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Title: Whither now?
Post by: fsn on 10 March 2015, 06:58:01 PM
Gentlemen of the Forum.

I have this weekend taken stock of my lead mountain, and tallied my spreadsheet (v16 edit 4.2), and have come to a startling conclusion. I may have run out of things to buy from Pendraken.

I know, I know. It seems impossible. All those lines and I can't find anything? Let me explain. It's the government's fault. In the last few years the government has cut funding to local authorities, who have savagely cut advice services. I work for an advice service, and feel a bit like a polar bear on a rapidly shrinking ice floe. Thus, I expect on a year to year basis to be allowed to go, and breathe a sigh of relief every time I make it through. To hedge against a period of employment inactivity, I have been making regular purchases from Pendraken, and stock piling paints, brushes and hamster food.

So far then, the state of play is:

Clop, clop, swish, swish

Clop, clop, pop, pop

Clop, clop, bang, bang

brmm, brmm, bang, bang

Whoosh, whoosh, zap, zap

This is as far as my plans extend, but where now? I know what I don't want - AWI, 7YW, Lo the bloominA, Colonial, Spanish CW. Could be tempted by Samurai but I am daunted by the painting; perhaps WWI; perhaps a mid C19 European mash up (Austria vs France vs Prussian vs Britain) like Brittains on steroids; Byzantines would be nice to take on the Normans in Sicily. Quite fancy the ECW, but the whole pike/musket thing never looks right to me. Falklands is too near, Viet Nam too jungley, though Arab-Israeli would be quite fun ... if we had the infantry. Fantasy doesn't really do it for me en masse. 

So, Gentlemen of the forum. Have you any (polite) suggestions?
Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: getagrip on 10 March 2015, 07:05:25 PM
Melt it all down and sculpt one, life size, Techno ;)
Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: Fenton on 10 March 2015, 07:09:09 PM
Boer War perhaps?  Or maybe just general North West frontier type action of the same period
Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 10 March 2015, 07:26:46 PM
Franco-Prussian War.
Boxer Rebellion?
Persians?
Later Romans vs PICTS?
When the PICTS get released.
Shall I say PICTS again?
Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: Dunnadd on 10 March 2015, 07:31:12 PM
The only thing you should say as much as Picts is Aztecs. And the only thing you should say more than either is armoured and armed werewolves.
Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: gregernest on 10 March 2015, 07:43:13 PM
Go with the Samurai.  You need a challenge.  8)

Redoing the ancient Greek line?  Where did you hear that?  (I need to order more of the old ones, now...)  :'(
Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: Leon on 10 March 2015, 07:47:16 PM
Late 19th C. would get my vote, interesting period, comprehensive ranges, loads of options.
Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 10 March 2015, 07:49:21 PM
Samuari are lovely, but soul and sole destroying to paint. They take 100% of your painting talent and still sit there going 'we can take more'!
Greeks are in Techno's 'to do list'.

Maybe something different, I'm still mulling over the Schleswig Holstein question.
Or something like Jack and his modern campaign approach?
An imaginary Centurian company fighting their way out of 'Country X' which has gone rouge.
Regulars use Argentine forces, irregular use NVA/VC?
Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: Dunnadd on 10 March 2015, 07:54:04 PM
gregernest wrote
QuoteRedoing the ancient Greek line?  Where did you hear that?  (I need to order more of the old ones, now...)  Cry

I think Pendraken still sell their old Republican Romans even after making a new line too, so might be the same with the Greeks.
Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: Leon on 10 March 2015, 08:01:49 PM
Quote from: Dunnadd on 10 March 2015, 07:54:04 PM
I think Pendraken still sell their old Republican Romans even after making a new line too, so might be the same with the Greeks.

Yep, we'd still have the old moulds in the workshop so we can always supply previous ranges to folks still expanding their armies.

8)
Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: gregernest on 10 March 2015, 08:09:54 PM
Awesome!!!  ;D

So, back to the business of helping this gentleman finding something to buy...  8)
Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: Steve J on 10 March 2015, 08:19:30 PM
I'd also suggest FPW or an ImagiNations conflict set in the 18th or 19th Century, so that you can pick and choose figures that you like.
Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: Ithoriel on 10 March 2015, 08:33:45 PM
The sand of the desert is sodden red,—
Red with the wreck of a square that broke;—
The Gardner's jammed and the Colonel dead,
And the regiment blind with dust and smoke.
The river of death has brimmed his banks,
And England's far, and Honour a name,
But the voice of a schoolboy rallies the ranks:
"Pay up! Pay up! Colonial's the game!"
Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: fred. on 10 March 2015, 08:43:22 PM
WWI is a great range - and you need early war and late war so double the buying. And there are 3 fronts (at least), Western Front, Eastern Front, and Middle East. So lots of different figures needed.

For WWII you need some mid to late war Russians.

Colonial is an area I am thinking about getting into - Red Coats are always a plus, but you get later khaki or grey uniforms and all sorts of native opposition.

Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: Orcs on 10 March 2015, 09:09:24 PM
When the early war German Fallshirmjager that Techno has done for 1940 are released you will need some more of those.

Japanese to go against your early WW2 Russian.


Or

NW frontier - Either traditional colonial or

Interwar ie the Waziristan Campaign

http://www.khyber.org/publications/041-045/armyininda.shtml
Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: Techno on 10 March 2015, 09:34:01 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 10 March 2015, 07:49:21 PM
Greeks are in Techno's 'to do list'.

Sez who ?.......Oh yeah.... I remember....It was Leon, wasn't it ?
Cheers -  X_X

Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: Leman on 10 March 2015, 09:48:31 PM
APW - excellent ranges and loads of background material plus some decent rule sets around nowadays.
Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: petercooman on 10 March 2015, 09:57:36 PM
French indian war?
Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: Vamboozle on 10 March 2015, 10:05:40 PM
Haven't DeAgostini just realised a Build Your Own Life Sized Centurion - complete with magazine.

Comes in 5,000 issues - first issue £2.99' subsequent issues £7.99.  ;)

Seriously (?) go ECW. 
Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: getagrip on 10 March 2015, 10:16:05 PM
Love the ECW minis  ;)
Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 10 March 2015, 10:17:59 PM
Hello fsn

For a good general purpose 'war' how can you look past Eastern Front WW1!! This can morph to RCW, Balkan wars (ImagiNations as well), Back of Beyond, travel even further East with Warlord China. Add WW1 Italians and Austrians. You can make a whole new lead pile without too much thought.  :D :D.

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan (Preview still not working Firefox 36.0.1, Windows 7)
Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: FierceKitty on 11 March 2015, 01:02:22 AM
If classical Greeks, I'd say Achaemenid Persians were an obvious choice too. Though you might need to strain the resources of every suitable 10mm producer to get a reasonable range of figure   types.
Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: John Cook on 11 March 2015, 02:23:29 AM
Quote from: Just a few Orcs on 10 March 2015, 09:09:24 PM
When the early war German Fallshirmjager that Techno has done for 1940 are released you will need some more of those.

Early war German Fallshirmjager for 1940?  Is he going to produce some early war 1940 opponents for them?
Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: Techno on 11 March 2015, 07:03:21 AM
Couldn't say, John. :-\
The Germans were a 'special' at Orcs' request. (i.e. He 'funded' them, through the 'You want what making' system.)

Cheers - Phil




Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: Subedai on 11 March 2015, 09:07:33 AM
Mongols!!!

Nuff said.
Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: Matt J on 11 March 2015, 10:42:12 AM
surely you need some ancient Spanish to go with the Carthagians?

7YW, ECW, C19th, Zulu's, lots of ancients (Gauls, Dacians, Imperial Romans etc...), dare I say it... Mongols. Possibilities are endless (almost)
Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: getagrip on 11 March 2015, 04:12:52 PM
Quote from: Subedai on 11 March 2015, 09:07:33 AM
Mongols!!!

Nuff said.

Cracking minis too ;)
Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: Hertsblue on 11 March 2015, 04:16:46 PM
You could always try painting some of them.  :) :) :)
Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: getagrip on 11 March 2015, 04:58:49 PM
Quote from: Hertsblue on 11 March 2015, 04:16:46 PM
You could always try painting some of them.  :) :) :)

;D

I will, I will :P
Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: fsn on 11 March 2015, 06:06:56 PM
Meeting with 2 directors (as if one isn't enough) on Monday. This discussion could well be moot by Monday evening.  :-SS

However ... Falklands War program on Discovery History ... Ooooh .... pretty Pendraken range ...

Anyway. I have narrowed it down to ...


... or something else.
Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: Leman on 11 March 2015, 06:41:19 PM
Can't help you with any of that.
Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: Sean67 on 11 March 2015, 06:57:40 PM
1956 Suez you know you want too
Regards
Sean
Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: fsn on 11 March 2015, 07:05:08 PM
ECW would be nice, but it doesn't give me a huge buzz, and I do think that the ECW requires big units and big armies. Can't be doing with units of 4 pikemen flanked by 8 musketeers!

Mongols just don't do anything for me at all. Sorry Mongol lovers.

Byzantines now.  :-\ I remember someone posting about how you could craft a Byzantine army from other ranges. Who was that?

Imperial Rome would be fine ... but who as an enemy? Perhaps somewhere in the East?

Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: fsn on 11 March 2015, 07:05:34 PM
Quote from: Sean67 on 11 March 2015, 06:57:40 PM
1956 Suez you know you want too
Regards
Sean

I do! I do!
Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: Techno on 11 March 2015, 08:20:19 PM
The whither over here today has been rather grim, to be honest.
Hope it's sunnier tomorrow.  :D
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 11 March 2015, 08:43:14 PM
I got sunburnt today! :)
Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: Upgraydd on 11 March 2015, 10:12:05 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 11 March 2015, 08:43:14 PM
I got sunburnt today! :)

C'mon...in England. No-one believes that  :P
Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 11 March 2015, 10:53:29 PM
Definitely pink!
Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: paulr on 11 March 2015, 11:18:16 PM
Quote from: Techno on 11 March 2015, 08:20:19 PM
The whither over here today has been rather grim, to be honest.
Hope it's sunnier tomorrow.  :D
Cheers - Phil

Autumn here now Phil, only 24 today  ;) ;D ;D
Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 12 March 2015, 12:58:17 AM
Hello paulr

Quote from: paulr on 11 March 2015, 11:18:16 PM
Autumn here now Phil, only 24 today  ;) ;D ;D

Autumn here too.

