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Aha that fact your reading this means I'm right, there is an interest in a 10mm wargaming mag, it's time we had one what should we do about it

I'd write a regular article for sure,

Anyone else

Of course interested.   :D

Am sending you a PM.   :)

I would read it

I think this site is that magazine.

Quote from: FierceKitty on 22 March 2015, 12:05:03 AM
I think this site is that magazine.

I would agree that to Pendraken fans it is, but there are those yet who have not found out the joy of Pendraken, poor souls.   :(

An ezine covering other makes and games, both existing and now defunct from production, would likely increase the player base substantially.  Of course we all realise that this would create a headache for those at Pendraken, but hey, what is wrong with them working a continuous production line on a four shift rota.   ;D

Seriously though, I think an independent ezine would be great and also increase the gamer base.  But then again I am a fairly new convert to 10mm so I guess I am still in the evangelical stage.  (Long may it continue to be so as well.   :)  )

It's an interesting proposition, but knowing how much effort/time goes into the mainstream magazines already available, it's a huge undertaking.  There are more 10mm articles appearing in the major mag's, which is great for everyone, but I'm not sure if there are enough article pieces generated at the moment to fill a single publication. 

One thing that might work, would be a quarterly type e-zine, which could be put together and published through Wargame Vault or something similar.  It would rely very heavily on reader input though, as you'd need a steady stream of articles, batreps, photoshoots, news, etc.

8)

I did Warmaster and 10mm digest. 3 numbers.

Start with warmaster as main game, but my idea is getting wider to more games, but only focus in 10mm.

Then I quit because I am not having time. Trying to keep it life with the help of Jurisch.

http://www.specialist-arms.com/warmaster/wmdigest/

I'd contribute batreps and such. Quarterly might be the way to go

Just dont ask me to edit or format as Im an IT illiterate.. :D

Quote from: Leon on 22 March 2015, 02:05:30 AM
One thing that might work, would be a quarterly type e-zine, which could be put together and published through Wargame Vault or something similar.  It would rely very heavily on reader input though, as you'd need a steady stream of articles, batreps, photoshoots, news, etc.

Agreed !!
Cheers - Phil.

Well, if Techno says it's OK, it's jake with me.

There are probably a few threads on here which could be turned with the minimum of editing into an article. Top Totty springs to mind, but that could just be because it's early. Some of the batreps and painting articles though are quite substantial enough.

You could count on me for an article a quarter - perhaps not mainstream - but I'd happily do my bit.

I would be happy to contribute, and also edit/proof read as I have a red pen! I have had 10mm articles published in Miniature Wargames (a while ago now).

Problems - time to edit, articles, distribution.

All hit by much more established magazines and journals.

IanS

I would definitely be interested in contributing in some manner.

I'd contribute some of my "more interesting " army lists.  ;)

If someone is starting a 10mm magazine, count with me!

Maybe a small scale magazine covering 2/3mm ( That's 2 or 3mm  NOT two thirds of a millimeter Nobby) 6mm and 10/12mm might work better

QuoteMaybe a small scale magazine covering 2/3mm ( That's 2 or 3mm  NOT two thirds of a millimeter Nobby) 6mm and 10/12mm might work better

Now that is a good idea and would broaden the appeal, but which sucker (I mean nice person) would take on all the hard work on a regular basis? I am happy to contribute and help, but just do not have the time to commit to running such a magazine on a regular basis. Nor do I have the IT skills to create an online fanzine.

Quote from: Fenton on 22 March 2015, 11:22:54 AM
Maybe a small scale magazine covering 2/3mm ( That's 2 or 3mm  NOT two thirds of a millimeter Nobby) 6mm and 10/12mm might work better

Never crossed my mind!  :^o

I could edit first copy, see how we get on, I've got a website so could sort a download plug in, nothing to loose right??. Could chase some sponsorship not for gain but content.

2-12mm I reckon but what to call it, SSQ magazine (small scale quarterly)
Any ideas
We could poll a few of the best

I'm thinking,

Showcase army
Batrep no1
Terrain
New releases
Focus article which changes each issue eg size comparison one week then say historical engagement the next
Adds for relevant scale manufacturers
Batrep no 2

Works for me so far  :-bd

It would be advisable early on to get some idea of who does what - i.e. what readers are interested in.

