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Title: Minibits custom hex board progress
Post by: Si Tyler on 06 April 2015, 02:53:14 PM
I haven't painted anything 10mm for ages but have finally managed to get around to start work on the custom minibits terrain boards

This is all 20 boards laid out. 88 inches long by 55 inches wide if I wanted to use all of them in one go. This is with just the base coats added. I need to finish off the sand texture on the rough ground, add the ridge lines in and then work on the target and AAA hexes.  Halong Bay also needs finishing off as I haven't done the islands or marshes yet.

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-AkqU26tOx1s/VSJVV4emyPI/AAAAAAAAF0s/2H5Er_8CxXs/s640/blogger-image--1509377493.jpg)

This is a shot of a game in progress using just six boards replicating the Northwest Railroad photo recce route.  Yen Bai in the Northwest corner to Hanoi.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ESWiyavssjk/VSKbnu9H5QI/AAAAAAAAF1M/lYtJ6J28K3o/s640/blogger-image--251087080.jpg)
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Post by: cbr3d.com on 06 April 2015, 02:56:38 PM
Looking impressive already.   :)
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Post by: jambo1 on 06 April 2015, 04:13:34 PM
Wow!! very impressive. :-bd
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Post by: Steve J on 06 April 2015, 04:14:49 PM
Looing good to me Si.
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Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 06 April 2015, 04:34:44 PM
Awesome Si! 8)
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Post by: ronan on 06 April 2015, 08:34:13 PM
wonderful !  =D>
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Post by: paulr on 06 April 2015, 10:44:12 PM
 :-bd =D> :-bd
Title: Re: Minibits custom hex board progress
Post by: Leon on 07 April 2015, 12:50:49 AM
Good to see these again, nice work!

8)
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Post by: Techno on 07 April 2015, 06:39:33 AM
That really does look excellent already ! :-bd
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Minibits custom hex board progress
Post by: GordonY on 07 April 2015, 06:52:22 AM
Remember to paint in Thud Ridge.  :P
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Post by: Maenoferren on 07 April 2015, 08:57:51 AM
Pretty impressive :)
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Post by: getagrip on 07 April 2015, 09:01:08 AM
Wow!  Just wow! =D>
Title: Re: Minibits custom hex board progress
Post by: Si Tyler on 07 April 2015, 09:53:35 AM
QuoteRemember to paint in Thud Ridge
Thud Ridge is the long finger pointing towards Hanoi from the LHS of the map. Need to put the ridge line features on a couple of hex sides (which have an effect on game play).  Phantom Ridge is the one coming down from Haiphong and Banana Valley is on the bottom right

Thanks for the comments.  This took about three days of work to get it to where it is now.  I have made a start on the Hanoi area in terms of adding the detail to the target hexes.  My idea is that the target hexes, which correspond to the AAA zones, will be in a brown/green mottle as will the surrounding barrage zones just to make it easier to see.  Painting these boards up has been straight forward and without any warping issues.  I just ran out of sand to do the chinese buffer zone and the areas around Haiphong so will get those done over the coming weeks.  As I am back at work I will only get about half a day so will only progress a couple of hexes a day as well as hopefully getting some games in
Title: Re: Minibits custom hex board progress
Post by: GordonY on 07 April 2015, 10:27:59 AM
Looks superb, makes me wanna order some SAM sites and actually have a game of Thud Ridge (a set of rules from Tumbling Dice), as usual bought the rules & planes, painted them then shoved them in a box. Now which box was it?  :-\ :-\
Title: Re: Minibits custom hex board progress
Post by: Hertsblue on 07 April 2015, 10:33:33 AM
That's some project, Sy. Congratulations on a brilliant job.
Title: Re: Minibits custom hex board progress
Post by: Si Tyler on 07 April 2015, 10:44:24 AM
Thud Ridge was the game that got me into this to start with.  More aligned to 1:1 represenation that a raid with 40+ aircraft involved.

