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Title: What models to buy to create a Volkssturm battalion?
Post by: Lord Raffles on 02 March 2015, 07:55:19 PM
What models would people recommend to build a battalion of Volkssturm for Blitzkrieg Commander?
Title: Re: What models to buy to create a Volkssturm battalion?
Post by: gregernest on 02 March 2015, 08:11:56 PM
GR1,2,4,6,7.  Not that I own any (yet).  :D

It's more a matter of how you mix them, really.  I'm the local German player for WWII stuff, so I've got books and bags of lead of all sorts throughout the war.  Two other scales, however.

I believe they did not have many MG's, more SMG's and panzerfausts.  Throw in the occasional NCO and you're good!  8)
Title: Re: What models to buy to create a Volkssturm battalion?
Post by: getagrip on 02 March 2015, 08:45:49 PM
Panzerfausts on bicycle too.  I think the paint job should also go a long way to creating the "rag tag" look.

Welcome aboard Raffles ;)
Title: Re: What models to buy to create a Volkssturm battalion?
Post by: Steve J on 02 March 2015, 08:51:25 PM
Welcome on board Raffles.

First thoughts are to look at some of the Afrika Korps figures, WWI and SCW to give you a real mix of stuff. Hope this helps?
Title: Re: What models to buy to create a Volkssturm battalion?
Post by: getagrip on 02 March 2015, 08:53:17 PM
Quote from: Steve J on 02 March 2015, 08:51:25 PM
Welcome on board Raffles.

First thoughts are to look at some of the Afrika Korps figures, WWI and SCW to give you a real mix of stuff. Hope this helps?

Anything that doesn't look too regimented would work.
Title: Re: What models to buy to create a Volkssturm battalion?
Post by: fsn on 02 March 2015, 09:01:37 PM
What ho! Raffles!

Welcome to the forum. May your stay be long and fruitful.
Title: Re: What models to buy to create a Volkssturm battalion?
Post by: gregernest on 02 March 2015, 09:03:55 PM
Ooh!  Missed that one on the bike until now.  Neat!
Title: Re: What models to buy to create a Volkssturm battalion?
Post by: getagrip on 02 March 2015, 09:06:20 PM
Quote from: gregernest on 02 March 2015, 09:03:55 PM
Ooh!  Missed that one on the bike until now.  Neat!

(http://www.treefrogtreasures.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=68050&d=1304153298)
Title: Re: What models to buy to create a Volkssturm battalion?
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 02 March 2015, 09:06:41 PM
Hello Raffles!
Title: Re: What models to buy to create a Volkssturm battalion?
Post by: fsn on 02 March 2015, 09:08:13 PM
Quote from: getagrip on 02 March 2015, 09:06:20 PM
(http://www.treefrogtreasures.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=68050&d=1304153298)

Oooh! You wouldn't want to go over the handlebars would you?
Title: Re: What models to buy to create a Volkssturm battalion?
Post by: getagrip on 02 March 2015, 09:09:22 PM
Quote from: fsn on 02 March 2015, 09:08:13 PM
Oooh! You wouldn't want to go over the handlebars would you?

;D ;D ;D =O =O =O
Title: Re: What models to buy to create a Volkssturm battalion?
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 02 March 2015, 09:32:35 PM
Hello LR

I'd mix in some WW1 Austrians and Serbs, VBCW civilians in flat caps (BR154), SCW militia (SCW10) and Boers without the hat brim upturned:-

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ffcdlE1avNY/ULi38mGm9wI/AAAAAAAABLM/KHO1xrfdgiY/s320/P1020160.JPG)(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Eyvmr98pcS8/ULi3r0MCsKI/AAAAAAAABK0/9ai37x7j7aU/s320/P1020157-001.JPG)(http://www.pendraken.co.uk/ProductImages/BR154.jpg)(http://www.pendraken.co.uk/ProductImages/SCW10.jpg)(http://www.pendraken.co.uk/ProductImages/BW38.jpg)

But that's just me  :D.

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan (Have we tried switching off the 'Preview' message box and switching it back on again?)
Title: Re: What models to buy to create a Volkssturm battalion?
Post by: getagrip on 02 March 2015, 09:41:30 PM
Good post grumpy, what's the code for the guy top left?
Title: Re: What models to buy to create a Volkssturm battalion?
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 02 March 2015, 10:24:31 PM
Hello getagrip

The guys top left are the AH1 WW1 Austrians in cap, but I believe the standing firing guy is from the Afrika Korp.

While looking through Pendraken lists I did see GR144 Volksturm with panzerfaust, haven't seen it but it might fit into a Volkssturm battalion  :D, maybe in partnership with GR45 Infantry pushing loaded bicycle.

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan
Title: Re: What models to buy to create a Volkssturm battalion?
Post by: getagrip on 02 March 2015, 10:27:07 PM
Thanks.  I'm currently trying to decide if I do BKC in 10mm on a small scale or 6mm on a larger scale (if you'll pardon the oxymoron.

