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Title: Commemorative napoleonic playing cards
Post by: Norm on 14 April 2015, 11:50:39 AM
I have just bought a pack of commemorative playing cards for the 200th anniversary of Waterloo. Each card (not just the royals) has a Waterloo related picture on it.

Great for collectors and ideal for anyone who uses normal playing cards in their wargames and would like to use something wargame themed.

Some details on my blog LINK - http://battlefieldswarriors.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Waterloo%20200

Title: Re: Commemorative napoleonic playing cards
Post by: getagrip on 14 April 2015, 11:55:57 AM
They're a nice commemorative piece. :)
Title: Re: Commemorative napoleonic playing cards
Post by: Westmarcher on 14 April 2015, 12:26:02 PM
I get the feeling now that the momentum is gathering now in the lead up to the anniversary and looking forward to more of this kind of thing coming up. The cards are interesting and we were lamenting the other night in the house that we no longer had a pack of playing cards in the house. However, I would have preferred a more dynamic image on the rear of the cards - you know, some sort of action scene like the charge of the Scots Greys, the French cavalry attack with British squares or at Hougoumont or street fighting in Plancenoit. By the way, couldn't immediately see where the cards were for sale on the Waterloo200.org website. Nevertheless, an interesting site to dip into later when time allows.

P.S. As for using the cards in a war-game, we used to use ordinary playing cards in the days of simultaneous moving and firing to determine who pulled the trigger first as it were.  
Title: Re: Commemorative napoleonic playing cards
Post by: mollinary on 14 April 2015, 12:28:33 PM
Got mine at the local Waterstones.

Mollinary
Title: Re: Commemorative napoleonic playing cards
Post by: Ithoriel on 14 April 2015, 03:16:25 PM
Not sure if these should be mentioned here or on the Top totty thread :)

Napoleonic pin-up playing cards (http://www.fighting15sshop.co.uk/napoleonic-pin-up-girls-playing-cards-two-deck-set-6733-p.asp)
Title: Re: Commemorative napoleonic playing cards
Post by: Norm on 14 April 2015, 05:05:19 PM
They can be bought here (below) as can a load of other cards - i never knew there was such a collectors world of cards, really interesting.

LINK - http://www.birdplayingcards.com/collection.php

Title: Re: Commemorative napoleonic playing cards
Post by: Subedai on 14 April 2015, 05:30:13 PM
They are nice. Not too sure about 'both sides' from Waterloo being represented though, I was always under the impression that the Prussians were there as well.

Anyone remember the ACW set from back in the day, the one with the replica money and bubble-gum in? I believe they did a WW II set as well. Bit graphic if memory serves.
Title: Re: Commemorative napoleonic playing cards
Post by: Ithoriel on 14 April 2015, 05:48:15 PM
Don't remember the WW2 version but I still have a couple of the Confederate "dollars" that came with them.
Title: Re: Commemorative napoleonic playing cards
Post by: mollinary on 14 April 2015, 06:40:27 PM
Quote from: Subedai on 14 April 2015, 05:30:13 PM
They are nice. Not too sure about 'both sides' from Waterloo being represented though, I was always under the impression that the Prussians were there as well.

Anyone remember the ACW set from back in the day, the one with the replica money and bubble-gum in? I believe they did a WW II set as well. Bit graphic if memory serves.

Yes, I remember both of those from my Primary School Days!  The ACW ones were very graphic colour artwork, the WW2 were black and white photos. I remember stories of people successfully exchanging the Confederate notes at banks at dollar/pound exchange rates! We used to swap to try and complete collections, I seem to remember giving about thirty cards for the last one I needed for the set.

Mollinary
Title: Re: Commemorative napoleonic playing cards
Post by: getagrip on 14 April 2015, 07:01:09 PM
Anyone remember rifling through a huge stack of cards as your potential swapee went:  "got...got...got...got..."

Happy days. :)
Title: Re: Commemorative napoleonic playing cards
Post by: Westmarcher on 14 April 2015, 07:10:32 PM
Yep. Until mentioned, I'd forgotten about these! In retrospect, a good introduction to these historical periods. They must have been re-released several times. Chewing gum was rubbish and, yes, some of the ACW card images were very graphic (one sticks in my mind - did it portray an artillery limber running over the bloody stump of some soldier's leg?). There was also The Man From U.N.C.L.E. set.  Happy days, indeed. 8->
Title: Re: Commemorative napoleonic playing cards
Post by: Norm on 14 April 2015, 07:12:17 PM
I bought a second pack today. I can see these getting a lot of use.
Title: Re: Commemorative napoleonic playing cards
Post by: mollinary on 14 April 2015, 07:14:38 PM
Quote from: Westmarcher on 14 April 2015, 07:10:32 PM
Yep. Until mentioned, I'd forgotten about these! In retrospect, a good introduction to these historical periods. They must have been re-released several times. Chewing gum was rubbish and, yes, some of the ACW card images were very graphic (one sticks in my mind - did it portray an artillery limber running over the bloody stump of some soldier's leg?). There was also The Man From U.N.C.L.E. set.  Happy days, indeed. 8->

Yes, I remember the artillery limber - also I think someone impaled on a chevaux de frise?

