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Title: Why do things always come in 3's...
Post by: Leon on 13 May 2015, 12:11:31 PM
1. The Pendraken van started making some funny noises around Salute time, so we got that checked and the gearbox is knackered.  It's down at the garage now getting a new gearbox fitted, just in time for Triples, but that's a bill we could have done without!

2.  Ian was happily casting away yesterday when suddenly all the power in the unit tripped out.  Looks like there's a short in the control box on that casting machine, so looks like we're going to have to get a new one fitted.  Down to two machines at one of the busiest times of the year...  :(

3.  Tried to log on to my laptop at home the other night, and got a 'User profile could not logon' error.  Turns out my Windows user profile is corrupt and I can't get into it.  I'm going to have to backup everything and make a new profile, but all my desktop layout, settings and Firefox browser bookmarks are probably lost.  Luckily I can still access all of the Pendraken stuff on there, but only through a second 'Parent Controlled' profile we set up for the eldest son a while back.


Loads of fun when we're so busy...  >:(
Title: Re: Why do things always come in 3's...
Post by: Techno on 13 May 2015, 12:28:35 PM
 X_X X_X X_X

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Why do things always come in 3's...
Post by: Steve J on 13 May 2015, 12:38:11 PM
Oh now that's not good :(.
Title: Re: Why do things always come in 3's...
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 13 May 2015, 12:48:25 PM
Ouch x 3!
Title: Re: Why do things always come in 3's...
Post by: Zippee on 13 May 2015, 02:26:04 PM
can't you just use a clone account. . .  :-\

;D
Title: Re: Why do things always come in 3's...
Post by: Matt J on 13 May 2015, 02:29:09 PM
Have you upset North Korea
Title: Re: Why do things always come in 3's...
Post by: Luddite on 13 May 2015, 02:37:16 PM
Nil desperandum.

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Title: Re: Why do things always come in 3's...
Post by: Orcs on 13 May 2015, 03:16:20 PM
Thats a reall bugger.

My Aunt died and the funeral was a couple of weeks ago, thats wasn't so bad she was 97 and had Alzhiemers.  We arived home in the evening for MRS orcs to recieve an email that one of her old work Colleagues had died - Funeral this friday.

Meanwhile one of the guys at the Rifle club dies of Stomach cancer 6 weeks after diagnosis.  Funeral was last week.

So if things come in threes anyone who knows me should be alright for a while at least.

Title: Re: Why do things always come in 3's...
Post by: Ithoriel on 13 May 2015, 03:40:23 PM
Currently two down, one to go on that front Orcs.  :o

Given the state of my health, I like to check every morning that the third one wasn't me :)
Title: Re: Why do things always come in 3's...
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 13 May 2015, 03:43:15 PM
Leon - if its corrupted your password log on on another m/c and change it there.

IanS
Title: Re: Why do things always come in 3's...
Post by: Leon on 13 May 2015, 04:47:27 PM
Quote from: ianrs54 on 13 May 2015, 03:43:15 PM
Leon - if its corrupted your password log on on another m/c and change it there.

I wouldn't have thought that was possible?  It's the Windows user profile that's dodgy, so the login/password screen that comes up when I turn my laptop on?  Another machine wouldn't recognise my user profile. 

I've checked some online tutorials, and apparently I need to backup everything, then create a new user profile and make it 'Administrator'.  From there I can copy all the files in the broken profile and paste them into the new one.  I don't think there's any way of getting my bookmarks back though, which is a bit of a nuisance.  We had all sorts saved on there, including all the sites/forums I use to promote Battleground.  Plus my desktop layout, which I'm quite particular about!
Title: Re: Why do things always come in 3's...
Post by: Ithoriel on 13 May 2015, 05:01:21 PM
Firefox favourites are held in a separate file (or set of files, can't remember which) and can be retrieved. Did it a couple of times myself a few months ago when three PCs failed one after another ... see, threes!!

There are instructions on the Mozilla website which, of course, I didn't bookmark!

Worth a look.
Title: Re: Why do things always come in 3's...
Post by: John Cook on 13 May 2015, 05:58:32 PM
Quote from: Leon on 13 May 2015, 12:11:31 PM
Loads of fun when we're so busy...  >:(

I'll bet Leon.  You know that all machines, car, computers, all of them, are female don't you?  It tends to explain quite a lot, in my view.

Anyway, speaking of 3, and in more constructive vein, have you been watching to increase of plastic 3D printed stuff?  I have bought quite a bit over the last year, mainly aircraft and 1:144/N Gauge railway kit, including civilian figures, mainly from Shapeway.  They are remarkable if a bit on the pricey side at present. Customers can already design their own stuff using 3D software and Shapeway will produce it.  Can you imagine that!   

No idea what the cost is though but I wouldn't mind betting that in ten years, or so, white metal wargames figures and vehicles might be a thing of the past.  The possibilities seem extraordinary.  What do you think.
Title: Re: Why do things always come in 3's...
Post by: petercooman on 13 May 2015, 06:23:26 PM
Quote from: John Cook on 13 May 2015, 05:58:32 PM


No idea what the cost is though but I wouldn't mind betting that in ten years, or so, white metal wargames figures and vehicles might be a thing of the past.

No no and no  :P
Title: Re: Why do things always come in 3's...
Post by: paulr on 13 May 2015, 08:08:12 PM
Quote from: John Cook on 13 May 2015, 05:58:32 PM
No idea what the cost is though but I wouldn't mind betting that in ten years, or so, white metal wargames figures and vehicles might be a thing of the past.  The possibilities seem extraordinary.  What do you think.

There have been a few discussions on this in various threads

I think the consensus seems to be, good if you want a few of something e.g. Ships, not as economic as casting if you want lots e.g. Figures

The definition of lots will increase as the materials tech becomes more mainstream :-\
Title: Re: Why do things always come in 3's...
Post by: Ithoriel on 13 May 2015, 08:27:26 PM
Quote from: John Cook on 13 May 2015, 05:58:32 PM
They are remarkable if a bit on the pricey side at present

Pricey!!?? To date, everything I've seen on Shapeway has been an item I didn't want at a price I would never pay even if I did want it!!

Also, I don't really want to have to design my own stuff.

Currently I see it as similar to 3D films ... a cure looking for a disease!

Laser-cut MDF terrain on the other hand has been a materials revolution I can relate to.
Title: Re: Why do things always come in 3's...
Post by: Leon on 13 May 2015, 10:50:10 PM
We keep an eye on the 3D tech, but I don't see it becoming competitively priced for a long time yet.  I see a lot of comparisons with desktop printers or digital cameras, but both of those have a mugh higher level of demand than 3D prints, so the price of them has come down a huge amount since they first appeared.  3D printing isn't something every household requires, so although the pricing will come down over time, it will level out at a much higher point than a printer/camera/scanner, etc.

I had a 28mm vehicle designed and printed last year, and it was a little over £500 all-in, which is very competitive.  However for the same vehicle in 10mm, we'd be looking at £250-£300 which is nowhere near viable for us.
Title: Re: Why do things always come in 3's...
Post by: clibinarium on 13 May 2015, 10:53:32 PM
Well, I've just got my first 3D prints back from shapeways and I gotta say I'm impressed with the potential. I have some doubts its economical or desirable for everyone to engage in (I could bake my own bread, but its too much hassle to learn and to time consuming to bother). But it terms of producing master figures I do reckon it will come to dominate.
I have never been able to produce "straight line" work, but was faced with a job where I had to learn, so I thought the time would be better spent learning some 3d design as I had that on my "to do " list. So I taught myself some basics and got the hang of it in a couple of weeks, and its really growing on me. Its not so straightforward that everyone will take to it. I imagine a lot of people who use CAD in their regular work can pick it up fast, but for the average person it takes a bit of patience and head-scratching.
For organic sculpting a much higher level of skill is required, I don't see myself getting the hang of that for some time, but for cannons, weapons etc its great; superb accuracy and the ability to make things that would be extremely difficult to do by hand. I've made some helmets, weapon heads/blades and a French Napoleonic 4pdr in 28mm do far. My next intended experiment in shrinking the gun down to 10mm to see how that turns out (very delicate is my guess).
The downside is the wait time between sending for printing and the arrival of the print, only then do you really see whats too thin, not angled right etc, which are immediately detectable when made by hand.
Title: Re: Why do things always come in 3's...
Post by: John Cook on 13 May 2015, 11:22:55 PM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 13 May 2015, 08:27:26 PM
Pricey!!?? To date, everything I've seen on Shapeway has been an item I didn't want at a price I would never pay even if I did want it!!

Also, I don't really want to have to design my own stuff.

Currently I see it as similar to 3D films ... a cure looking for a disease!

Laser-cut MDF terrain on the other hand has been a materials revolution I can relate to.

I disagree, approximately E7 or £5 for a 1:144 plane that isn't available anywhere else is not pricey in my book.  I've paid more for white metal and resin.  I admit though that there doesn't seem to be a common standard for pricing and some things are expensive, it's true.  The price will come down, it's bound to - all new technology does.
I remember people saying much the same about CDs and DVDs, mobile phones, PC's, you name it, when they first appeared.   As for designing your own stuff, well that's not mandatory for sure.  I'll bet my three pensions 3D printing will be the norm in a decade or so. 
Title: Re: Why do things always come in 3's...
Post by: Ithoriel on 13 May 2015, 11:35:48 PM
Quote from: John Cook on 13 May 2015, 11:22:55 PM
I disagree, approximately E7 or £5 for a 1:144 plane that isn't available anywhere else is not pricey in my book.  I've paid more for white metal and resin.  I admit though that there doesn't seem to be a common standard for pricing and some things are expensive, it's true.  The price will come down, it's bound to - all new technology does.
I remember people saying much the same about CDs and DVDs, mobile phones, PC's, you name it, when they first appeared.   As for designing your own stuff, well that's not mandatory for sure.  I'll bet my three pensions 3D printing will be the norm in a decade or so. 

Depends what you're after, of course, but £5 for a 10mm scale plane sounds pricey to me but then I'm not after anything out of the ordinary. The aircraft I have have all been half that and frankly £5 sounds low for stuff from Shapeway, at least for the stuff I've looked at.

I was enthusiastic about CDs, DVDs, mobile phones (when they came in a suitcase!) and personal computers (when they came in a suitcase too :) ) from the get go but home 3D printing still feels to me like a solution looking for a problem. Industrial use I see being increasingly widely used. 3D printers seem more like home bread makers to me, used regularly 'til the novelty wears off then more ornament and lifestyle statement than tool.

I may well be wrong ... wouldn't be the first time  :-[  =)  :)
Title: Re: Why do things always come in 3's...
Post by: John Cook on 13 May 2015, 11:41:16 PM
Yes, Leon and Clib, it's the potential that's exiting, I think, and it bound to get cheaper.   I can see that price is a potential issue - I've been wargaming since the early 1960s and one thing that has never changed in all that time is that wargamers are, on the whole, a tight-fisted bunch.  
It's certainly in its infancy at the moment.   I don't see people having 3D printers at home, rather a 'Pendraken' of the future doing more or less what it does now, but not in white metal.  
Title: Re: Why do things always come in 3's...
Post by: John Cook on 13 May 2015, 11:46:04 PM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 13 May 2015, 11:35:48 PM
3D printers seem more like home bread makers to me, used regularly 'til the novelty wears off then more ornament and lifestyle statement than tool.

I may well be wrong ... wouldn't be the first time  :-[  =)  :)

Blimey, I've been using my bread maker for years, in fact I'm on my second one.   I can't imagine being without it - which reminds me I have to put a loaf on for breakfast so I'll bid you Goodnight.:D
Title: Re: Why do things always come in 3's...
Post by: fsn on 14 May 2015, 07:19:07 AM
Quote from: John Cook on 13 May 2015, 11:46:04 PM
Blimey, I've been using my bread maker for years, in fact I'm on my second one.   I can't imagine being without it - which reminds me I have to put a loaf on for breakfast so I'll bid you Goodnight.:D

Cue "bun in oven" jokes.

I bet bread related puns will now roll in. It's a little slice of the forum that gets some people annoyed - so we have to say "easy Tiger". Well so ses-a-me; but let's toast our differences and pop over to the (much neglected) totty thread to view some baps.
Title: Re: Why do things always come in 3's...
Post by: FierceKitty on 14 May 2015, 07:20:30 AM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 13 May 2015, 08:27:26 PM
... a cure looking for a disease!


You like this idiom, don't you?
Title: Re: Why do things always come in 3's...
Post by: Womble67 on 14 May 2015, 08:45:11 AM
Quote from: Leon on 13 May 2015, 12:11:31 PM
1. The Pendraken van started making some funny noises around Salute time, so we got that checked and the gearbox is knackered.  It's down at the garage now getting a new gearbox fitted, just in time for Triples, but that's a bill we could have done without!

