As usual I've done one item as a trial run to work out how to paint the rest.
One Tumbling dice 1:2400 small Spanish galleon down, 16 more ships plus some Brigade Tiny Terrain forts and gun batteries to go!
The Brigade stuff is nominally 1:1000 but looks fine to me :)
(http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w669/ithoriel/Armada/Spanish%20Ships/Small%20Galleon%20Montage_zpsot9o8gwo.jpg)
Very nice painting there! 8)
Very nice indeed, Ithoriel!
But, as this painting (and basing?) is a trial run, I need to ask: With hexagonal bases covering the whole hex and all of the ship models orientated on the bases as shown above, how do you "cross the T" in your games?
Quote from: Westmarcher on 29 May 2015, 01:57:53 PM
Very nice indeed, Ithoriel!
But, as this painting (and basing?) is a trial run, I need to ask: With hexagonal bases covering the whole hex and all of the ship models orientated on the bases as shown above, how do you "cross the T" in your games?
Thanks to you both for the kind comments.
The rules are my own and still "under construction!"
As it stands it is impossible to do significant damage to the fabric of a ship's hull. Damage is applied to Gunnery, Rigging, Crew and Soldiers.
Broadside guns cover an arc created by the two hexsides. Bow and stern chasers fire along a single row.
A vessel that can trace a a path to an opponent's bow or stern by the shortest route may opt for a bow or stern rake. The smaller target makes it harder to hit but damage is increased. Ships often have the option of firing at either bow/stern or beam.
Those are splendid ! :-bd
Cheers - Phil
Those look absolutely beautiful, Ithoriel. Very inspiring; perhaps too much so ;)
V/R,
Jack
:-bd =D> :-bd =D> :-bd
Very nice!
Oh! So nice! I like your ships.
Very, very nice.
Is that a decal on the sails, or are they hand painted and I hate you?
Quote from: fsn on 01 June 2015, 05:48:01 PM
Very, very nice.
Is that a decal on the sails, or are they hand painted and I hate you?
Thanks again folks.
You can relax fsn its a decal. I got Veni, Vidi, Vici 10mm and 15mm scale decals of crosses for the Spanish and roses for the English. Those three are 10mm versions.
Started painting the Spanish, based and undercoated the English, assembled and based the Brigade fortifications.
As ever, progress is slow but at least it's progressing :-)
Captain, duck!
It's Drake, you buffoon.
Quote from: Leman on 01 June 2015, 09:02:20 PM
Captain, duck!
It's Drake, you buffoon.
Dearie,
dearie, me. X_X ;D ;D
Cheers - Phil
Just watched Dan Snow's second programme on the Armada on the iplayer. Very inspiring stuff; Tumbling Dice should pay him commission.
the ships in the demos look more like Lagton ones
IanS
See top of thread.
Are those flooring tiles?
No tempted to re do my Ships in this scale - using 'Pirates' plasticard ships at the mo!
The "sea" is 1m x 2m of vinyl flooring from Carpetwise.
The bases are Pendraken 30mm hex mdf bases which fit very neatly into the grid on the flooring!
Who'dve thought Carpetwise would design their flooring to match Pendraken bases :)
Very nice, I'd missed this the other day.
I'd maybe go for blue edges to the bases, rather than white, they will probably blend in visually a bit more.
I did originally have the edges blue but sitting it on the vinyl I decided it would look better with a white edge to merge it with the hex grid. Lets face it, a game played on a white gridded blue sheet will never look naturalistic so I decided to emphasise the "playing piece" aspect of the model.
Let's face it, I can always go back later and paint them blue if I decide it doesn't look so good en masse.
Fair point.
It does seem white or black base edges seem to set the figure apart from the table more and create that playing piece feel.
Great stuff!
Quote from: Ithoriel on 03 June 2015, 02:16:27 AM
The "sea" is 1m x 2m of vinyl flooring from Carpetwise.
Who'dve thought Carpetwise would design their flooring to match Pendraken bases :)
Did Carpetwise comment on the diminutive nature if your intended floor?
I've bought a bit of vinyl about that size, to actually use as flooring in a real room.
Quote from: WeeWars on 03 June 2015, 07:15:43 PM
Great stuff!
Did Carpetwise comment on the diminutive nature if your intended floor?
I went in and said I wanted a 2x1m piece to use as sea in a wargame and the assistant spent a moment or two talking about the fact his brother played GW games and was mine similar. I said similar but not the same and he went off and cut the vinyl. Say what you like about GW, they have made wargaming more visible to the general public.
Quote from: Last Hussar on 02 June 2015, 09:31:53 PM
Are those flooring tiles?
No tempted to re do my Ships in this scale - using 'Pirates' plasticard ships at the mo!
Same here! no painting means :-bd :-bd :-bd <:-P
Quote from: Ithoriel on 03 June 2015, 09:55:24 PM
Say what you like about GW, they have made wargaming more visible to the general public.
I find it really useful having a GW in town - it means you can talk to someone who understands you, and doesn't give you funny looks when you are trying to explain what you are trying to do.
I got almost the whole of Trafalgar in 'Pirates' ships, but now you can't get them anymore I'm not going to be able to finish it. After the craze passed the Works in Portmouth were selling them at 50p a pack!
I got a very funny look in Southport GW when I explained I was producing figures for the Great Italian Wars.
I always get that mental crunching of gears from GW staff...
"So, what army do you collect?!"
War of the Spanish Succession French in 10mm.
"Grind, crunch, flounder"
More to the point, nice ships :)
The ship, basing, and 'sea'...all splendidly inspired!
Wooden Ships and Iron Men rules might need to be dug out (I bags the British!).