For goodness' sakes, we could find out that beyond the Pendraken bubble, everyone could be into ... Myceneans or the Indian Mutiny or (say it softly) Aztecs!

True but if we alter the focus each issue that should help, we could put up a list of desired content and those that think they could offer up articles and pictures could tick them off

Well done Ironduke for giving us all this idea and for offering to do a first issue. We could also publish players own rules, both battle and campaign, solo ideas and so on. Articles on converting small scale figures to suit a players needs, scenery making articles etc... the list is almost infinite really.

Oooo we could have a regular warband bat rep that'd be great

May need to get my hands on some software a little more capable than word, it'd have to be free too. A few years back Id help edit a newspaper so won't be completely lost but can anyone recommend any good SW

I did WM &10mm Digest with In design. Quark could be also a good option. I could recommend whatever of those two softwares.

Interviews to sculptors are a good idea.

I would like to see an article about zombies ( I see a great work in the painting competition )

Quote from: Ironduke on 22 March 2015, 05:34:49 PM
I'm thinking,

Showcase army
Batrep no1
Terrain
New releases
Focus article which changes each issue eg size comparison one week then say historical engagement the next
Adds for relevant scale manufacturers
Batrep no 2

Well I suppose I should respectfully ask if those interested could put their name to one of the above subjects, I'd hope one of the batreps would be a Warband one. Photos and articles should be submitted to me at
craigarmstrong1973@gmail.com as a word document, I would also beg a list of manufacturers people would like to see advertised/linked in the magazine. If we get enough content I'll stick it up for download asap, here we go! Good luck lol

Sounds a good idea, not too sure if I could contribute anything but would certainly be interested in seeing it come to life.

QuoteWell I suppose I should respectfully ask if those interested could put their name to one of the above subjects, I'd hope one of the batreps would be a Warband one. Photos and articles should be submitted to me at
craigarmstrong1973@gmail.com as a word document, I would also beg a list of manufacturers people would like to see advertised/linked in the magazine. If we get enough content I'll stick it up for download asap, here we go! Good luck lol

Put me down for a Warband batrep, with Photo's, although I will be using 6x3cm bases, not the 'official' ones

Quote from: Ironduke on 22 March 2015, 05:34:49 PM
I'm thinking,
Showcase army
Batrep no1
Terrain
New releases
Focus article which changes each issue eg size comparison one week then say historical engagement the next
Adds for relevant scale manufacturers
Batrep no 2

Definitely thinking along the right lines there, Duke.
Cheers - Phil

You could put me down for a focus article - something like "the journey from 20mm to 10mm", or "half the size, twice as satisfying."


Have you an idea for a word count?

Quote from: fsn on 23 March 2015, 07:19:16 AM
"half the size, twice as satisfying."

;D =O ;D

Brilliant; who wouldn't read that? =D>

Quote from: fsn on 23 March 2015, 07:19:16 AM
You could put me down for a focus article - something like "the journey from 20mm to 10mm", or "half the size, twice as satisfying."


Have you an idea for a word count?

Seeing as we have no paper publishing costs Id say no maximum word count but I'm thinking 800-2000 would give enough scope, anymore than 2k we could do an article continuing to the next issue.

So far

The illustrious Luddite has kindly agreed to do an article, hopefully about Warband if he's not too sick of penning this subject matter
Bodvoc - Warband batrep
FSN - focus 10-20mm journey
I have already got adds from some target manufacturers (would love to see something from Pendraken obviously)
I have someone in mind for new releases too.

As for deadline, shall we say end of April

If you need something more, maybe i can help out a bit?

Currently painting acw troops (pendraken), and 2mm napoleonics, so if you are down an article i could pitch in maybe.

Allso, may i suggest a 'eavy metal' type column, like white dwarf used to have the golden demon showcase, but with the painting comp winners??

Quote from: petercooman on 23 March 2015, 09:57:30 AM
If you need something more, maybe i can help out a bit?

Currently painting acw troops (pendraken), and 2mm napoleonics, so if you are down an article i could pitch in maybe.

