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Wider Wargaming => Genre/Period Discussion => 20th Century => Topic started by: GrumpyOldMan on 02 March 2015, 11:21:14 PM

Title: Reasonable proxy for Japanese Type 94 AT Gun
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 02 March 2015, 11:21:14 PM
Hello All

Was just wondering if anybody could think of a reasonable proxy for the Japanese type 94 37mm AT gun:-

(http://homepage.eircom.net/~steven/images/37.jpg)(http://homepage.eircom.net/~steven/images/1-37.jpg)

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan
Title: Re: Reasonable proxy for Japanese Type 94 AT Gun
Post by: Hertsblue on 03 March 2015, 11:21:59 AM
Tricky, Grumps. The very thin and fragile looking carriage doesn't equate to anything much. Perhaps you could file down the German 77mm WW1 FK96 field gun?

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8c/Type_94_37mm_gun%2C_photo_2.JPG/1024px-Type_94_37mm_gun%2C_photo_2.JPG)
Title: Re: Reasonable proxy for Japanese Type 94 AT Gun
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 03 March 2015, 10:07:37 PM
Hello Hertsblue

Thanks for the reply. It is indeed a tricky one. I've been mulling over a few options.

1. Scratchbuild the whole thing (just need one for now)

2. Trim down a 2 Pdr and scratchbuild a carriage.

3. Trim down a 2 Pdr and place on a modified French 25mm AT carriage (probably more work than scratchbuilding  :o).

Will see if I can get a blueprint for it.

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan
Title: Re: Reasonable proxy for Japanese Type 94 AT Gun
Post by: John Cook on 04 March 2015, 02:28:09 AM
The tube of the Japanese weapons was based on the German Pak 36 design I think, so that's where I'd go.  The German gun has a split trail so you'd only need to replace wheels and modify the shield.  
Title: Re: Reasonable proxy for Japanese Type 94 AT Gun
Post by: getagrip on 04 March 2015, 07:37:48 AM
Weird looking gun though isn't it?
Title: Re: Reasonable proxy for Japanese Type 94 AT Gun
Post by: fred. on 04 March 2015, 12:22:03 PM
It does look like the German WWI 7.7cm gun, but I suspect it is quite a bit smaller.
Title: Re: Reasonable proxy for Japanese Type 94 AT Gun
Post by: Hertsblue on 04 March 2015, 12:24:51 PM
Almost certainly, Fred. The design of those steel wheels could take a bit of doing, I suspect.
Title: Re: Reasonable proxy for Japanese Type 94 AT Gun
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 04 March 2015, 04:19:44 PM
Small spoked ones do it ?

IanS
Title: Re: Reasonable proxy for Japanese Type 94 AT Gun
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 04 March 2015, 09:16:54 PM
Hello All

Quote from: fred    12df on 04 March 2015, 12:22:03 PM
It does look like the German WWI 7.7cm gun, but I suspect it is quite a bit smaller.

Quite right:-

(http://www.pacificwrecks.com/airfields/solomons/munda/1943/japanese/pile/type94-at-gun-gi.jpg)

Maybe I can look at a 6mm 7.7cm with a longer barrel.

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan (Have we tried renaming the "Preview' button to confuse the system?)
Title: Re: Reasonable proxy for Japanese Type 94 AT Gun
Post by: fred. on 04 March 2015, 09:47:34 PM
That is really rather small  :o

6mm could be a good call.
Title: Re: Reasonable proxy for Japanese Type 94 AT Gun
Post by: Dannyboy on 04 April 2015, 03:41:25 PM
Apologies for coming in late to the party on this one, and it's just a suggestion, looking at the low shillouette of the gun, the only thing I cam come up with is a Colonial Screw Gun, hope this helps.

http://www.pendraken.co.uk/ZC7-p3793/ (http://www.pendraken.co.uk/ZC7-p3793/)

Code ZC7 Mountain gun from the Zulu range, 19th Century Colonial
Title: Re: Reasonable proxy for Japanese Type 94 AT Gun
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 04 April 2015, 10:06:38 PM
Hello Dannyboy

Thanks for the reply and it is a good thought, although I'd have to scratchbuild the trails.

I'd already come to the conclusion to scratchbuild and it is sitting half completed on my bench (like most of my projects unfortunately  :'()

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan