothered?
Very....
IanS
Have a go at the real Czech AFVs!
What - T34/85, T55, T72 ?
IanS
Been a long time since Skoda built a tank - unless you count the Octavia....
Quote from: ianrs54 on 31 October 2014, 07:32:41 AM
What - T34/85, T55, T72 ?
IanS
Hussite battle-waggons. Far ahead of the competition.
APCs and IFVs for me, e.g.:
M-114A1E1
M-113 with TOW missile launcher - just need the launcher sculpted, and a hole drilled into the existing M-113 (I can do that, if needed)
M-901 (late-TOW M-113 variant)
BMP-1
BTR-60PB
Marder 1
HS-30 with 20mm
Spz Kurz with 20mm
FV-432 APC, and mortar variant, plus the FV-438 Swingfire
M-151 Mutt jeep
Munga jeep
BRDM-2 scoutcar
Various tanks too:
M41
M47
T-62
T-64
T-72
Leopard 1 and follow-on variants with bolt-on turret armor
Jagdpanzer Kanone
Jagdpanzer Rakete with SS-11, and/or HOT, or TOW
Luchs 8 x8 armored car
Chieftian V
Centurion - not sure which marks, but surely the 105mm for the Danes, Swiss, British (probably an earlier variant too, with a 90mm? gun, or so)
Obviously, Cold War era troops too, including prone figures for troops on the defensive.
Nice list Mako. :-bd
Quote from: Mako on 30 December 2014, 08:34:52 AM
Centurion - not sure which marks, but surely the 105mm for the Danes, Swiss, British (probably an earlier variant too, with a 90mm? gun, or so)
The Centurion III had a 20 pounder which was an 84mm gun.
Centurion III - NO SUCH thing - it's Centurion 3. Most converted to Mk 5, which is the major build model. 2nd Major build is the Mk 7, with a longer hull for more fuel. As far as I can see the last build was a Mk 8, still with 20 pdr.
All 20pdr tanks could, and probably were up-gunned with the L7 during the 60's, becoming /2, many were up-armoured - these are /1. If both were done then the Mark was changed, I'm not going to try and explain that...
IanS
Inf with SLR's, Stirling SMG, GPMG, weapons teams in bush hats. - would cover all sorts of things.
Thanks Mike
The Danish had 105mm armed and 20pdr armed Centurions operating with Leopard 1 (which is coming soon the first basic type no added Armour)
You had me at "Centurion". >:<
With custard! :-*
Quote from: mart678 on 07 March 2015, 09:32:59 PM
The Danish had 105mm armed and 20pdr armed Centurions operating with Leopard 1 (which is coming soon the first basic type no added Armour)
And the Swedes had 105 mm armed Centurions, alongside the Strv 103 (or S-Tank), so we'll be needing some of these as well, I think . . .
Oh, and a Pbv 302. And probably some others.
Cheers, Martyn
Oh, and I still want an M40 155 mm GMC for my 50's B-movie sci-fi thing . . .
Think the Brits used them as well, so others may find it useful . . . ;)
Cheers, Martyn
The Artillery will be last as unless you play "Flames of War" where the insist that your guns with a range of about 7 miles sit on table never managed to get any artillery on table when we used WRG back in the Stone Age of Wargaming ;D ;D ;D
Also will be putting a picture on later of a master just for FSN :D :D :D :D
B)
I stand agog.
Modern civvies, civvie vehicles, and urban terrain.
I'm going for Centurion Bridge Layer. 8->
FSN - SHUTUP......
Lets get important stuff like lycanthopes and Aztecs done first ;D ;D
IanS
Quote from: ianrs54 on 08 March 2015, 12:38:07 PM
Lets get important stuff like lycanthopes and Aztecs done first ;D ;D
Not under the banner of "Modern" - surely? :P
Centurion bridgelayer - as used in Viet Nam
(http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo349/bartokwhite/Centurion/s_hill_1.jpg)
Quote from: fsn on 08 March 2015, 12:45:29 PM
Not under the banner of "Modern" - surely? :P
Centurion bridgelayer - as used in Viet Nam
(http://i390.photobucket.com/albums/oo349/bartokwhite/Centurion/s_hill_1.jpg)
IE 40+ tears ago.