Try these pages out which are my random Thud Ridge musings

http://cag19.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Rules%20-%20Thud%20Ridge (http://cag19.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Rules%20-%20Thud%20Ridge)

Title: Re: Minibits custom hex board progress
Post by: Si Tyler on 07 April 2015, 11:34:34 AM
Work on the Hanoi area from last night.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-92_bO4Ua8BQ/VSPAf5XEoaI/AAAAAAAAF5Q/NVTJRyNehLA/s640/IMG_0230.JPG)
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Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 07 April 2015, 11:37:58 AM
Wow
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Post by: toxicpixie on 07 April 2015, 12:20:17 PM
That's looking excellent - like those town sectors, think they'll pan out very nicely!
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Post by: getagrip on 07 April 2015, 12:21:42 PM
Quote from: toxicpixie on 07 April 2015, 12:20:17 PM
That's looking excellent - like those town sectors, think they'll pan out very nicely!

Agree completely,  the scale is fantastic.
Title: Re: Minibits custom hex board progress
Post by: Si Tyler on 07 April 2015, 12:34:20 PM
The Hanoi area is still WIP.  You can just about make out the sketch lines.  THe one that sits in between the two airfields and Paul Doumer bridge will almost be completely filled with squares and rectangles, and the one to the North West has a large area that will also need filling in.  

There is a smaller area to do in between the two bridges and the ones heading out towards the Phuc Yen (No Bai) airfield are single components.

Haven't decided how to paint these yet. Tempted to do white sides with orange roofs. Might have a scout round for some air to ground pictures of the region
Title: Re: Minibits custom hex board progress
Post by: getagrip on 07 April 2015, 12:50:13 PM
Quote from: Si Tyler on 07 April 2015, 12:34:20 PM
The Hanoi area is still WIP.  You can just about make out the sketch lines.  THe one that sits in between the two airfields and Paul Doumer bridge will almost be completely filled with squares and rectangles, and the one to the North West has a large area that will also need filling in.  

There is a smaller area to do in between the two bridges and the ones heading out towards the Phuc Yen (No Bai) airfield are single components.

Haven't decided how to paint these yet. Tempted to do white sides with orange roofs. Might have a scout round for some air to ground pictures of the region

Could try and get an aerial photo from the same height and mimic what you see. :-\
Title: Re: Minibits custom hex board progress
Post by: Si Tyler on 08 April 2015, 10:02:35 AM
Hanoi and environs completed need to get on with the painting and adding in the roads and rivers
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-yG5NFtIYrEM/VST6-XaCdXI/AAAAAAAAF9I/gmlsTH0Ke8Q/s640/blogger-image-1808293299.jpg)
Title: Re: Minibits custom hex board progress
Post by: getagrip on 08 April 2015, 02:13:29 PM
Absolutely love this; so clever! =D>
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Post by: Womble67 on 08 April 2015, 09:59:03 PM
This looks absolutely brilliant

Take care

Andy
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Post by: Maenoferren on 09 April 2015, 09:37:09 PM
Looking good
Title: Re: Minibits custom hex board progress
Post by: Techno on 10 April 2015, 05:37:46 AM
It certainly is !!  8)
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Minibits custom hex board progress
Post by: Hertsblue on 10 April 2015, 08:19:04 AM
Coming along nicely. Are you going to add any physical features, other than roads and rivers?
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Post by: bigjackmac on 10 April 2015, 01:49:21 PM
Looking fantastic.

Gordon - I've got the Thud Ridge rules, too, but also never played them.  I like them, they have some interesting mechanisms and are pretty straightforward. 

V/R,
Jack
Title: Re: Minibits custom hex board progress
Post by: GordonY on 10 April 2015, 04:34:52 PM
I was looking for something like Bag the Hun but with jets and missiles, plus just like me it was cheap  ;)
Title: Re: Minibits custom hex board progress
Post by: bigjackmac on 11 April 2015, 01:39:55 AM
Gordon - I'm hurrying, man  :D :D

V/R,
Jack
Title: Re: Minibits custom hex board progress
Post by: Shecky on 11 April 2015, 04:26:48 AM
Are the hex boards available on the minibits website or did you special order them? I may have missed it, how big are the hexes?

I can think of a number of uses for the hex boards - none of which involve keeping money in my wallet. :)
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Post by: Le Manchou on 11 April 2015, 05:13:50 AM
Very impressive!
Title: Re: Minibits custom hex board progress
Post by: Leon on 11 April 2015, 06:59:21 AM
Quote from: Shecky on 11 April 2015, 04:26:48 AM
Are the hex boards available on the minibits website or did you special order them? I may have missed it, how big are the hexes?

These were a custom job, although really I should add a section to the website so that we can list handy things like these.
Title: Re: Minibits custom hex board progress
Post by: Si Tyler on 14 April 2015, 09:28:20 AM
QuoteComing along nicely. Are you going to add any physical features, other than roads and rivers?

Terrain and Features.

Roads
Railways
Rivers/Canals
Built up areas
runways
installations
Beach
Marsh
Rough ground

As they are all for my aircraft to fly over they are being kept in low relief.

Painted sand for the rough ground. Need to add the ridge lines in and delineate the hex sides on the large areas of rough ground
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-D-ch8N5krQA/VSvsQscRK9I/AAAAAAAAGIk/-pcvTnoRlsM/s640/blogger-image-1899468313.jpg)

plasticard representations of buildings and bridges.  You can just make out the two bridges which are about 1mm high in this photo.
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-yG5NFtIYrEM/VST6-XaCdXI/AAAAAAAAF9I/gmlsTH0Ke8Q/s640/blogger-image-1808293299.jpg)
Just starting work on the Haiphong area

QuoteAre the hex boards available on the minibits website or did you special order them? I may have missed it, how big are the hexes?
There was a discussion on the minibits section about custom MDF work.  Leon and I then developed these back and forth trying different orientation and combination of hexes and then Leon sent me a pair of test pieces to confirm before I placed my order.  These are 38mm across flats which is about 1 1/2" so are fine for jet aircraft.  The larger twin engined support aircraft make it a bit crowded.  As there were 20 boards made up I arranged to collect from show rather than risk damage in the post.

In game shot using the boards
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ayT58cUgMe0/VSo9Z3owGsI/AAAAAAAAGFQ/8xl8McEWT0E/s1600/IMG_0252.JPG)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-33xSz9Wdq9A/VSo9suDeepI/AAAAAAAAGFY/JRXwzSef3K4/s1600/IMG_0253.JPG)

Title: Re: Minibits custom hex board progress
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 14 April 2015, 06:44:29 PM
Wow! :)
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Post by: toxicpixie on 14 April 2015, 06:55:21 PM
Lookin good! How bugs the total table area?
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Post by: getagrip on 14 April 2015, 06:58:18 PM
That's just awesome!

=D> =D> =D>
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Post by: Womble67 on 14 April 2015, 08:55:37 PM
Just brilliant

Take care

Andy
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Post by: Techno on 14 April 2015, 08:56:01 PM
That is really excellent !  :-bd
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Minibits custom hex board progress
Post by: Si Tyler on 15 April 2015, 08:48:58 AM
Each component board is 8 hexes across by 15 hexes long.  When all 20 are put together it is 232cm x 133cm (if I measured it correctly yesterday) or 55 inches by 88 Inches which is 4' 9" x 7' 4").

I have just started work on the Haiphong area which is the next set of targets needed and I hope to get some more shots up tonight plus another game flying a US Navy strike against Kep and Vu Cha which are on the top half of the boards.  No SAMs needed so can get away only using the top 10 boards.  My plan is that as I fly a mission I will do the detailing on the boards used to try and keep progress moving along.
Title: Re: Minibits custom hex board progress
Post by: toxicpixie on 15 April 2015, 08:59:21 AM
Nice, Si - that's a big area :)

And two of those hex sets would make a Battletech board, I think...

Good luck cracking on!
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Post by: Bodvoc on 15 April 2015, 09:19:00 AM
Not my period but looks awesome!
Title: Re: Minibits custom hex board progress
Post by: Si Tyler on 15 April 2015, 04:01:17 PM
Started on the Haiphong board. The rivers need to be lightened up using gloss brown in the middle of the channels and I also need to work on the sea and beach hexes.  Built up area is all cut out and will get added tonight.
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-65YVG5g_CKM/VS6Kqb-6faI/AAAAAAAAGJc/UCBr_-nwpOo/s640/blogger-image-262048668.jpg)
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Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 15 April 2015, 04:05:59 PM
Why the beach?
Charlie don't surf! ;)
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Post by: getagrip on 15 April 2015, 04:51:41 PM
That's brilliant Si. :-bd
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Post by: Si Tyler on 15 April 2015, 05:01:30 PM
QuoteWhy the beach?
Charlie don't surf! Wink
My bad, the beach is actually mud flats. In the game they are treated as sea hexes so not really important. So that will slip until the very end. Not convinced on the green shade for the sea, so might have a mess around later.