2.  Ian was happily casting away yesterday when suddenly all the power in the unit tripped out.  Looks like there's a short in the control box on that casting machine, so looks like we're going to have to get a new one fitted.  Down to two machines at one of the busiest times of the year...  :(

3.  Tried to log on to my laptop at home the other night, and got a 'User profile could not logon' error.  Turns out my Windows user profile is corrupt and I can't get into it.  I'm going to have to backup everything and make a new profile, but all my desktop layout, settings and Firefox browser bookmarks are probably lost.  Luckily I can still access all of the Pendraken stuff on there, but only through a second 'Parent Controlled' profile we set up for the eldest son a while back.


Loads of fun when we're so busy...  >:(

Hi Leon sorry to hear about your problems.

Let's hope you get three good things that happen.

Take care

Andy

Title: Re: Why do things always come in 3's...
Post by: Bodvoc on 14 May 2015, 04:44:55 PM
How about two pals and myself come along (in a group of 3) and spend lots of money on the Pendraken stall this Sunday.  :)
Title: Re: Why do things always come in 3's...
Post by: Leon on 14 May 2015, 05:46:47 PM
Quote from: Bodvoc on 14 May 2015, 04:44:55 PM
How about two pals and myself come along (in a group of 3) and spend lots of money on the Pendraken stall this Sunday.  :)

That sounds good, although you might need an extra person, Number 4 descended today as I've got a throat infection as well...  >:(  Luckily I'm not contagious (unless anyone fancies kissing me...  :-& )
Title: Re: Why do things always come in 3's...
Post by: Techno on 14 May 2015, 07:07:21 PM
Does that mean I have to sterilise the figures that Dave sent, that arrived today ?
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Why do things always come in 3's...
Post by: fsn on 14 May 2015, 07:23:45 PM
Blimey! That's what I call micro-surgery!

Title: Re: Why do things always come in 3's...
Post by: Techno on 14 May 2015, 08:32:15 PM
And I'll do them without anesthetic.......With the Dremmel.
None of this namby-pamby stuff, using scalpels.

Nobby......The screens, please.  ;)
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Why do things always come in 3's...
Post by: fsn on 15 May 2015, 05:43:16 PM
May I have a go? I've just received some very tasty circular saws for the Dremmel.    :d

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61M%2BT4baoAL._SL1001_.jpg)
Title: Re: Why do things always come in 3's...
Post by: Techno on 15 May 2015, 07:10:07 PM
Remember all those safety tips I've given you, Nobby.  :D
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Why do things always come in 3's...
Post by: fsn on 15 May 2015, 07:19:14 PM
I haven't licked the blades when they're spinning.

Honest.  :^o
Title: Re: Why do things always come in 3's...
Post by: Ithoriel on 15 May 2015, 07:20:47 PM
Quote from: fsn on 15 May 2015, 07:19:14 PM
I haven't licked the blades when they're spinning.

Honest.  :^o

White man speak with forked tongue.  :)
Title: Re: Why do things always come in 3's...
Post by: Orcs on 19 May 2015, 12:23:00 AM
Quote from: fsn on 15 May 2015, 05:43:16 PM
May I have a go? I've just received some very tasty circular saws for the Dremmel.    :d

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61M%2BT4baoAL._SL1001_.jpg)


Oooh! they look rather good.  Better than the diks I currenly have that shatter.  Where did you get them from?
Title: Re: Why do things always come in 3's...
Post by: barbarian on 19 May 2015, 12:34:09 AM
Same question here.
Title: Re: Why do things always come in 3's...
Post by: fsn on 19 May 2015, 07:16:58 AM
Amazon.

They are rather effective and quite lethal looking.