IanS
At my age, that's modern.
I was only just born then!
Anything past 1945 is "modern" - surely?
If not, when does "modern" begin, and what do you call the period between WWII and "modern"?
You asked! :P
Modern history, also referred to as the modern period or the modern era, is the historiographical approach to the timeframe after the post-classical era (known as the Middle Ages). Modern history can be further broken down into the early modern period and the late modern period after the French Revolution and the Industrial Revolution. Contemporary history is the span of historic events that are immediately relevant to the present time. The modern era began approximately in the 16th century.
Why thank you, Lemmey.
I'm gonna stick with "Post war" then.
Which war? ;D
Quote from: fsn on 08 March 2015, 05:57:24 PM
Anything past 1945 is "modern" - surely?
If not, when does "modern" begin, and what do you call the period between WWII and "modern"?
I plumped for "Late 20th Century" for the period 1950 to 1999.
Right! Fine! OK!
Back to "Brmm Brmm, Bang Bang"!
If it works, why fix it? *
*Because it's probably a Centurion that has been shoddily maintained and needs to be fixed!
Dr Mr Mart678
Umm ... how are you today? Good? I've been a bit not well. Bit of a tummy upset and a small headache. And I may not have a job on Monday.
So, I was just wondering if you had that picture yet? Just to give me a bit of a cheer up.
Good luck with the job FSN...
Best of luck, Nobby....Fingers crossed for you, Matey !!
Hope you feel better soon.
Cheers - Phil
Shhhh! I'm not really ill, I just want Mart to put the photo up. Get his sympathy.
I am possibly redundant from Monday though.
So won't be able to buy any Pendraken goodies.
Just look.
At the photo.
That isn't there.
FSN - out of adversity comes opportunity :)
Best of luck on the job front FSN
Quote from: fsn on 11 March 2015, 08:17:45 PM
Shhhh! I'm not really ill, I just want Mart to put the photo up. Get his sympathy.
I am possibly redundant from Monday though.
So won't be able to buy any Pendraken goodies.
Just look.
At the photo.
That isn't there.
Been there more than once. Got to keep believing in yourself, mate. All the best. :)
Yeah good luck from me too Nobby ;)
Thank you for your good wishes Gentlemen.
I shall let you know what happens.
Do you think Leon would take money in advance? :-\
Just for you FSN :D :D :D :D :D
And :D :D :D :D
Also :D :D :D :D :D
Hope everything goes ok for you Mr Nobbs
Phwoar!
ok that's a bit good
WanotonewantonewanttwowantthreemaybethreeistoomanybutdefinitewanttwoandwantthemNOW!
^:)^
Actually, This has also decided me on my new project. :D
That'll keep Nobby happy ! :)
Great stuff, Mart !
Cheers - Phil
Wow, they're going to be a whole heap of metal. Could be second-mortgage time....
Course the Cent Bridge is class 60, and the Conqueror class 70, cerrrrrrack, splash.
IanS - being pedantic. ;)
Just for ianrs54
The No. 6 tank bridge was constructed of Aluminium alloy and could carry a load of 80 tons over a gap of 13.5 metres. Two of these vehicles saw service in South Vietnam.
:D :D
Even I would not risk the loss of my Conqueror master by putting it on a bridge that would not take its wieight
Also no one has mentioned the list of vehicles in the back of my pictures slipping :D :D :D
Quote from: mart678 on 13 March 2015, 12:29:14 PM
Also no one has mentioned the list of vehicles in the back of my pictures slipping :D :D :D
The only one I can see is a Leo I
IanS
There are others post on different topic lists :D
M26
M41
M47
M60 A3
M551
AMX30
either some nice modern tanks underway or you have made a mistake on route finder :D
Normally addressed to idle Welshmen - but WORK FASTER !!!!!
