My gaming buddy and I have recently decided to drop alcohol when playing anything other than small skirmish games; it just seems to raise the temperature.
I've known this guy for 30+ years but, when alcohol is involved, our games are the worse for it.
So, what are your thoughts? Do wargaming and alcohol mix?
When we did a lot of Rpg's we got rid of alcohol during the games as people started doing stupider things than normal. For wargaming we have to travel to the club so no drinking due to driving anyway
Quote from: Fenton on 02 March 2015, 10:01:04 PM
When we did a lot of Rpg's we got rid of alcohol during the games as people started doing stupider things than normal. For wargaming we have to travel to the club so no drinking due to driving anyway
RPGs and alcohol DEFINITELY don't mix. It's like trying to read when you're merry, the words don't go in. :-\
We drink tea, lots of it.
I drive, and antidepressants don't mix with booze either.
Quote from: mad lemmey on 02 March 2015, 10:04:36 PM
I drive, and antidepressants don't mix with booze either.
I've got that t shirt from a long time ago; they really don't :(
Quote from: Bodvoc on 02 March 2015, 10:03:43 PM
We drink tea, lots of it.
I've recently discovered green tea ; something of an acquired taste but I love it ;)
Wine gums...
Quote from: mad lemmey on 02 March 2015, 10:09:56 PM
Wine gums...
;D
Trying to avoid sugar as much as possible; post 40 my teeth are being silly :(
A bottle or two between 4 to 6 of us when gaming doesn't seem to cause any problems with any of the groups I game with.
The time we decided that the Russian Commanders should drink vodka and the German Commanders schnapps during a BKC2 Great Patriotic War game wound down into a reminiscence session rather than a gaming one - "Do you remember ..." "We used to play ...." "Whatever happened to the guy who ..." A detriment to the game maybe but a very enjoyable evening none the less :)
Sunjester and I have a small one during games, and they remain amicable.
We have found the secret to drinking in any situation is to avoid the 2nd pint. The second pint is the one that causes the problems.
I've noticed that effect - my darts and pool (never great) are definately better after about one and a half. Finishing the second pint has a weird effect. You know what it's like - you nip into a pub with a mate, intending just to have a swift one: One of you buys, so the other buys back, and all of a sudden staying for a third seems a perfectly reasonable propostion, as does the 4th and a short one, and maybe a curry. That second drink is the real trouble maker.
Sunjester and I have therefore found a solution to this problem. We don't have a second pint.
We skip directly to the third, which isn't a trouble maker. Cut out the second all together. It really does work.
Ithoriel, Sun; your comments kind of prove what we've worked out ;)
Espresso.
I used to play pool on th pint and a half rule. Could only win sober. Pint and a half. Three. Four and half or six.
Problem is I can't handle anything over two! I stuck to zero!
Quote from: mad lemmey on 02 March 2015, 11:14:02 PM
I used to play pool on th pint and a half rule. Could only win sober. Pint and a half. Three. Four and half or six.
Problem is I can't handle anything over two! I stuck to zero!
Ten pin bowling; I'm always better during pint 2. After that, downhill :)
Quote from: Last Hussar on 02 March 2015, 11:02:55 PM
We have found the secret to drinking in any situation is to avoid the 2nd pint. The second pint is the one that causes the problems.
;D =O ;D
Brill! (hadn't seen that before)
Funny enough, on the occasions I've had a drink, its been one bottle of beer max. - and it certainly did enhance the experience! More than one? I'm probably terrified what might happen to my toys if the players get too inebriated (e.g., a nice real ale or red wine wash or just simply pummelled and mashed into the table by an inebriated hand. :-S )
I'm not saying our generalship doesn't deteriorate, although our interpretation of rules is the most affected, which is either the curse or the genius of playing TFL rules.
Quote from: Last Hussar on 02 March 2015, 11:31:06 PM
I'm not saying our generalship doesn't deteriorate, although our interpretation of rules is the most affected, which is either the curse or the genius of playing TFL rules.
Yeah, "interpretation" and the effects of booze are a game killer.
Alcohol and gaming don't mix. We used to have issues at the club as the evening wore on and some of the members had had two or three pints. Invariably there was an argument, game abandoned, only to be repeated almost ad infinitum each week
Recommend a good bowl of jelly instead.
Almost the only time I've ever been drunk was on a jelly; I underestimated the effects of the port I'd used to make it, had three helpings, and was legless all evening.