As I am just planning to Fly the D2 - Beginnings mission it means that the 5/02 board is in need of some serious work as it borders the Haiphong one and looks odd next to it, plus it has two flak zones which need work. So tonight's job might be that board first and the 3/03 which also has two AAA hexes on it.  Never said this was going to be easy. Worst case is that I might trace out some of the rivers in pencil ready for tomorrow night
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-3EMXhncHkKo/VS6a31jk2oI/AAAAAAAAGJs/D1L-XA-QjPs/s640/blogger-image-14807850.jpg)
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Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 15 April 2015, 05:20:52 PM
That is so brilliant
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Post by: fred. on 15 April 2015, 06:37:04 PM
This is very cool. The board with the extra detailing looks great.

Are you doing the AA hexes directly on the map, or as separate hexes that can be placed as needed?
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Post by: getagrip on 15 April 2015, 07:15:37 PM
Bravo!   =D> =D> =D>
Title: Re: Minibits custom hex board progress
Post by: Si Tyler on 15 April 2015, 08:10:38 PM
AAA exists in two forms. There are fixed batteries which are always active. These tend to be at important or frequent targets so I am placing those directly on the playing surface. Scenario specific AAA and targets will be on moveable prices which is how I used to do all the targets and AAA.  It is do much easier and quicker with modelled on features.

I have changed the green rivers to a green-brown which I am a lot happier with. VJ Field Drab mixed with gloss varnish. Will need a second coat
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-VEv-DePRpFo/VS7GPfkycYI/AAAAAAAAGJ8/8XrItqm5WZA/s640/blogger-image--1732732168.jpg)
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Post by: Techno on 15 April 2015, 08:15:11 PM
Really does look damn good !!  :-bd
Cheers - Phil
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Post by: Si Tyler on 16 April 2015, 02:44:31 PM
As part of my 20 minute a day challenge I have added a little bit to the boards since last night, but no where near the amount of inroad I made early in the project.  I have done some more work on the rivers and shoreline to the North East of Haiphong.  The brown over green I think is my preferred way of doing the rivers.  I will also add some of the brown to the shore line and then graduate the sea colour in.  But that will be a while yet.

What I do think this means is however that I only have 3 target hexes to add in which means I can concentrate on the painting after the weekend

Work on the row 3 boards 03 and 05 as far as I have got.
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-eKbh34JJUsg/VS_IzHdMqTI/AAAAAAAAGLs/L51RA_mo_IY/s1600/IMG_0268.JPG)

Hai Doung and Me Xa bridges
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-cksPZHDn46k/VS_IzJ4OlVI/AAAAAAAAGLs/_H5fxF2rc3w/s1600/IMG_0267.JPG)

Thai Binh and Nam Dinh target and AAA hexes
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-saWBJZmPD_I/VS_IzOjlaRI/AAAAAAAAGLs/m5m2DLneKHQ/s1600/IMG_0266.JPG)
Title: Re: Minibits custom hex board progress
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 16 April 2015, 04:57:48 PM
I think those are brilliant
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Post by: paulr on 16 April 2015, 07:31:57 PM
 :-bd =D> :-bd =D>

The brown over green rivers definitely works
Title: Re: Minibits custom hex board progress
Post by: Si Tyler on 17 April 2015, 12:43:49 PM
Bit of work done and a game played out over my lunch hour
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-TRexOh6evKE/VTD2PGagSSI/AAAAAAAAGQM/nAUAVjI9YHI/s1600/IMG_0272.JPG)

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-V7KyTMgSzec/VTD2PBNiIXI/AAAAAAAAGQM/YJl2RlnCCaM/s1600/IMG_0275.JPG)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-XNu-0lbrj2Y/VTD2PM_c7BI/AAAAAAAAGQM/-5PA84cj09w/s1600/IMG_0280.JPG)