IanS 8)
Which one ?
Martin, or myself ? :P ;)
Cheers - Phil
All of em, after all they are all idle and hide in holes in the ground.
IanS :D
European civilians w/ Soviet arms.
Thinking Hungarian revolt of 1956, neglected
but worthy of attention.
You already make T-54's right?
Think WW2 Russians would be OK for the opposition.
Hypothetical cold war scenarios also.
In 56 Hungarians mostly had ex-German rifles.
IanS
Quote from: Lurch on 21 September 2015, 06:20:12 PM
European civilians w/ Soviet arms.
Thinking Hungarian revolt of 1956, neglected
but worthy of attention.
You already make T-54's right?
Think WW2 Russians would be OK for the opposition.
Hypothetical cold war scenarios also.
......And as that was your first post, Lurch.
A very warm welcome to the forum ! :-h
Cheers - Phil
Welcome Lurch.
I'm liking the way you think. Perhaps with German weapons they could be Werewolves / Volksturm?
Quote from: Lurch on 21 September 2015, 06:20:12 PM
European civilians w/ Soviet arms.
Thinking Hungarian revolt of 1956, neglected
but worthy of attention.
You already make T-54's right?
Think WW2 Russians would be OK for the opposition.
Hypothetical cold war scenarios also.
Hi Lurch - welcome to the forum.
The series
War in Peace covered the Hungarian uprising - the article suggests a mostly urban conflict and lots of subterfuge deployed by the Hungarians that can be replicated with dice - like dropping live tram wires on tanks, drenching cobbles in oil to rob the tracks of traction, using dinner plates upside down and covered with hessian to look like mines, and a use of the sewers to get around the Soviets.
I see the old T34/85 in a lot of the images as well as T-54s. The Soviets seem to have kept to their tanks/APCs and roamed the streets buttoned up.
In terms of the Hungarians - DAK in caps, British Commandos in berets, SCW officer types and AVBCW civilians all in mufti.
The only major outlay would be a Budapest style street structure - you could go N gauge card and a few low profile if you don't need such a set for WW2 games.
Hello Sunray et al
Quote from: Sunray on 22 September 2015, 09:21:01 PM
In terms of the Hungarians - DAK in caps, British Commandos in berets, SCW officer types and AVBCW civilians all in mufti.
Quick thoughts on other figures:-
SCW - SCW10 Bare headed Miliciano, running, civilian suit and Guardia de Asalto (student/worker peaked cap). Militia - Columna Durruti as well. Also some of the Carlist Requetes, wearing mono or trousers..
Colonial - Boers
without the upturned slouch brim. They can be used for trilby and fedora wearing types.
Not sure if the below pic shows a bowler hat but you could use the Boer officer:-
(http://www.movingimagearchivenews.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Hungarian-Revolution-19562.jpg)(https://web.archive.org/web/20040826044322fw_/http://koti.welho.com/ctenwold/10mmworld/figures/pendraken/colonials/BWboerofficer_a.JPG)
These could all be recycled for East Germany 1953 :D, waste not want not, maybe even Czechoslovakia 1968 (probably stretching it).
Cheers
GrumpyOldMan
Great images Vic. The neat thing about 10mm is they are large enough to detail, but still small enough to hide detail with a little filing and a good paint job.
There is a haunting image of a Hungarian insurgent with a fendora style hat, ww2 uniform and a peg leg. He would make a great character/commander type figure. Also the strikingly beautiful girl in a padded jacket cradling an SMG . Did they survive the uprising I wonder?
Hello, if its the girl with the shpagina, then no she didn't survive.
This one?
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/f8/f3/51/f8f351673c1a88b2e3919a6c8300f6fa.jpg)
Googled it 'cos I don't know what a "shpagina" is. Imagine my surprise when Google genuinely returned this ...
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/5b/08/15/5b08157ee7569913d502096ebb2e38f3.jpg)
Please enlighten me.