(The other one was the result of the liberal interpretation of a waitress in San Gimignano of my request for a small amaretto.)
I drink a lot.
I game a lot.
I never drink and game. It spoils the fun.
Quote from: Luddite on 03 March 2015, 08:06:43 AM
I drink a lot.
I game a lot.
I never drink and game. It spoils the fun.
Perfectly put. Our games got niggly when alcohol was involved :(
I gave up drinking alcohol when I game after I lost an argument with myself during one of my solo games.
My tipple of fancy is tea and I have acquired a taste for leaf tea -preferably Eastern European, no milk or sugar (from the local Polish shop).
Tea makes me vomit, so does mention of JELLY.
IanS
Quote from: Subedai on 03 March 2015, 09:25:24 AM
I gave up drinking alcohol when I game after I lost an argument with myself during one of my solo games.
My tipple of fancy is tea and I have acquired a taste for leaf tea -preferably Eastern European, no milk or sugar (from the local Polish shop).
Difficult to get at the moment because of the country's issues but Malawi tea is exquisite.
Quote from: ianrs54 on 03 March 2015, 09:37:48 AM
Tea makes me vomit, so does mention of JELLY.
Tea. Jelly. Tea. Jelly. Tea. Jelly. Tea. Telly. Jea. Gaag!!...... :-& :-& :-& :-&
(glad that came up, now?)
;)
I'm having lunch you RAT >:( >:( >:( >:(
IanS ;)
Quote from: ianrs54 on 03 March 2015, 12:13:59 PM
I'm having lunch you RAT >:( >:( >:( >:(
IanS ;)
;D ;D ;D
Don't encourage him :D
if I'm playing Bloodbowl with my bro we'll have a few beers (adds to the carnage)
I also like having a couple of drinks before I do any painting in the evening
Quote from: Matt of Munslow on 03 March 2015, 04:29:45 PM
if I'm playing Bloodbowl with my bro we'll have a few beers (adds to the carnage)
I also like having a couple of drinks before I do any painting in the evening
Yeah, alcohol seems okay with "lighter" games; we had laugh riot with DMH and a bottle of port ;)
How about tea flavoured jelly with ice cream? Does that appeal to you Ian ;)?
It helps I'm very easy going and let Sunjester cheat. (He doesn't appear to have noticed this thread - how many digs can I get in before he does)
Of course our games are for the same purpose as the beer - relaxation. We once argued not over winning, but over who'd lost. Appropriately it was an Age of Reason battle.
Quote from: Last Hussar on 03 March 2015, 09:56:38 PM
It helps I'm very easy going and let Sunjester cheat. (He doesn't appear to have noticed this thread - how many digs can I get in before he does)
Of course our games are for the same purpose as the beer - relaxation. We once argued not over winning, but over who'd lost. Appropriately it was an Age of Reason battle.
Last game I played (sans alcohol) we were both trying to argue we'd lost ;D
Quote from: Steve J on 03 March 2015, 06:48:37 PM
How about tea flavoured jelly with ice cream? Does that appeal to you Ian ;)?
I'll eat the ice-cream (although I shouldn't), and throw the jelly up. :-& :-& :-& :-bd m/ m/ m/
IanS
Quote from: ianrs54 on 04 March 2015, 08:31:00 AM
I'll eat the ice-cream (although I shouldn't), and throw the jelly up. :-& :-& :-& :-bd m/ m/ m/
IanS
Nice photo Ian ;D
Just found this thread so will ignore all the twaddle it has undoubtedly developed into and answer the question. Alcohol and wargaming do not mix. Never drink while playing and seldom go to the pub after a game. A friend of mine did on one occasion, lost his cool in a heated discussion over something trivial. threw his beer over the chap he was arguing with and left the club for good. Other than a pleasant accompaniment to a meal, alcohol is a waste of space (and money, that could be spent on shinies etc.).
Quote from: Leman on 04 March 2015, 08:47:37 AM
Just found this thread so will ignore all the twaddle it has undoubtedly developed into and answer the question. Alcohol and wargaming do not mix. Never drink while playing and seldom go to the pub after a game. A friend of mine did on one occasion, lost his cool in a heated discussion over something trivial. threw his beer over the chap he was arguing with and left the club for good. Other than a pleasant accompaniment to a meal, alcohol is a waste of space (and money, that could be spent on shinies etc.).
