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Title: Potential Plausible Opponents 19th century
Post by: KTravlos on 15 March 2015, 03:23:12 PM
Good day to all

If you are looking for potential, but plausible 19th century opponents, this list contains all dyads of participants in Militarized Interstate Disputes , that saw the show or use of force, but did not escalate to war in the 1816-1914 period.  That said almost all wars start as MIDs, so this is a list of potential wars.

http://phdleadhead.blogspot.com.tr/p/19th-century-militarized-interstate.html (http://phdleadhead.blogspot.com.tr/p/19th-century-militarized-interstate.html)

Hope it fires up your imagination without guilt  :P
Title: Re: Potential Plausible Opponents 19th century
Post by: fsn on 15 March 2015, 03:30:19 PM
Good find.

Some interesting stuff there.
Title: Re: Potential Plausible Opponents 19th century
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 15 March 2015, 04:16:21 PM
Great lists, but would you mind explaining the left hand column and the scores on the right?
Title: Re: Potential Plausible Opponents 19th century
Post by: KTravlos on 15 March 2015, 04:26:05 PM
DISNO: Is the COW ID number for the Disputes. I multiple dyad (pairs) share the same dispute number this indicates a multilateral MID

Hostility Level: 4: Military force was used (you will need to look at the COW codebook for the types of actions that count as this). 3: Force was demonstrated (again same). But for example: Attacking and taking a fort: Use of Force. Blockading a Port or Mobilising troops: Demonstration of Force


Reciprocation: Did the actor who was the target of a use of force or demonstration of force reciprocate? 1 yes 0 no. MIDs that see escalatory reciprocations tend to become wars.
Title: Re: Potential Plausible Opponents 19th century
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 15 March 2015, 04:27:54 PM
Thank you, And I thought they were football scores! ;D
Title: Re: Potential Plausible Opponents 19th century
Post by: KTravlos on 15 March 2015, 04:50:58 PM
Well in the orignal datasets there is a "who won" variables :D One could tabulate them and see who sucks in the small conflicts!
Title: Re: Potential Plausible Opponents 19th century
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 15 March 2015, 04:57:42 PM
I think you'll find, no matter what data set you use, Zanzibar will always come out last!
Title: Re: Potential Plausible Opponents 19th century
Post by: Last Hussar on 03 May 2015, 09:37:03 PM
So
USA Mexico 1876 1878 4 1
The Yanks started it, use military force, Mexico reponded?
Title: Re: Potential Plausible Opponents 19th century
Post by: KTravlos on 04 May 2015, 06:37:05 PM
Being first or second in the dataset I gave you guys does not indicate you was initiator. You will have to explore the source data-sets for that. The other info is correct. Essentially US and Mexican troops engaged in the reciprocal use of force. From the source data sets you could also get the exact use of force m which was a Clash. This meant an exchange of fire between the forces of the two countries though my data does not tell who started it. You will have to go to the original data sets.
Title: Re: Potential Plausible Opponents 19th century
Post by: Leman on 04 May 2015, 06:41:20 PM
I think clint Eastwood was involved in that particular dust up, and got a fistful of dollars for his trouble.
Title: Re: Potential Plausible Opponents 19th century
Post by: Ithoriel on 04 May 2015, 07:23:57 PM
1876 is the start of the "Pax Porfiriano" an era of Mexican history noted for it's stability and the subject of a rather good board game of the same name.

Presumably the Americans supported Llerdo de Tejada (the previous president) against Porfirio or vice versa.

Soooo many periods of history I wish I knew more about, so little time!