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/61/fd/90/61fd90fa0fc33c5589cf00c61ef5ace6.jpg)
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/7d/b3/4b/7db34be07f3bcbbac8742671f71e41eb.jpg)
Not something I know a lot about, but the images are haunting.
Quote from: fsn on 23 September 2015, 08:55:50 PM
This one?
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/f8/f3/51/f8f351673c1a88b2e3919a6c8300f6fa.jpg)
Please enlighten me.
When I studied and indeed taught Modern European History back in the last century, the Iron Curtain was still in place and the Internet a science fictional dream.
One brief search reveals that in the last decade, journalists identified the young woman (girl really) as Erika Szeles. She was just 15 when she joined the uprising. Before the end, friends persuaded her to be a red cross nurse and help the wounded.
On the 8th November, despite her distinctive Red Cross uniform, the Soviets gunned her down.
Intrigued by the availability of source material, I tracked down two other images that have haunted me:
1. The peg leg soldier was Janos 'Janko' Mesz - he was not a WW2 vet, but lost his leg in a tram accident. One of the leaders of the Corvin Lane Group , he was reported KIA 4 Nov, but not before he had liberated a 122mm gun and used it on the Soviets. His fellow crew members were killed by tank fire, which wounded him - some images show him bandaged. His uniform is the Hungarian M-51 jacket with the distinctive Austro-Hungarian pocket flaps.
2. The boy in the bowler hat - Tibor Fejes Jozsef - executed by the Soviets 9 April 1959. When photographed he had just liberated a spank new AK47.
Osprey have an excellent publication on the Revolution in their Elite series. One factor in gaming the conflict. The Soviet tanks had to trundle around Budapest in high gear at low speeds. This made their engines overheat, which made them very vulnerable to petrol bombs on the engine deck. The tanks were also sprayed with bullets which caused sparks which ignited the petrol. Very effective.
My thanks to our new member Lurch for bringing this conflict to our attention. If war gaming helps stimulate the remembrance and memorial of the brave man and women of the 1956 Hungarian Revolution then make it so.
I'd take her out for a gyulash!
Good to know such detailed records survive, and the Soviets didn't just wipe them from history.
Hello All
As a tangentially related aside, I can remember the 'Blood in the Water' water polo match in Melbourne in 1956. Melbourne at that time had a lot of recent Eastern European migrants and the feelings in the city were running high. I can remember that there was a lot of behind-the-scenes work being done with various communities to calm things down. Contemporary newspaper report :-
http://www.smh.com.au/news/175-years/cold-war-violence-erupts-at-melbourne-olympics/2006/04/17/1145126047088.html (http://www.smh.com.au/news/175-years/cold-war-violence-erupts-at-melbourne-olympics/2006/04/17/1145126047088.html)
Cheers
GrumpyOldMan
Next year will be the 50th anniversary, and the last great milestone when the participants will still be with us to share their stories.
It will be interesting to see how Hungary and indeed the rest of the world marks it.
As we are in the 'request section' I will make a suggestion; Leon keeps reminding us, figures are the easy to sculpt as opposed to vehicles. 99% of the kit for 1956 already is out there.
A small commemorative Hungarian Uprising 1956 Range to fill the gaps and memorialise the heroes and heroines like Erika Szeles, Jacko Mesz and Tibor Jozesf would go well.
A painted diorama could be presented by Pendraken to the Hungarian Embassy. That would be a nice touch.
Problem is it would mean Phil actually doing some work, a highly unlikely event.
IanS ;)
Quote from: Sunray on 24 September 2015, 02:09:07 AM
My thanks to our new member Lurch for bringing this conflict to our attention. If war gaming helps stimulate the remembrance and memorial of the brave man and women of the 1956 Hungarian Revolution then make it so.
Well said that man, and my thanks also Lurch
Quote from: fsn on 23 September 2015, 08:58:50 PM
Not something I know a lot about, but the images are haunting.