Allso, may i suggest a 'eavy metal' type column, like white dwarf used to have the golden demon showcase, but with the painting comp winners??

Good idea on both counts

We still need a terrain feature and a second batrep

I can't promise a batrep now, i'll have to check the schedule as i have a few busy weeks, i have a terrain project on hold, a crashed revell micro wings fighter for normandy, but don't know when i'll get to it. I could always record the progress and if it's not on time, maybe it can be used for the 2nd issue if it is a succes?

Quote from: petercooman on 23 March 2015, 09:57:30 AM
Allso, may i suggest a 'eavy metal' type column, like white dwarf used to have the golden demon showcase, but with the painting comp winners??

That is a belting idea :-bd

Quote from: petercooman on 23 March 2015, 10:08:07 AM
I can't promise a batrep now, i'll have to check the schedule as i have a few busy weeks, i have a terrain project on hold, a crashed revell micro wings fighter for normandy, but don't know when i'll get to it. I could always record the progress and if it's not on time, maybe it can be used for the 2nd issue if it is a succes?

Thankyou that'd be chipper

Seeing how this whole thing may have legs, is this all ok with Pendraken it being in resources given that there will be an adds section for other companies?

Perhaps we could ask redstef for a focus on that cracking LoA army I for one would love to see more

Quote from: Ironduke on 23 March 2015, 01:51:49 PM
Perhaps we could ask redstef for a focus on that cracking LoA army I for one would love to see more

Agree with you there  ;)

Agree too

No worries from us about keeping it here, or I can switch it up to 'General Discussion' if you like?

One little bit of advice I'd throw into the mix, I'd aim to have all of the 'bulk' of the content, articles/batreps/features, done and in hand for at least two issues worth of the magazine.  News articles / latest releases / company adverts can all be thrown in relatively quickly, but you don't want to be waiting on that one last article to complete the magazine, as it's very easy for people's real lives to get in the way and you're suddenly left short and unable to go to e-print on time.  Missing deadlines and having potential customers/readers sitting waiting on it will very quickly damage the reputation of the e-zine.

And of course, good luck with it and give me a shout if we can help with anything.  I've got some Pendraken adverts I can send through if/when you need them, and we can promote it through the forum for you as well.

8)

Smashing thanks again Leon, I'd be pleased to arrange some of your adds in the magazine, I hope we can do them justice

Getagrip has brilliantly suggested a heavy metal section of the mag, great idea, im thinking a 2 page centre spread so we can get some larger pictures, would the winners and runners up who want their work to appear forward pics of their entries to me please with your name and/or tag, with preferred scale and rules so I can give you each the credit you deserve. It will be titled
Not so ' eavy metal
2015 winners
Organised by Pendraken miniatures

Pictures can be emailed to me at craigarmstrong1973@gmail.com
Thanks chaps
I've been very busy promoting the magazine so here's hoping we get a decent sized audience, There has been interest from a couple of big names in the hobby, suppose that'll help

So I dont get confused this mag is the same as 'SSQ small scale quarterly E-zine' page on FB,

Quote from: Ironduke on 28 March 2015, 10:05:48 AM
Getagrip has brilliantly suggested a heavy metal section of the mag, great idea, im thinking a 2 page centre spread so we can get some larger pictures, would the winners and runners up who want their work to appear forward pics of their entries to me please with your name and/or tag, with preferred scale and rules so I can give you each the credit you deserve. It will be titled
Not so ' eavy metal
2015 winners
Organised by Pendraken miniatures

Pictures can be emailed to me at craigarmstrong1973@gmail.com
Thanks chaps
I've been very busy promoting the magazine so here's hoping we get a decent sized audience, There has been interest from a couple of big names in the hobby, suppose that'll help

:-[
It was actually Peter's suggestion  ;)

I believe it is.

Woops apologies Peter

Quote from: Fenton on 28 March 2015, 10:33:42 AM
So I dont get confused this mag is the same as 'SSQ small scale quarterly E-zine' page on FB,

Yup

There is a Warmaster fanzine (http://www.warimperator.de/warmaster-digest-fanzine/) that includes lists of new non-GW 10/12mm fantasy figures.

