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Wider Wargaming => Genre/Period Discussion => Ancients to Renaissance (3000BC - 1680) => Topic started by: MattW on 24 April 2015, 10:55:43 PM

Title: Problem with Polish Winged Hussars...
Post by: MattW on 24 April 2015, 10:55:43 PM
Hi guys,

A mate and I recently received our order from Pendraken, and I only just got around to examining my half of the stuff (was moving house).

Unfortunately almost half of my hussars didn't survive the trip, and had their lances snap off on the way over. A few more are seriously bent and probably won't survive too much gaming. Does anyone have some tips on the best way to replace these? It's a pretty disappointing ratio of survivors to non-survivors. Does the dual-winged hussar have a thicker lance? Everything else arrived in excellent condition.


Cheers,

Matt
Title: Re: Problem with Polish Winged Hussars...
Post by: paulr on 24 April 2015, 11:00:35 PM
I suspect Leon will have some helpful suggestions once they are back from Salute
Title: Re: Problem with Polish Winged Hussars...
Post by: FierceKitty on 25 April 2015, 12:17:26 AM
Dp yourself a favour and replace the lances with copper wire from day one. I wished I'd done that, came the time when I had to replace the lot (and their lovingly-painted pennants).
Title: Re: Problem with Polish Winged Hussars...
Post by: MattW on 25 April 2015, 01:19:29 AM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 25 April 2015, 12:17:26 AM
Dp yourself a favour and replace the lances with copper wire from day one. I wished I'd done that, came the time when I had to replace the lot (and their lovingly-painted pennants).

I thought this might be the solution... But what size drill bit should I use in my pin vice? And what size of wire?

I'm not sure that I trust the steadiness of my hands for such a job  ;D

Cheers
Title: Re: Problem with Polish Winged Hussars...
Post by: FierceKitty on 25 April 2015, 01:29:55 AM
I filed off the right hand and connected the new lance with epoxy glue. That painted up into an acceptable hand, by my considerably-less-than-Venetian-renaissance standards.
Title: Re: Problem with Polish Winged Hussars...
Post by: MattW on 25 April 2015, 02:37:45 AM
Thanks for that, it's worth a shot at least!
Title: Re: Problem with Polish Winged Hussars...
Post by: FierceKitty on 25 April 2015, 02:55:24 AM
Be patient. They're a joy to behold once painted, and a very responsive army if you use them correctly. Just be careful of Swedish or Imperial pike-and-shot formations and Cossack waggon forts.
Title: Re: Problem with Polish Winged Hussars...
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 25 April 2015, 06:01:37 AM
.6mm and 30 pound fishing line...
Title: Re: Problem with Polish Winged Hussars...
Post by: Hertsblue on 26 April 2015, 01:56:05 PM
The great advantage of plastic rod (as opposed to metal) is that they spring back into shape when bent. And they don't cause small but painful wounds when you handle them.
Title: Re: Problem with Polish Winged Hussars...
Post by: Leon on 26 April 2015, 09:53:58 PM
The P1 Polish Winged Hussars are unfortunately prone to bending, especially when shipped internationally.  We can always send some replacements over for you, but there's always the risk they'll end up the same way.   :(  The P16 2-Winged version comes open-handed, so you add your own lance onto that one.

As far as fixing them goes, clip off the excess lance (above the pommel maybe?) and then as Lemmey says a .6mm drill bit should be enough to drill down through the hand.  You can then use a bit of .6mm wire, plastic rod, or even the plactic bristles from a sweeping brush.
Title: Re: Problem with Polish Winged Hussars...
Post by: DanJ on 27 April 2015, 08:34:38 AM
Hi,

I replace all cast on lead spears and lances with steel or brass subsitutes.

For 10mm figures a standard dress makers pin with the head removed and the point hammered flat are just about perfect.

Step 1: remove old spear

Step 2: prepare spear

Step 3: drill figure for new spear, a 0.6mm drill is the ideal size for a steel pin.

Step 4: superglue new spear in place and add any flags/pennants as required.

(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa242/danandsan/IMG_5899.jpg) (http://s198.photobucket.com/user/danandsan/media/IMG_5899.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Problem with Polish Winged Hussars...
Post by: Leman on 27 April 2015, 03:54:07 PM
Problems with polish? Winged hussars to the rescue, brandishing cans of Brasso.
Title: Re: Problem with Polish Winged Hussars...
Post by: DanJ on 27 April 2015, 04:09:44 PM
QuoteThe great advantage of plastic rod (as opposed to metal) is that they spring back into shape when bent. And they don't cause small but painful wounds when you handle them.

The advantage of the steel pin solution is that they don't bend but they do inflict terrible wounds on opponents foolish enough to mishandle your figures, my pike blocks are notorious  ;)

They might decry my gaming ability, mock my painting but by jingo they respect the spears.
Title: Re: Problem with Polish Winged Hussars...
Post by: Leman on 27 April 2015, 04:43:17 PM
Politely but firmly ignored again..........sigh.
Title: Re: Problem with Polish Winged Hussars...
Post by: Maenoferren on 27 April 2015, 05:07:27 PM
Quote from: Leman on 27 April 2015, 04:43:17 PM
Politely but firmly ignored again..........sigh.
If it makes you feel any better....
  ;D
Title: Re: Problem with Polish Winged Hussars...
Post by: Leman on 27 April 2015, 06:52:47 PM
Thanks.  :-[
Title: Re: Problem with Polish Winged Hussars...
Post by: Techno on 28 April 2015, 06:51:52 AM
And here's your coat.  ;)
Cheers - Phil