HeroNeo® 6PCS HSS Rotary Circular Saw Blades Tool Cutting Discs Mandrel For Dremel Cutoff £2.99

http://www.amazon.co.uk/HeroNeo-Rotary-Circular-Cutting-Mandrel/dp/B00KDZ5AZ2/ref=sr_1_1?s=diy&ie=UTF8&qid=1432020057&sr=1-1&keywords=heroneo (http://www.amazon.co.uk/HeroNeo-Rotary-Circular-Cutting-Mandrel/dp/B00KDZ5AZ2/ref=sr_1_1?s=diy&ie=UTF8&qid=1432020057&sr=1-1&keywords=heroneo)
Title: Re: Why do things always come in 3's...
Post by: Techno on 19 May 2015, 07:34:40 AM
What material are you cutting with them, Nobby ?
I'd advise against using those for anything made of any metal....They're either far too 'grabby', and/or very likely to slip.
I'll stick with the carborundum discs...Even tho' they DO tend to shatter. ;)

Cheers - Phil

Title: Re: Why do things always come in 3's...
Post by: fsn on 19 May 2015, 10:51:39 AM
Resin, wood, fingers.
Title: Re: Why do things always come in 3's...
Post by: Techno on 19 May 2015, 11:51:10 AM
I'll send you some plasters.  ;)
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Why do things always come in 3's...
Post by: Leon on 20 May 2015, 02:55:07 PM
Just to update, my computer is currently resisting all attempts to fix it, so I've decided to enter the 21st century and get us one of these cloud drive thingys.  The Google one looks quite good, but the time-consuming bit now is trying to organise everything into logical folders rather than the know-where-it-is clutter of the desktop on our work machine.
Title: Re: Why do things always come in 3's...
Post by: Techno on 20 May 2015, 03:17:00 PM
If I knew what a cloud drive thingy was.....I'm sure I'd say that was a good choice.  :D
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Why do things always come in 3's...
Post by: Fenton on 20 May 2015, 04:36:56 PM
Quote from: Leon on 20 May 2015, 02:55:07 PM
Just to update, my computer is currently resisting all attempts to fix it, so I've decided to enter the 21st century and get us one of these cloud drive thingys.  The Google one looks quite good, but the time-consuming bit now is trying to organise everything into logical folders rather than the know-where-it-is clutter of the desktop on our work machine.

Not sure what provider your with but BT do a nice one thats free
Title: Re: Why do things always come in 3's...
Post by: Leon on 20 May 2015, 08:13:48 PM
To further complicate things, the new motor/inverter to fix the casting machine won't arrive until Friday.  They need wiring together by an electrician friend of Dave's, so it looks like that won't be done until next week or even later, leaving us one machine down for the foreseeable. 

And the youngest fell off the dining room chair last night and fractured his elbow, so he'll be off school for a bit.

I'm waiting for all the wheels to randomly fall off my car now, that's got to be next to go...

Quote from: Fenton on 20 May 2015, 04:36:56 PM
Not sure what provider your with but BT do a nice one thats free

We're with BT, but I'm not that impressed with them and their constant meddling with our email interface.  The Google Drive has 15GB free, which is more than enough for what we need, and it's easily downloaded onto my home computer and tablet.  It's currently working through uploading the 2500 files I've thrown into our new cloud drive, so hopefully it finishes soon so I can go home!

Title: Re: Why do things always come in 3's...
Post by: Techno on 21 May 2015, 04:55:42 AM
Quote from: Leon on 20 May 2015, 08:13:48 PM
I'm waiting for all the wheels to randomly fall off my car now, that's got to be next to go...

It better not be that the package I sent yesterday, gets lost by the Post Office. X_X :-SS

Best wishes to the little lad ! 

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Why do things always come in 3's...
Post by: paulr on 21 May 2015, 08:59:30 AM
Quote from: Leon on 20 May 2015, 08:13:48 PM
To further complicate things, the new motor/inverter to fix the casting machine won't arrive until Friday.  They need wiring together by an electrician friend of Dave's, so it looks like that won't be done until next week or even later, leaving us one machine down for the foreseeable. 

And the youngest fell off the dining room chair last night and fractured his elbow, so he'll be off school for a bit.

I'm waiting for all the wheels to randomly fall off my car now, that's got to be next to go...

Bugger

Bugger

... :-w
Title: Re: Why do things always come in 3's...
Post by: Techno on 21 May 2015, 01:03:22 PM
Quote from: Techno on 21 May 2015, 04:55:42 AM
It better not be that the package I sent yesterday, gets lost by the Post Office. X_X :-SS

I know it's arrived now.  :D  PHEW !!!
Cheers - Phil

Title: Re: Why do things always come in 3's...
Post by: Dunnadd on 30 May 2015, 03:09:33 PM
Sounds like these - you need to stay armed at all times and stab or shoot them when they appear.

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