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Wider Wargaming => Resources => Resources - Ancients to Renaissance (3000BC - 1680) => Topic started by: Druzhina on 02 May 2015, 02:27:14 AM

Title: Coloured images of the Byzantine 'Rome or David Casket'
Post by: Druzhina on 02 May 2015, 02:27:14 AM
I have mentioned the Rome or David Casket, Byzantine, 898 or 900AD (http://www.warfare.altervista.org/6-10/Rome_or_David_Casket.htm) before. I now have some large coloured images of this.

Murder of the priests and the women and children of Nob (soldiers equipped as Byzantines) (http://www.warfare.altervista.org/6-10/Rome_or_David_Casket-front-top.htm) on the front of the Rome or David Casket (http://www.warfare.altervista.org/6-10/Rome_or_David_Casket-front.htm)

Most of the Byzantine soldiers are on the back of the Rome or David Casket (http://www.warfare.altervista.org/6-10/Rome_or_David_Casket-back.htm):
David showing Saul's severed garment (with Byzantine soldiers behind him) (http://www.warfare.altervista.org/6-10/Rome_or_David_Casket-garment.htm) on the lid.
David in combat with Goliath (as a Byzantine soldier with spear and round shield (http://www.warfare.altervista.org/6-10/Rome_or_David_Casket-David_Goliath.htm)

(http://www.warfare.altervista.org/6-10/Rome_or_David_Casket-Israelites_th.jpg)
Israelite soldiers (as Byzantines) watching David beheading Goliath (http://www.warfare.altervista.org/6-10/Rome_or_David_Casket-Israelites.htm)
Rome or David Casket, David beheading Goliath (with an inside view of his Byzantine helmet) (http://www.warfare.altervista.org/6-10/Rome_or_David_Casket-Beheading.htm)
Philistine soldiers (as Byzantines) dismayed at the defeat of Goliath (http://www.warfare.altervista.org/6-10/Rome_or_David_Casket-Philistines.htm)
On the left top of the casket:
David receiving the show bread and Goliath's armour from Abimelech (with a soldier with almond-shaped shield) (http://www.warfare.altervista.org/6-10/Rome_or_David_Casket-left-top.htm)

Druzhina
10th Century Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers (http://www.warfare.altervista.org/10C.htm)
Title: Re: Coloured images of the Byzantine 'Rome or David Casket'
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 02 May 2015, 05:41:07 AM
Nice D
Title: Re: Coloured images of the Byzantine 'Rome or David Casket'
Post by: FierceKitty on 02 May 2015, 06:13:23 AM
How do you sever a garment?
Title: Re: Coloured images of the Byzantine 'Rome or David Casket'
Post by: Techno on 02 May 2015, 07:10:01 AM
Nice find again, D.
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Coloured images of the Byzantine 'Rome or David Casket'
Post by: Druzhina on 05 May 2015, 09:04:42 AM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 02 May 2015, 06:13:23 AM
How do you sever a garment?
With a knife or sword (while the wearer is sleeping in a cave).

Druzhina
Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers (http://www.warfare.altervista.org/index.htm)
Title: Re: Coloured images of the Byzantine 'Rome or David Casket'
Post by: FierceKitty on 05 May 2015, 09:23:31 AM
Still doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: Coloured images of the Byzantine 'Rome or David Casket'
Post by: Druzhina on 06 May 2015, 05:02:07 AM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 05 May 2015, 09:23:31 AM
Still doesn't make sense.
There are two stories of David having a chance to kill King Saul, but he does not. One story is:
1 Samuel 24 New International Version (NIV)
David Spares Saul's Life

24 [a]After Saul returned from pursuing the Philistines, he was told, "David is in the Desert of En Gedi." 2 So Saul took three thousand able young men from all Israel and set out to look for David and his men near the Crags of the Wild Goats.

3 He came to the sheep pens along the way; a cave was there, and Saul went in to relieve himself. David and his men were far back in the cave. 4 The men said, "This is the day the Lord spoke of when he said to you, 'I will give your enemy into your hands for you to deal with as you wish.'" Then David crept up unnoticed and cut off a corner of Saul's robe.

5 Afterward, David was conscience-stricken for having cut off a corner of his robe. 6 He said to his men, "The Lord forbid that I should do such a thing to my master, the Lord's anointed, or lay my hand on him; for he is the anointed of the Lord." 7 With these words David sharply rebuked his men and did not allow them to attack Saul. And Saul left the cave and went his way.

8 Then David went out of the cave and called out to Saul, "My lord the king!" When Saul looked behind him, David bowed down and prostrated himself with his face to the ground. 9 He said to Saul, "Why do you listen when men say, 'David is bent on harming you'? 10 This day you have seen with your own eyes how the Lord delivered you into my hands in the cave. Some urged me to kill you, but I spared you; I said, 'I will not lay my hand on my lord, because he is the Lord's anointed.' 11 See, my father, look at this piece of your robe in my hand! I cut off the corner of your robe but did not kill you. See that there is nothing in my hand to indicate that I am guilty of wrongdoing or rebellion. I have not wronged you, but you are hunting me down to take my life. 12 May the Lord judge between you and me. And may the Lord avenge the wrongs you have done to me, but my hand will not touch you. 13 As the old saying goes, 'From evildoers come evil deeds,' so my hand will not touch you.

Druzhina
9th Century Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers (http://www.warfare.altervista.org/9C.htm)
Title: Re: Coloured images of the Byzantine 'Rome or David Casket'
Post by: FierceKitty on 06 May 2015, 05:37:02 AM
A severed portion of a garment; that I can understand. Though, mind you, Saul being Jewish, worse knife work had already been his lot.
Title: Re: Coloured images of the Byzantine 'Rome or David Casket'
Post by: Druzhina on 08 May 2015, 09:18:06 AM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 06 May 2015, 05:37:02 AM
A severed portion of a garment; that I can understand. Though, mind you, Saul being Jewish, worse knife work had already been his lot.

Ah, I see what you were trying to say, but your question 'How do you sever a garment?" sent me on another tack.

Druzhina
11th Century Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers (http://www.warfare.altervista.org/11C.htm)
Title: Re: Coloured images of the Byzantine 'Rome or David Casket'
Post by: Ithoriel on 08 May 2015, 12:05:30 PM
Since you clearly get a severed portion of a garment by severing it I still have no idea what point FK was making.

I assume some clever linguistic point is what's making that whooshing sound over my head.