If I'm honest,  I'll probably do both  :)
Title: Re: What models to buy to create a Volkssturm battalion?
Post by: Steve J on 03 March 2015, 07:02:57 AM
QuoteI'm currently trying to decide if I do BKC in 10mm on a small scale or 6mm on a larger scale

Personally I'd recommend 10mm. I've played Cold War Commander in 6mm, and whilst the tanks etc are ok, it's a bugger to differentiate troop types one on the table. 10mm also looks better as a game for WWII IMHO.
Title: Re: What models to buy to create a Volkssturm battalion?
Post by: getagrip on 03 March 2015, 08:04:55 AM
Quote from: Steve J on 03 March 2015, 07:02:57 AM
Personally I'd recommend 10mm. I've played Cold War Commander in 6mm, and whilst the tanks etc are ok, it's a bugger to differentiate troop types one on the table. 10mm also looks better as a game for WWII IMHO.

I agree on both counts Steve but I know I'll end up fighting bigger and bigger battles and, 10mm is both considerably more expensive and needs loads more storage space. :-\
Title: Re: What models to buy to create a Volkssturm battalion?
Post by: Orcs on 03 March 2015, 11:11:20 AM

At the club we play 10mm on a relatively large scale.  Just make sure you have lots of terrain.
Title: Re: What models to buy to create a Volkssturm battalion?
Post by: getagrip on 03 March 2015, 12:15:26 PM
Quote from: Just a few Orcs on 03 March 2015, 11:11:20 AM
At the club we play 10mm on a relatively large scale.  Just make sure you have lots of terrain.

I think that applies to any "Warmaster" based game.

What size table do you play on Orcs?
Title: Re: What models to buy to create a Volkssturm battalion?
Post by: Lord Raffles on 03 March 2015, 12:43:44 PM
Quote from: GrumpyOldMan on 02 March 2015, 09:32:35 PM
Hello LR

I'd mix in some WW1 Austrians and Serbs, VBCW civilians in flat caps (BR154), SCW militia (SCW10) and Boers without the hat brim upturned:-

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ffcdlE1avNY/ULi38mGm9wI/AAAAAAAABLM/KHO1xrfdgiY/s320/P1020160.JPG)(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Eyvmr98pcS8/ULi3r0MCsKI/AAAAAAAABK0/9ai37x7j7aU/s320/P1020157-001.JPG)(http://www.pendraken.co.uk/ProductImages/BR154.jpg)(http://www.pendraken.co.uk/ProductImages/SCW10.jpg)(http://www.pendraken.co.uk/ProductImages/BW38.jpg)

But that's just me  :D.

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan (Have we tried switching off the 'Preview' message box and switching it back on again?)


Excellent choices, I never would have thought of Serbs and Austraians!

Just made my purchase :D
Title: Re: What models to buy to create a Volkssturm battalion?
Post by: gregernest on 03 March 2015, 07:29:11 PM
We will want some pics when you're done.  8)

I've already made commitment to show my FoG camps when I get them done.  Waiting for the box to hit the porch right now...  :'(
Title: Re: What models to buy to create a Volkssturm battalion?
Post by: petercooman on 03 March 2015, 07:41:01 PM
Quote from: getagrip on 03 March 2015, 08:04:55 AM
I agree on both counts Steve but I know I'll end up fighting bigger and bigger battles and, 10mm is both considerably more expensive and needs loads more storage space. :-\


Ihave shown it before and i'll show it again, these are my BKC armies. I originally wanted to have two 2000 point armies to play against my buddy'sforces. Guess i ended up bigger too  ;D

(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff441/petercooman123/DSC02903_zpsfa7fd01b.jpg) (http://s1236.photobucket.com/user/petercooman123/media/DSC02903_zpsfa7fd01b.jpg.html)
Title: Re: What models to buy to create a Volkssturm battalion?
Post by: getagrip on 03 March 2015, 07:42:42 PM
Wow, that's a thing of beauty  :-bd
Title: Re: What models to buy to create a Volkssturm battalion?
Post by: petercooman on 03 March 2015, 07:58:31 PM
Quote from: getagrip on 03 March 2015, 07:42:42 PM
Wow, that's a thing of beauty  :-bd

It's also an outdated picture, I think i have added another box since then, and almost doubled the planes.  :D :D :D
Title: Re: What models to buy to create a Volkssturm battalion?
Post by: getagrip on 03 March 2015, 08:17:27 PM
Quote from: petercooman on 03 March 2015, 07:58:31 PM
It's also an outdated picture, I think i have added another box since then, and almost doubled the planes.  :D :D :D

Are they 6mm?

Also,  would you please be able to give me a sample army list you've actually used?  :)
Title: Re: What models to buy to create a Volkssturm battalion?
Post by: gregernest on 03 March 2015, 08:19:59 PM
Quote from: petercooman on 03 March 2015, 07:41:01 PM
Ihave shown it before and i'll show it again, these are my BKC armies. I originally wanted to have two 2000 point armies to play against my buddy'sforces. Guess i ended up bigger too  ;D
Neato!  If only I didn't have to tilt my head so far to the left.  :P
Title: Re: What models to buy to create a Volkssturm battalion?
Post by: Ithoriel on 03 March 2015, 08:29:26 PM
I just right-click on the picture and then Rotate Right. Impressive selection.