Mollinary
Title: Re: Commemorative napoleonic playing cards
Post by: Bernie on 14 April 2015, 07:18:42 PM
Not forgetting the MARS ATTACKS set
Title: Re: Commemorative napoleonic playing cards
Post by: T13A on 14 April 2015, 07:51:20 PM
I remember the ACW set well, wish I still had them now. I was at primary school and they came out to mark the 100th anniversary. Also one of the reasons the ACW has always been the period I always go back to. Mollinary - I seem to remember the one you are referring to was about the battle of Champions Hill.

Cheers Paul
Title: Re: Commemorative napoleonic playing cards
Post by: Westmarcher on 14 April 2015, 07:55:45 PM
Quote from: mollinary on 14 April 2015, 07:14:38 PM
Yes, I remember the artillery limber - also I think someone impaled on a chevaux de frise?

Yep. I think you're right! Didn't they realise how much this would be imprinted on our young minds? But did it do us any long term harm? (damn! .. what have I said? .... sshhh, getagrip!)  #-o
Quote from: Bernie on 14 April 2015, 07:18:42 PM
Not forgetting the MARS ATTACKS set

Sorry, Bernie. After my time - but fun to know that the genre carried on!  :D

T13 - Would be so nostalgic seeing them again.
Title: Re: Commemorative napoleonic playing cards
Post by: T13A on 14 April 2015, 08:04:08 PM
Sorry for hijacking this thread but re. ACW cards check this out:

http://www.oldbubblegumcards.com/1960s/Civil-War-News/index.html

Oh memories....

Cheers Paul
Title: Re: Commemorative napoleonic playing cards
Post by: getagrip on 14 April 2015, 08:19:42 PM
Quote from: T13A on 14 April 2015, 08:04:08 PM
Sorry for hijacking this thread but re. ACW cards check this out:

http://www.oldbubblegumcards.com/1960s/Civil-War-News/index.html

Oh memories....

Cheers Paul

Woah, they are bloody! :o
Title: Re: Commemorative napoleonic playing cards
Post by: mollinary on 14 April 2015, 08:21:10 PM
Quote from: Westmarcher on 14 April 2015, 07:55:45 PM
Yep. I think you're right! Didn't they realise how much this would be imprinted on our young minds? But did it do us any long term harm? (damn! .. what have I said? .... sshhh, getagrip!)  #-o
Sorry, Bernie. After my time - but fun to know that the genre carried on!  :D

T13 - Would be so nostalgic seeing them again.

I think the Mars Attacks cards may have been marginally  before your time!  I recall having a few, and then they were banned for being outrageously gory, and my parents confiscated the few I had! I think it was very much about the same time, possibly with the Mars Attacks ones slightly earlier. We are talking c1962, I think.

Mollinary

Title: Re: Commemorative napoleonic playing cards
Post by: Westmarcher on 14 April 2015, 08:29:44 PM
Quote from: T13A on 14 April 2015, 08:04:08 PM
Sorry for hijacking this thread but re. ACW cards check this out .........
Brilliant find T13! Some absolute crackers there! Didn't remember just how graphic the images were in that series.  :o

Quote from: mollinary on 14 April 2015, 08:21:10 PM
I think the Mars Attacks cards may have been marginally  before your time!  I recall having a few, and then they were banned for being outrageously gory, and my parents confiscated the few I had! I think it was very much about the same time, possibly with the Mars Attacks ones slightly earlier. We are talking c1962, I think.

Interesting. Didn't realise they were that early (was thinking of the 1996 'Mars Attacks!' movie). Being marginally before my time is about right. I was 8 in 1962 and don't remember encountering bubble cards until I was a little older. 
Title: Re: Commemorative napoleonic playing cards
Post by: mollinary on 14 April 2015, 08:35:50 PM
Quote from: Westmarcher on 14 April 2015, 08:29:44 PM
Brilliant find T13! Some absolute crackers there! Didn't remember just how graphic the images were in that series.  :o

Interesting. Didn't realise they were that early (was thinking of the 1996 'Mars Attacks!' movie). Being marginally before my time is about right. I was 8 in 1962 and don't remember encountering bubble cards until I was a little older. 

I was also 8 in 1962, and was just encountering them!

Mollinary
Title: Re: Commemorative napoleonic playing cards
Post by: Techno on 14 April 2015, 08:47:23 PM
I was 9 in '62.

Have to admit, I thought I'd collected the whole set......as near as.....But looking through the thumbnails, there were only a couple out of the 20 or so I looked at, that looked really familiar.