Haunting indeed, some old family friends of ours left/fled Hungary not long after the uprising
Quote from: FierceKitty on 24 September 2015, 03:52:28 AM
I'd take her out for a gyulash!
I'm glad you didn't totally lower the tone
Quote from: Sunray on 24 September 2015, 08:59:40 AM
Next year will be the 50th anniversary, and the last great milestone when the participants will still be with us to share their stories.
It will be interesting to see how Hungary and indeed the rest of the world marks it.
As we are in the 'request section' I will make a suggestion; Leon keeps reminding us, figures are the easy to sculpt as opposed to vehicles. 99% of the kit for 1956 already is out there.
I think you mean
60th, but a very good suggestion. It will indeed be interesting to see how it is remembered
Quote from: fsn on 23 September 2015, 08:55:50 PM
Googled it 'cos I don't know what a "shpagina" is. Imagine my surprise when Google genuinely returned this ...
Please enlighten me.
(http://www.widewallpapershd.info/file/8392/728x408/16:9/pca-smg-shpagina_1334438113.jpg)
Shpagina SMG or PPSh-41
Yes indeed 60th anniversary ! In 1990, my work took me to the Peto Institute in Budapest, and I had a limited opportunity to visit Hospk Tere (Heroes Square ) . This was only months after the re- internment of Imre Nagy which marked the most blatant peoples' protest against Soviet occupation and I believe led directly to the collapse of communism in eastern Europe.
[ No more subsidised road trips for Comrade Corbyn ]
At that time the bullet marked walls and repaired battle damage was still very visible.
But I would like to hear from Lurch. He has envisaged the Uprising game. Would personality type figures - and Phil would do us proud with his sculpts - enhance the wargame you had in mind ?
I looked at my N gauge real estate - I have quite a few city block buildings from Kestral . KD23 is useful as it can be given a flat roof,
Graham Farish low relief card fronts are around £4 and Ten Commandments who as the name suggests cast in plaster.
They also do a very useful prefab type bungalow at £5 which can be painted as a barrack hut.
Some years ago 1920s era gangster figures were talked about. Perhaps a 20th century civilian range that encapsulates resistance fighters, gangsters, secret agents, Warsaw uprising and 1956 Budapest freedom fighters might have a market.
Hello Sunray
I've found the downloadable buildings from Hawk to be very handy for cityscapes http://www.hawkwargames.com/blogs/downloadable-buildings (http://www.hawkwargames.com/blogs/downloadable-buildings)
(http://www.papercraftsquare.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/hawkwargamespaperbuildings.jpg)
(https://surgemmo.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/imag0376.jpg)
They have a number of Art Deco buildings available. I've had to modify some to remove evidence of air conditioning but still handy.
Cheers
GrumpyOldMan
Cheers Vic - a really useful find!
In addition to the city blocks, I have ordered their fighter stands for my 1/144 plastic aircraft.
Those are the old Epic ones, always been useful.
IanS
Jagdpanze kanone would be awesome as well as the early Cold War regulars.
Count me in for all of the early Bundeswehr, much of which can serve in the US, Danish, and other armies too.
Forgot to mention those nice little Soviet BMD-1s as well, which are very useful from the 1970s - today, in Ukraine, and other threaters/countries, if needed as well.
Add the Saladin and of course theT-10 to the mix, to go up against the M-103 tank.
Thank you.
1950's-to present day African infantry in beret/bush hat/field cap-Western/Communist with small arms and heavy weapons.
Israeli inf in field cap with Uzi, Ak47 and RPG-"Raid on Entebbe".
Land Rover with Recoil Rifle.
European Terrorists.
Hostages.
Jeff
Hi. Must say I've been trying to stay away from the Moderns...far too much unfinished/unstarted projects! But the Falklands Brits are crying out to be used for BAOR on exercise or Cold War gone hot...lovely figs! How about FV432's closed or open hatch...as in mortar carriers?
Were they just to be used only as 'battle-busses'...to be got out from as quick as pos! Or, were some troops likely to have given fire support from open hatches? (Separate commanders with GPMGs would be nice!).
