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Title: Beckers command vehicle
Post by: Sean67 on 07 March 2015, 02:52:10 PM
I'm after photos of Beckers command vehicle GR 231
I'm just trying to decide where the machine gun goes there's a shield of sorts In front of the commanders hatch but then there's another one a couple of millimetres in front of that !
Regards
Sean
Title: Re: Beckers command vehicle
Post by: Dazza on 07 March 2015, 04:42:24 PM
Mine looks like this :

(http://www.10mm-miniatures.co.uk/WW2/DPC2.JPG)

Hope it helps

Title: Re: Beckers command vehicle
Post by: getagrip on 07 March 2015, 04:43:05 PM
Oh wow!  Just wow!

=D> =D> =D>
Title: Re: Beckers command vehicle
Post by: Westmarcher on 07 March 2015, 04:43:44 PM
Oh! They're good!  :-bd

(nice blog, as well!)
Title: Re: Beckers command vehicle
Post by: Sean67 on 07 March 2015, 05:03:34 PM
Nice looking vehicles Dazza
Love your painting style unfortunately it's the French vehicle converted into a command variant I'm after.
Regards
Sean
Title: Re: Beckers command vehicle
Post by: Techno on 07 March 2015, 05:06:35 PM
Beautiful work, Dazza !!
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Beckers command vehicle
Post by: Dazza on 07 March 2015, 07:55:22 PM
Quote from: Sean67 on 07 March 2015, 05:03:34 PM
Nice looking vehicles Dazza
Love your painting style unfortunately it's the French vehicle converted into a command variant I'm after.
Regards
Sean

u mean this ?? :

(http://www.flamesofwar.com/Portals/0/all_images/german/Transport/GE245.jpg)

Title: Re: Beckers command vehicle
Post by: Sean67 on 07 March 2015, 08:06:37 PM
Sorry mate
But not that one either. The one I got is the Pendraken Gr 231
Regards
Sean
Title: Re: Beckers command vehicle
Post by: getagrip on 07 March 2015, 08:37:44 PM
Is this it?:

(http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--K8Idg9FY--/18l4h2hixr2c3jpg.jpg)
Title: Re: Beckers command vehicle
Post by: Sean67 on 08 March 2015, 05:59:32 AM
That's the one  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Beckers command vehicle
Post by: Sean67 on 08 March 2015, 07:54:36 AM
Found it.
It was used as an artillery observation Vehicle.
http://www.2iemeguerre.com/blindes/artilleriepanzer.htm
Regards
Sean
Title: Re: Beckers command vehicle
Post by: paulr on 09 March 2015, 12:19:33 AM
The description and confusion now makes sense ;)
Title: Re: Beckers command vehicle
Post by: Sean67 on 09 March 2015, 05:27:08 AM
Yes Paulr
I was using the description and code from Pendrakens catalogue.
But looks like they have got it wrong they call it Beckers command vehicle.
when it's actually an artillery observation vehicle.
From evidence it looks like there was less than 50 built.
Regards
Sean
Title: Re: Beckers command vehicle
Post by: NTM on 09 March 2015, 06:25:32 AM
I believe it was also used as a command vehicle in StuG Bttln 200
Title: Re: Beckers command vehicle
Post by: paulr on 09 March 2015, 08:54:07 AM
Quote from: NTM on 09 March 2015, 06:25:32 AM
I believe it was also used as a command vehicle in StuG Bttln 200

Which is where Becker comes in  ;)
Title: Re: Beckers command vehicle
Post by: old smokie on 09 March 2015, 09:10:49 AM
this is the picture I have from Pendraken of Beckers command vehicle, and two SPG's

http://s984.photobucket.com/user/oldsmokie/media/H35%20and%20H39.png.html?sort=6&o=0

hope this helps

Title: Re: Beckers command vehicle
Post by: Sean67 on 09 March 2015, 06:42:43 PM
Thank you for the picture Old Smokie.
NTM from what I've read they were used only as observation vehicles.
They are described as cramped inside ( even without the extra command radio's)
Stug Bttn 200 was indeed Beckers Bttn. But various old French tanks were gathered by him and modified into useable vehicles for 21st Pzr Div. the other picture posted by Dazza is another french vehicle commandeered by 21st Pzr this time a U304(F) if my memory serves me right.
Regards
Sean
Title: Re: Beckers command vehicle
Post by: NTM on 09 March 2015, 09:45:26 PM
Not just 21 Panzer. There were many other units in Normandy using vehicles converted by Baustaokommando Becker. Not just Normandy either the Marder I got to Tunisia with 334 division and various units in the east.
Title: Re: Beckers command vehicle
Post by: Leon on 10 March 2015, 03:57:40 AM
The vehicles were all done with Beckers Panzer division in mind, so conversions on the French chassis'.