Quote from: Dunnadd on 29 March 2015, 02:04:35 AM
There is a Warmaster fanzine (http://www.warimperator.de/warmaster-digest-fanzine/) that includes lists of new non-GW 10/12mm fantasy figures.

Good little read it is too! ;)

Nº 3 has an interview with Leon.

I would like to help with the SSQ small scale. Ironduke if there something you need or somehting you think I could do, please let me know.

Quote from: Ironduke on 28 March 2015, 02:00:26 PM
Woops apologies Peter

Doesn't matter, great minds think alike anyway  :D :D

Quote from: jchaos79 on 29 March 2015, 12:45:33 PM
Nº 3 has an interview with Leon.

I would like to help with the SSQ small scale. Ironduke if there something you need or somehting you think I could do, please let me know.

I certainly will mate, thankyou muchly
What's your interest terrain, minis, hobby in general??, I know you've painted some nice wee men!

minis, history, hobby, 10mm figures ....

Maybe a sort of pill, as 1 page scenario or something?

Okidoke, email me when you have something, I'm intrigued look forward to reading it

Yes Sir.

Hi guys, 28 days until proposed release date, anyone wanting to get involved please email me craigarmstrong1973@gmail.com with your articles. If you guys think a heavy metal style article on the PD 2015 winners is a good way to go you can send me a pic of the winning entry at email above with your name or tag preferred rules, number of years gaming and pref scale that'd be great. Everything else in place just need the content lol
Thanks
Craig

I'll finish my bit this weekend.

Thanks mate

Quote from: Ironduke on 01 April 2015, 08:30:49 AM
If you guys think a heavy metal style article on the PD 2015 winners is a good way to go you can send me a pic of the winning entry at email above with your name or tag preferred rules, number of years gaming and pref scale that'd be great. Everything else in place just need the content lol
Thanks
Craig

Hi Craig.

To draw the attention of the winners to the above....Might it be worth starting a topic/thread headed "Calling Winners of the 2015 Painting Comp.".......Just in case they haven't spotted this thread ?

Cheers - Phil

Smashing idea Phil

How about a Readers Wives :D Miniatures page, where folks send in photos of stuff they've finished recently. I've got some inspiration from various photos on this site and the web generally, so that might be of use?

That's a great idea, would work rather nicely at the end of the mag do you think? :)

Sounds good to me, as well.
Cheers - Phil

Quote from: andys on 05 April 2015, 10:46:02 AM
How about a Readers Wives :D Miniatures page, where folks send in photos of stuff they've finished recently. I've got some inspiration from various photos on this site and the web generally, so that might be of use?

So long as it's your own work Id love to include them, I think it's a cracking idea

Lots & lots of pictures of wee soldiers !
That's what's wanted !  :)
Cheers - Phil

Maybe we can have some alternate army lists for Warbands in there too.  :)

I second more armylists for Warband.

Quote from: Bloodaxe on 05 April 2015, 07:52:08 PM
Maybe we can have some alternate army lists for Warbands in there too.  :)

Got that covered, game of thrones
Dothraki
Crownlands
Stark
baratheon
Wildlings
All done and due to be released in the first issue

May do John Carter for issue 2 but need suggestions for minis
I was thinking
The two different tribes of red men
Soldangas and Solisium
Tharks
Thermiums
And the other two tharkish tribes in the south and the North, names slip me as its been a couple of years since I read the book, need to do some research

Could be done for war master too, a friend has done the Warmaster GOT lists, and I could get on with JC lists

Maybe Ratmen or other Pendraken lines that arent getting their own army list.

So, would you like a Warband supplement or 'army book' with additional official army lists in?

QuoteMay do John Carter for issue 2

I have some minis for this in 15mm but would love to try it in 10mm but for suitable figures I am at a loss in 10mm.

An official supplement for Warband with extra armies and scenarios would be cool.

What happened to Dark Elves riding small dinosaur creatures? I painted up some a few years back but cannot see them on the Dark Elf list.

Quote from: Chieftain on 05 April 2015, 08:50:00 PM
So, would you like a Warband supplement or 'army book' with additional official army lists in?

I would.