Agree with all of that apart from the last line ;)
The local club met in licensed premises all the time I was a member, still does as far as I know, and I'm not aware of a single incident that was down to the availability of alcohol.
Scotsmen, engaged in a confrontational pastime, consuming alcohol and remaining civil .... the reputation of our race is ruined! :o :D ;D ;D
Yeah, our club meets in a YHA with alcohol available throughout the meeting. Yes, we do get some spirited arguments, but never anything remotely violent.
Quote from: Hertsblue on 04 March 2015, 12:40:34 PM
Yeah, our club meets in a YHA with alcohol available throughout the meeting. Yes, we do get some spirited arguments, but never anything remotely violent.
It's the "spirited" that's the problem for me.
We meet in a social club - with cheap beer available. 1 or at most 2 drunk, as I have to drive.
IanS (with another piccy)
I don't drink, full stop. Got a dodgy gut, so would end up being ill and then have explosive gastric wind for the rest of the week.
Well, if you lot ever try to make me stop drinking while playing I'll have to cancel my Pendraken Account, as it won't be needed.
This has got to be the worst thing that can happen to a wargamer under the affluence of incahol.
http://www.edinburghwargames.com/SYW%20Prussian%20Army.htm
Beware all you partakers of the Falling Down Water!
Ouch!
The fact you still talk to him should earn you Sainthood O:-)
For a dreadful second I thought it was Dougie from the Falkland's thread!
Quote from: Subedai on 04 March 2015, 07:55:18 PM
This has got to be the worst thing that can happen to a wargamer under the affluence of incahol.
http://www.edinburghwargames.com/SYW%20Prussian%20Army.htm
Beware all you partakers of the Falling Down Water!
Unfortunately, I cannot find it, but Angus also has another story there somewhere in his website/blog when he turned up at the SESWC rather the worse for wear following a Publisher's reception party in Edinburgh that day. For those who don't know, Angus Konstam is also an author of loads of historical books (including a few Ospreys) and a co-author of Die Kriegkunst. I've never met him though a follower of his website/blog for a number of years. The first time I saw him in the flesh was in Edinburgh when he walked in front of my parked car with his dog with me sitting at the wheel having an angina attack! I'm sure he looked my way. God knows what he might have thought I was up to in there! :o
It is really quite simple.
If drinking and playing wargames at the same time causes a problem...YOU ARE PLAYING WITH THE WRONG PEOPLE!!!!! ;D :d :d :d
Evening games with Last Hussar apart (who can't really accuse me of cheating, it's his own dice that cause him to regularly snatch defeat from the jaws of victory) most of my regular gaming companions have been known to partake of a drink or two at lunchtimes during all day games, with never any problems. Well sometimes an issue with Just a Few Orcs, but that's him and nothing to do with alcohol. :-\ :P
Agree to a point but I just don't enjoy the game as much if I'm drinking.
SJ - Irish. That's all I'm saying. Irish. :d
Also it's not just my dice rolling (though the numerous turns I sat not moving on Thursday are obviously my dice'f fault),but his. The man is a staticians nightmare.
I roll perfectly averagely (is that grammatically correct?), 33.3% low, 33.3% high and 33.3% in the middle. It's not my fault I tend to roll high when I need to roll high and low when I need to roll low! :d :d :d
You know that leaves 0.01 of unexpected results! ;)
That will explain the '7'.
Quote from: sunjester on 08 March 2015, 10:56:27 AM
I roll perfectly averagely (is that grammatically correct?), 33.3% low, 33.3% high and 33.3% in the middle. It's not my fault I tend to roll high when I need to roll high and low when I need to roll low! :d :d :d
;D
Tend to find though, when the dice
do eventually even out, by then one army will be in bits!
Guess who's...
Quote from: Last Hussar on 08 March 2015, 09:59:45 PM
Guess who's...
...Coming to Dinner.
Why isn't this in the quotations thread?
As Gareth says......OUCH ! :(
Cheers - Phil
Quote from: Techno on 09 March 2015, 07:46:37 AM
As Gareth says......OUCH ! :(
Cheers - Phil
Wasn't that ET?
Of course. It's so clear after it's been explained.
Quote from: sunjester on 07 March 2015, 12:13:25 AM
Well sometimes an issue with Just a Few Orcs, but that's him and nothing to do with alcohol. :-\ :P
I resemble that remark :D