They were rather gory !

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Commemorative napoleonic playing cards
Post by: getagrip on 14 April 2015, 08:49:28 PM
Quote from: Techno on 14 April 2015, 08:47:23 PM

They were rather gory !


Aspirational then? :D
Title: Re: Commemorative napoleonic playing cards
Post by: mollinary on 14 April 2015, 09:15:55 PM
Quote from: Techno on 14 April 2015, 08:47:23 PM
I was 9 in '62.

Have to admit, I thought I'd collected the whole set......as near as.....But looking through the thumbnails, there were only a couple out of the 20 or so I looked at, that looked really familiar.

They were rather gory !

Cheers - Phil


I still remember that the last one I got was the First Battle of Bull Run card!  Why? Beats me!  :D

Mollinary
Title: Re: Commemorative napoleonic playing cards
Post by: Techno on 15 April 2015, 05:55:51 AM
The one that I really recognised was the chap impaled on the spiky 'fence'.
What were those barricades called ?

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Commemorative napoleonic playing cards
Post by: FierceKitty on 15 April 2015, 07:13:08 AM
Chevaux de friese? Abatis? Spanish riders? Palisade?
Title: Re: Commemorative napoleonic playing cards
Post by: Techno on 15 April 2015, 07:24:43 AM
Googling images of the above......

Chevaux de friese appears to be the one I was after......Or are the terms, in any way, 'interchangeable' ?
Thanks, Kitty.
Cheers - Phil

Title: Re: Commemorative napoleonic playing cards
Post by: FierceKitty on 15 April 2015, 07:29:53 AM
I suspect they shared an office and borrowed each other's socks quite often, at least.
Title: Re: Commemorative napoleonic playing cards
Post by: getagrip on 15 April 2015, 07:54:19 AM
Quote from: Techno on 15 April 2015, 07:24:43 AM
Googling images of the above......

Chevaux de friese appears to be the one I was after......Or are the terms, in any way, 'interchangeable' ?
Thanks, Kitty.
Cheers - Phil



Chevaux de Frise is the correct spelling.

Sorry to go all "FK" on everyone. :-[
Title: Re: Commemorative napoleonic playing cards
Post by: getagrip on 15 April 2015, 08:06:30 AM
PD do them.

Here:

http://www.pendraken.co.uk/OT19-p5520/
Title: Re: Commemorative napoleonic playing cards
Post by: Rob on 15 April 2015, 08:40:48 AM
Quote from: T13A on 14 April 2015, 08:04:08 PM
Sorry for hijacking this thread but re. ACW cards check this out:

http://www.oldbubblegumcards.com/1960s/Civil-War-News/index.html

Oh memories....

Cheers Paul
Wow! Thanks for that Paul, that brought some memories flooding back. I use to buy one every day on the way to school.

I was trying to remember the cost. Had to be less than 6d because I remember a Timpo indian or cowboy from the paper shop was a few days school money. They were at the time 6d for a foot figure and 1s3d for a mounted. Its strange what sticks in the memory! When I was looking through those ACW cards on your link I could smell the chewing gum as you opened the packet.  :-\

They influenced me to buy Britains ACW figures and play soldiers, so they cannot have been all bad.  :)

Cheers, Rob
Title: Re: Commemorative napoleonic playing cards
Post by: T13A on 15 April 2015, 01:49:51 PM
Rob

Did we go to the same school?  ;)

Mine had a toy shop 2 doors down from the school entrance (the sweet shop selling the bubble gum cards was next to it) selling lots of different toy soldiers, including the Timpo ones you mentioned. Between the toy shop and a dad and uncle who both served in the war I never had a chance wargamming wise!

Cheers Paul
Title: Re: Commemorative napoleonic playing cards
Post by: jambo1 on 15 April 2015, 04:06:45 PM
I had pretty near the whole set of the ACW cards, they were brilliant!! They were super gory for primary school kids, all my mates collected and swapped them.
Title: Re: Commemorative napoleonic playing cards
Post by: Rob on 15 April 2015, 11:16:32 PM
Quote from: T13A on 15 April 2015, 01:49:51 PM
Rob

Did we go to the same school?  ;)

Mine had a toy shop 2 doors down from the school entrance (the sweet shop selling the bubble gum cards was next to it) selling lots of different toy soldiers, including the Timpo ones you mentioned. Between the toy shop and a dad and uncle who both served in the war I never had a chance wargamming wise!

Cheers Paul
=O =O Sounds like it  :D. The Timpo stuff was pretty rubbish, I tried to get Britains Swappets when I could  :) http://www.collectors-club-of-great-britain.co.uk/Features/Britains-Herald-Swoppets-Price-Guide/_ft1781 (http://www.collectors-club-of-great-britain.co.uk/Features/Britains-Herald-Swoppets-Price-Guide/_ft1781)

:)