Am toying with getting a couple of Minifigs 432's, but Pendraken Scorpions are better sculpts than theirs...so...any in the pipeline?
And maybe the odd Chieftan 5 or three, though that's a LOT of metal to put on a 10mm table!
Cheers!
You had me at BAOR B)
Centurion BARV, one made it to the Falklands!
http://www.thinkdefence.co.uk/2012/08/the-beach-recovery-vehicle/
*editted for the right tank*
Lovely video of a Cent BARV. :)
Quote from: Heedless Horseman on 13 December 2015, 12:55:14 AM
Hi. Must say I've been trying to stay away from the Moderns...far too much unfinished/unstarted projects! But the Falklands Brits are crying out to be used for BAOR on exercise or Cold War gone hot...lovely figs! How about FV432's closed or open hatch...as in mortar carriers?
Were they just to be used only as 'battle-busses'...to be got out from as quick as pos! Or, were some troops likely to have given fire support from open hatches? (Separate commanders with GPMGs would be nice!).
Am toying with getting a couple of Minifigs 432's, but Pendraken Scorpions are better sculpts than theirs...so...any in the pipeline?
And maybe the odd Chieftan 5 or three, though that's a LOT of metal to put on a 10mm table!
Cheers!
The 432 evolved from the FV400 as a tracked APC -a battle-bus as you describe it. You (a section) sat facing inwards and there were no external vision devices - apart from driver and commander - when buttoned up. The only weapon that could be deployed was the GPMG on the commanders hatch. Yes, you could open the four piece roof hatch, but that would only allow about 5 or 6 fully equipped soldiers to stand unsupported and try to assume a firing position.
Unlike your figures we could not Suoerglue their feet to the floor.
They would be exposed to incoming fire. The movement of the vehicle was like trying to shoot from a galloping horse and remember the LIAI is single shot.
To give fire support to mechanised infantry some were fitted with a Peak GPMG turret and extra smoke and the Berlin FF had a version with the 30mm Rarden . There was also a REME adaption of a twin GPMG . It was know as the SCAT allegedly as it was made to an MoD budget and Should Cost A Tenner!
The other personal memory from spending time travelling in a closed down 432 was that when time came to de bus, there was a serious disorientation for those vital first few minutes, and you generally took cover until you could asses the local conditions, features and situation.
Quite a few 432s made it to Suffield and our Canadian cousins said they preferred them to the ubiquitous M113 with the traditional steel plate giving a bit more comfort against mines.
Does Pendraken have any plans for a "Disgraced former Defence Secretary" figure?
Keen collectors will require at least 3 different poses.
I would quite like a model of his replacement ! I'm sure this puts me in a
club of one but I think she is a 'horsey looker'... :d
Phil
=O =O =O =D>
Quote from: Glorfindel on 02 May 2019, 01:35:09 PM
I would quite like a model of his replacement ! I'm sure this puts me in a
club of one but I think she is a 'horsey looker'... :d
Phil
Her next duty in HMS King Arthur (RN Shore Station) will be interesting to say the least. :)
Quote from: Glorfindel on 02 May 2019, 01:35:09 PM
I would quite like a model of his replacement ! I'm sure this puts me in a
club of one but I think she is a 'horsey looker'... :d
Phil
Will require a larger than standard base, or depicted wearing backpack (apparently).
https://newsthump.com/2019/05/02/new-defence-secretary-has-big-tits-confirms-the-sun/ (https://newsthump.com/2019/05/02/new-defence-secretary-has-big-tits-confirms-the-sun/)
See Top Totty thread for evidence :)
Bridge layers besides the AVLB scissors types would be a good idea.
Russian MTU-12 and 20 for WW3 and Syrians in 73. Syrians: MT-55 types seems only to have been in their republican guard units.
I second the following:
from VonMeisten
Abrams, Bradley, T-72, BMP and infantry
Someone else mentioned these as well...
Blackhawks
Chinooks
Apache gunships
Timecast... ;)