More photos etc here http://cag19.blogspot.co.uk/2015/04/downtown-d2-aar.html (http://cag19.blogspot.co.uk/2015/04/downtown-d2-aar.html)
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Post by: Techno on 17 April 2015, 01:21:25 PM
That looks like SO much fun !!  :-bd
Cheers - Phil
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Post by: paulr on 17 April 2015, 08:58:28 PM
Those Migs look to be having a bad day ;)
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Post by: Hertsblue on 18 April 2015, 02:22:21 PM
Are your aircraft 1/300th or 1/600th? I would guess the former from the size of the hexes.
Title: Re: Minibits custom hex board progress
Post by: Si Tyler on 19 April 2015, 11:16:03 AM
1/600th.  The hexes are 38mm across the flats
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Post by: Hertsblue on 19 April 2015, 06:02:47 PM
Wow! I was sure they were 1/300th!
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Post by: paulr on 19 April 2015, 08:26:59 PM
1/600th :o

Impressive  :)
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Post by: Si Tyler on 20 April 2015, 07:24:02 AM
You might like these then :)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-MYznUDj1Zhc/U71fDkgTzhI/AAAAAAAAECI/S4DQ10f0kSQ/s1600/IMG_0210.JPG)
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-RF_dkxKdqx4/VAlhESQoamI/AAAAAAAAEyM/AmzSC9ETnS8/s1600/IMG_0557.JPG)

As this isn't a new project I have lots of enthusiasm for getting the terrain finished. I have spent ages working on the aircraft so I am able to get games in using the new terrain a lot quicker which in turn keeps up the enthusiasm and interest.
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Post by: getagrip on 20 April 2015, 08:08:38 AM
Amazing. :o

Really great project. =D>
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Post by: jambo1 on 20 April 2015, 08:58:27 AM
Wow!! those are great! m/
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Post by: Hertsblue on 20 April 2015, 09:43:03 AM
Excellent work, particularly at 1/600th.  :-bd
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Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 20 April 2015, 12:03:23 PM
Tumbling Dice again! :)
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Post by: paulr on 21 April 2015, 03:05:03 AM
 :-bd =D> :-bd =D> :-bd
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Post by: Techno on 21 April 2015, 05:29:41 AM
 :o :o :o :o
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Minibits custom hex board progress
Post by: Si Tyler on 18 May 2015, 09:58:41 AM
I have bitten the bullet a little bit and cut down the height of the eastern boards to match the original map.  It now means that the total length is approximately 80"  I have had a few games on it and must admit to falling behind on the painting a little bit.  I have done some work on the islands around Haiphong and still need to get on with getting some new sand to add to the relief.

I have changed the sea colour to a darker green but need to go and lighten the coastal areas and add the mud flats.  As usual other projects have bubbled up and I haven't been as diligent as I should have been in getting this finished.

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-AKj1RUyl6Hk/VUjXTmHBlzI/AAAAAAAAGgw/ggSF5QJgquI/s1600/IMG_0338.JPG)

I have now removed all the pencil markings on the target hexes and they will be getting a coat of paint this week.  I have also nearly finished redefining the hex sides on the western boards with dark green paint.

Keep playing on it rather than finishing it.  Played out 3 games so far (two USAF, one USN) have one in planning which might get played this week.

(http://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-y2MzzpfI0xw/VU1BmIDP6TI/AAAAAAAAGng/K6zYRPs71fM/s320/blogger-image-1996496709.jpg)

My Blog has more info and shots http://cag19.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/Vietnam%20-%20Air%20Combat%20-%20D3

Title: Re: Minibits custom hex board progress
Post by: toxicpixie on 18 May 2015, 10:02:22 AM
Really nice, I really like the look of this :)

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Post by: Fenton on 18 May 2015, 10:13:36 AM
I am too lazy to look , what size are the hexes again please?
Title: Re: Minibits custom hex board progress
Post by: Si Tyler on 18 May 2015, 10:14:37 AM
38mm across the flats
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Post by: Fenton on 18 May 2015, 10:26:41 AM
Thanks
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Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 18 May 2015, 05:14:14 PM
Superb!