;D
Quote from: Last Hussar on 07 June 2015, 08:23:36 PM
I find it really useful having a GW in town - it means you can talk to someone who understands you, and doesn't give you funny looks when you are trying to explain what you are trying to do.
I got almost the whole of Trafalgar in 'Pirates' ships, but now you can't get them anymore I'm not going to be able to finish it. After the craze passed the Works in Portmouth were selling them at 50p a pack!
http://www.benl.ebay.be/itm/PIRATES-POCKET-MODEL-FIRE-STEEL-X-15-GAME-PACKS-BRAND-NEW-CLOSEOUT-PRICE-/161691813663?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item25a595471f
If you want you can browse this guys shop, about as cheap if you don't count the shipping!
Inspired by pierre the shy's 40mm coastal hex terrain I thought it was about time I updated this thread with some pics of hex based forts for my Armada period stuff.
The forts are all from Brigade Miniatures' Small Scale Scenery range. Although the ships are 1/2400 and the forts are around 1/1000 I think they look OK together
Initial ships for the Spanish fleet are painted, must take some photos and post those too.
English fleet languishing at the assembled and undercoated stage, Spanish merchant ships still in bags as are the 1/3000th scale Navwar harbour sections.
Those look absolutely fine together, to me, I.
That looks really rather spiffy !
Cheers - Phil.
Top work Mike! 8)
:-bd =D> :-bd =D> :-bd
The bronze cannon, terracotta roofs and other little details really set them off nicely :)
Does anyone do ancient towns in a similar scale?
Paul, Brigade do town sets for Normandy (WW2, complete with an impressive range of bunkers and pill-boxes); Mediterranean (think white walls and orange pantiles); Middle East or N. Africa (Sumer to South Sudan); English (20th C or Rennaissance onwards) towns, cities, villages and agricultural; Ancient Rome and generic harbour sets.
Have considered using the Med housing for a Spanish Main settlement of some sort. Maybe using the Hotel as the Governer's mansion!
Also, thanks to all for the kind comments.
Lovely! :D
Mike,
The word I'll use for your last pics is enchanting!
Must..resist..falling..under..the...spell.. :)
Those look brilliant! =P~ :-bd
Looks really good. Would not want to be on board that Spanish galleon, unless the forts are Spanish controlled.
Very nice! Looks very 'do-able' and promising for loads of actions on the Spanish Main.
And with suitably scaled land forces, already thinking of Drake's attack on St Augustine, Florida (1586), and singeing the King of Spain's beard at Cadiz (1587).
Aaarrr! :ar!
Irregular's 2mm Spanish Tercios are really impressive
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g440/dourpuritan/2mm%20stuff/IMG_1717_zpsmbbiw0o5.jpg)
Dashed spiffy Leman, always nice to see as much effort going into the terrain as into the figures.
You're not wrong! 8)
To scale with the ships infantry would need to be 0.5mm tall!
Which hasn't stopped me eyeing the Irregular 2mm stuff.
The actions on the Spanish Main tended to involve small forces, many of them either militia or local natives ("Indians" to the non-PC among us :) ).
I'm thinking tercios for the Spanish regulars, pike & shot blocks for the Spanish militia, forlorn hope/ dismounted dragoon types for the English sailors and Ancients period bowmen for the natives. Spanish artillery, where present tended to be in the forts while the English regularly seem to have brought guns ashore from ships, especially ones previously captured from the Spanish. So some light(-ish) artillery needed for the English.
Forces are often in the couple of hundred a side range so I could do 1:1 scale forces!
Or I could just use cardboard counters on the grounds they're closer to ground-scale than the figures. You all know how fond I am on "wendy houses" :)
Well Ithoriel
After coming back several times and looking at your pics and reading through this thread, I couldn't stand it any longer -
Just ordered the Anglo/Dutch starter packs from Tumbling Dice! I like gridded games and what you are doing but realize your rules are
still a WIP. Do you (or anyone) know of rules that might work for the earlier Anglo/Dutch wars?
Quote from: Ithoriel on 20 January 2016, 07:59:08 PM
To scale with the ships infantry would need to be 0.5mm tall!
Do you want me to make some ? ......I've always got bits of spare putty. :D
Cheers - Phil
Quote from: Techno on 25 January 2016, 04:43:27 PM
Do you want me to make some ? ......I've always got bits of spare putty. :D
Cheers - Phil
You need to get the cut of the jackets right :)
More seriously, I've ordered up a few quids worth of Irregular 2mm. At around twelve quid for enough blocks of figures to do several of the smaller actions at 1:1 figure ratio it seemed foolish to pass up the chance.
;D ;D ;D ;D
I've made 6mm stuff...and I could imagine the processes involved in 2mm.....But smaller than that............................. :-\
Cheers - Phil
Possibly. ;)
Cheers - Phil
Quote from: d_Guy on 25 January 2016, 04:05:41 PM
Well Ithoriel
After coming back several times and looking at your pics and reading through this thread, I couldn't stand it any longer -
Just ordered the Anglo/Dutch starter packs from Tumbling Dice! I like gridded games and what you are doing but realize your rules are
still a WIP. Do you (or anyone) know of rules that might work for the earlier Anglo/Dutch wars?
Hello d_Guy
Have a look at http://wdwgamers.weebly.com/uploads/2/3/2/0/23200634/1666__anglo_dutch_war_rules.doc (http://wdwgamers.weebly.com/uploads/2/3/2/0/23200634/1666__anglo_dutch_war_rules.doc)
Cheers
GrumpyOldMan
Grumpy - thank you!
Hex grid - designed for 1/2400 and early A/D wars - easy to follow - looks like a great intro to the age of sail gaming! =D>
Looks a good basic set of rules with a bit of period flavour :)