Conditions at local time 11:50 on 12 March 2015

Temperature and Humidity
Temperature    29.7 °C           Dew Point    19.7 °C
Windchill    29.7 °C                   Humidity    55%
Heat Index    31.4 °C           Apparent Temperature    33.2 °C
Solar Radiation    793 W/m²           Evapotranspiration Today    0.71 mm

:D :D

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan (Notice how strong I've been by not mentioning whither, weather and Kiwis  :D :D)

Preview still not working
Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: FierceKitty on 12 March 2015, 01:04:16 AM
There are Byzantines in 10mm in the Old Glory and Magister Militum catalogues, and lots of scope for conversion (I even have a few Copplestone figures in my army). They make a valuable addition to Crusades-era possibilities.
Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: Orcs on 12 March 2015, 08:06:26 PM
Quote from: Techno on 11 March 2015, 08:20:19 PM
The whither over here today has been rather grim, to be honest.
Hope it's sunnier tomorrow.  :D
Cheers - Phil

Phil - Get your coat !
Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: getagrip on 12 March 2015, 08:40:06 PM
Quote from: Just a few Orcs on 12 March 2015, 08:06:26 PM
Phil - Get your coat !

He doesn't need a coat,  he has a protective layer of green stuff  ;)
Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: fsn on 12 March 2015, 08:44:27 PM
Techno?
(http://stokereport.com/files/green_man_3.jpg)
Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: petercooman on 12 March 2015, 08:52:48 PM
The sentence : "rolling small balls of green putty" just got awkward

:-& :-& :-&
Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: getagrip on 12 March 2015, 08:56:15 PM
 ;D ;D ;D =O =O =O ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: fsn on 12 March 2015, 09:49:10 PM
I AM DECIDED! Sort of.

I think my new project will have to be a 1959 "let's twist history into complete fantasy" type thing.  I fancy a mixed bag of "Brits" (Using Conquerors (which may become a new favourite), Land Rovers (did I see a Saracen somewhere?) and ... CENTURIONS, facing off against the Soviet backed menace (I feel flags flying from turrets) using IS III's T54/55 and BTRs of various hues, with American/French backed government using M48s, AMX13 and something ... (Don't you love a three way?)

I'm sure I can scrag up some infantry from one range or another - French Indo-China for one, may even scare up a few from the Falklands ranges.

Artillery - sure they were still using WWII artillery in 1959 ... and I'm feeling rather non-European. What does Central America look like?  :D :D :D

Gentlemen. I am enthused. I shall have a happy weekend in planning - between painting the 1941 Russians on my table.

I bought some T35's from another manufacturer. I am very, very sorry.  :( 
Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: fsn on 12 March 2015, 09:51:56 PM
... and helicopters. There has to be helicopters.

Where can I get a Whirlwind/S55/H19?
Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: Orcs on 12 March 2015, 10:52:29 PM
Quote from: fsn on 12 March 2015, 09:49:10 PM
 I bought some T35's from another manufacturer. I am very, very sorry.  :(  

BURN THE HERETIC!!!   BURN HIM !  BURN HIM |   :D

Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: fsn on 12 March 2015, 11:30:04 PM
It was either that or I campaigned for a Pendraken T35. I compromised my integrity rather than start "T35 - and you thought the Centurion was bad!"
Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: Dunnadd on 13 March 2015, 02:43:19 AM
If someone's doing helicopters can we have Blue Thunder with a bodyguard of (separate) werewolves armoured in chainmail with swords and/or axes and round shields?
Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: FierceKitty on 13 March 2015, 05:00:53 AM
Is that a set of metal links around their masculine regions?
Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 13 March 2015, 09:34:04 AM
Listening to 4 Extra yesterday - reading of Beowulf. Henay distcitly said CHAINMAIL. Comtempary reference to it. So YOUSE IS WRONG.

IanS  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: gregernest on 13 March 2015, 10:56:36 AM
Quote from: fsn on 12 March 2015, 09:49:10 PM
I AM DECIDED! Sort of.

See all the ideas worked!

PD staff:  so who get the commission on the sales to him???  :d
Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: DanJ on 13 March 2015, 12:30:52 PM
Crusades, you are definately missing out if you're not doing crusades.
Title: Re: Whither now?
Post by: getagrip on 13 March 2015, 02:42:21 PM
Quote from: DanJ on 13 March 2015, 12:30:52 PM
Crusades, you are definately missing out if you're not doing crusades.

A lot of CHAINMAIL in the crusades.