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Title: Crimean war Russians
Post by: sultanbev on 10 June 2015, 09:10:33 PM
Need some help with Russian dragoons of the Crimean war. Google-fu failure!
What colour uniform, coat and pants, what colour were lance pennants, and what colour/make were their canteen water bottles?

Cheers,

Mark
Title: Re: Crimean war Russians
Post by: Leon on 10 June 2015, 10:46:29 PM
These are from the Junior General site:

(http://www.juniorgeneral.org/donated/oldtyke/crimruss1.gif)

(http://www.juniorgeneral.org/donated/oldtyke/crimruss2.gif)

(http://www.juniorgeneral.org/donated/oldtyke/crimruss3.gif)


This artwork has the green uniform as well, with the lances:

(http://www.anticsonline.co.uk/l.aspx?k=2780935)


But Foundry have theirs looking like this...

(http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/files/cache/f8a47c23f56d20abba9c5cc349a8af6b_f3255.png)


Hope that's of some help!

:-\
Title: Re: Crimean war Russians
Post by: sultanbev on 10 June 2015, 10:56:05 PM
CHeers Leon,
hence my confusion
junior general has green coat and green pants with leg stripe
Strelets has green coat with blue-grey pants
Foundry and all others show the buff greatcoat and can't see uniform....

:(
Title: Re: Crimean war Russians
Post by: Subedai on 11 June 2015, 09:20:43 AM
If memory serves didn't the Heavy Cavalry Brigade have a bit of trouble with the Russian cavalry because their sabres were no good against the greatcoats worn by them? (Semantic nightmare but I hope you got my drift.)  If so go with the all-covering greatcoats.
Title: Re: Crimean war Russians
Post by: Ithoriel on 11 June 2015, 09:25:23 AM
Quote from: Subedai on 11 June 2015, 09:20:43 AM
If memory serves didn't the Heavy Cavalry Brigade have a bit of trouble with the Russian cavalry because their sabres were no good against the greatcoats worn by them? (Semantic nightmare but I hope you got my drift.)  If so go with the all-covering greatcoats.

Can't find a reference, of course, but I remember reading this too. The lighter, sharper Light Cavalry swords cut through the cloth but the heavier, blunter Heavy Cavalry swords didn't penetrate the cloth. Presumably a good blow with the Heavy Cavalry sword would still  inflict blunt force trauma wounds.
Title: Re: Crimean war Russians
Post by: cameronian on 11 June 2015, 12:39:13 PM
Its in Flashman at the Charge !
Title: Re: Crimean war Russians
Post by: Ithoriel on 11 June 2015, 01:04:57 PM
Since, as far as I recall, I've never read any of the Flashman books I'd assume I read it in something more reliable ... but you never know!
Title: Re: Crimean war Russians
Post by: Leman on 11 June 2015, 02:19:56 PM
Yes, it is recorded in a book I've read recently on  the Crimea. You can't go wrong if you put the Russian dragoons in greatcoats.