Quote from: Leman on 06 April 2015, 07:43:25 AM
What happened to Dark Elves riding small dinosaur creatures? I painted up some a few years back but cannot see them on the Dark Elf list.

Dark elves had cold ones, haven't seen em around in a while, sold a few 28mm cold ones on eBay, they went for silly money

Quote from: Leman on 06 April 2015, 07:43:25 AM
What happened to Dark Elves riding small dinosaur creatures? I painted up some a few years back but cannot see them on the Dark Elf list.

Yeah, no Dark Elf cavalry at all.

Damn, got Kallistra Dark Elf cavalry as well. Just have to ignore the list then. Not buying figures to sit in a box forever. So, stone elementals out, cold ones in; cave things out, cavalry in. Da-dah, done. Easy isn't it. Don't like it? Don't care - won't be playing you will I?

Raptor riders are still in the catalogue, can't you use them as Mercanary Knights?

It's fantasy Lemmy. I will use them as Dark Elf raptor riders and make it up as I go along. I always used to laugh at the magazine article entitled Fantasy Facts - I mean, come on.

Quote from: Leman on 06 April 2015, 06:37:32 PM
Damn, got Kallistra Dark Elf cavalry as well. Just have to ignore the list then. Not buying figures to sit in a box forever. So, stone elementals out, cold ones in; cave things out, cavalry in. Da-dah, done. Easy isn't it. Don't like it? Don't care - won't be playing you will I?

Perfectly put! :)

Ahem.  Is it worth pointing out these are proper Dark Elves?
Denizens of the Underdark, who live underground and therefore don't use cavalry?   ;)
Not leather-clad grimdark versions that make Drizzt Do'Urden ashamed.   8)

That said, the rules for allies mean that you can still use mounted troops drawn from other lists of course - use lizard riders or whatever you like to represent them though!

Quote from: Chieftain on 07 April 2015, 04:55:15 PM
Ahem.  Is it worth pointing out these are proper Dark Elves?
Denizens of the Underdark, who live underground and therefore don't use cavalry?   ;)
Not leather-clad grimdark versions that make Drizzt Do'Urden ashamed.   8)

That said, the rules for allies mean that you can still use mounted troops drawn from other lists of course - use lizard riders or whatever you like to represent them though!

Drizzt's folk from Menzoberranzan had lizard mounts.  ;)

Quote from: Bloodaxe on 07 April 2015, 05:33:11 PM
Drizzt's folk from Menzoberranzan had lizard mounts.  ;)

Was it lizards?  I've got spiders in my head, although it's been a while since I've read them...  :-\

Quote from: Leon on 07 April 2015, 05:46:11 PM
I've got spiders in my head ...  :-\

Now, there's an admission :D

Why didn't Frank Sinatra ever sing Spiders in my Head? Sad oversight.

Quote from: BloodaxeDrizzt's folk from Menzoberranzan had lizard mounts.  ;)

They did?   :-[

Ah, well, you see...Warband has Night Elves.

Totally different breed.

;D

On a serious note though, the Warband lists have been designed to be flexible, and to get back to a more 'generic' approach to fantasy armies (alongside some Pendraken-specific lists).

Therefore, there are lots of options within the Night Elf list for representing mounted units.

Cave horrors and Cave spiders could both be used as mounted units (lizard or spider riders).  Assassins or Scouts could be mounted as horse (or beastie) skirmishers or archers.

And as has been said, if you want 'dark elf' cavalry, draft them in as allied units.

:D

Would that be from the Menzobezeranzan list?

or perhaps we could do with a Melnibonean list they were kinda dark elf as well, wouldnt need to have lots of troop types, fecking huge fire breathing dragons ridden by Elric and his posse would see off just about anyone.

Night Elves on the other hand are more tree-hugging-sabretooth-riding-hippies with a really bad dance routine, dont believe me? Fire up a WoW trial account, roll a Night Elf and see for yourself. Oh did I mention that theyre all about 7 feet tall (the males are even bigger) I think this calls for Clib to do some "research".  :-\ :-\

Just as well Blizzard arent quite as quick with the banhammer as the Evil Empire innit?

Those WoW Night Elf girls can dance though... :D

Yeah usually naked on top of a mailbox