I'd say they were 10mm getagrip
Title: Re: What models to buy to create a Volkssturm battalion?
Post by: getagrip on 03 March 2015, 08:38:02 PM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 03 March 2015, 08:29:26 PM
I just right-click on the picture and then Rotate Right. Impressive selection.

I'd say they were 10mm getagrip

Thought so.... Wow!   That's a lot of lead.
Title: Re: What models to buy to create a Volkssturm battalion?
Post by: gregernest on 03 March 2015, 08:50:17 PM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 03 March 2015, 08:29:26 PM
I just right-click on the picture and then Rotate Right.
I'm in Firefox in Windows 8.  Don't see that option.  ???
Title: Re: What models to buy to create a Volkssturm battalion?
Post by: fred. on 03 March 2015, 08:59:46 PM
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Mxtyj7cUDws/UCAZANaIXJI/AAAAAAAACRU/91IY-f_0G2M/s1280/IMG_3070.jpg)
Title: Re: What models to buy to create a Volkssturm battalion?
Post by: Ithoriel on 03 March 2015, 09:09:12 PM
Quote from: gregernest on 03 March 2015, 08:50:17 PM
I'm in Firefox in Windows 8.  Don't see that option.  ???

I have Firefox and Windows 7 so perhaps it's the Image Zoom add-on that's letting me rotate the image? There are lots of interesting add-ons for Firefox that I have loaded and I often struggle to remember which one does what!
Title: Re: What models to buy to create a Volkssturm battalion?
Post by: fred. on 03 March 2015, 09:10:23 PM
Back on track - remembered that I put together this diagram a few years ago

http://www.kerynne.com/games/GermanRegt.html

(http://www.kerynne.com/games/images/GermanKG/German%20Grenadier%20Regiment.gif)

Which even shows that 7.5cm guns as support and as AT!!
Title: Re: What models to buy to create a Volkssturm battalion?
Post by: getagrip on 03 March 2015, 09:14:10 PM
Perfect.  Thanks Fred  :-bd

You got one of them for mechanised and panzer too?  B)
Title: Re: What models to buy to create a Volkssturm battalion?
Post by: fred. on 03 March 2015, 09:23:27 PM
Not for the Germans - do have the British ones if you follow the link.

Panzer is pretty straight forward 3-5 PzIV, 3-5 Panthers, some SPGs

Mech is half a panzer and half an infantry.
Title: Re: What models to buy to create a Volkssturm battalion?
Post by: petercooman on 03 March 2015, 09:23:47 PM
Quote from: getagrip on 03 March 2015, 08:17:27 PM
Are they 6mm?



almost everything is pendraken,only half a dozen pithead vehicles in there.


As you can see, fred is also firmly in the 'mistakes were made' camp

(http://i1236.photobucket.com/albums/ff441/petercooman123/mistakes%20were%20made_zpslxnqkrbw.png) (http://s1236.photobucket.com/user/petercooman123/media/mistakes%20were%20made_zpslxnqkrbw.png.html)
Title: Re: What models to buy to create a Volkssturm battalion?
Post by: getagrip on 03 March 2015, 09:34:11 PM
 ;D ;D ;D

Thanks Fred, those charts are gold dust  ;)
Title: Re: What models to buy to create a Volkssturm battalion?
Post by: petercooman on 03 March 2015, 09:41:29 PM
Quote from: getagrip on 03 March 2015, 08:17:27 PM


Also,  would you please be able to give me a sample army list you've actually used?  :)

There are a few batreps on here that i did with the armylists mentioned:

one from normandy:
http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8367.0.html

and one from late eastern front:
http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8283.0.html

And then a few who have no army list, but the forces are pretty obvious anyway :

http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8985.0.html
http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8898.0.html
Title: Re: What models to buy to create a Volkssturm battalion?
Post by: getagrip on 03 March 2015, 09:47:25 PM
Quote from: petercooman on 03 March 2015, 09:41:29 PM
There are a few batreps on here that i did with the armylists mentioned:

one from normandy:
http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8367.0.html

and one from late eastern front:
http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8283.0.html

And then a few who have no army list, but the forces are pretty obvious anyway :

http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8985.0.html
http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8898.0.html

You are a gentleman; thanks Peter  :)
Title: Re: What models to buy to create a Volkssturm battalion?
Post by: petercooman on 03 March 2015, 09:48:29 PM
Don't know about the gentleman part, but you're welcome  ;D
Title: Re: What models to buy to create a Volkssturm battalion?
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 03 March 2015, 10:47:11 PM
Cripes!  :o
Title: Re: What models to buy to create a Volkssturm battalion?
Post by: getagrip on 03 March 2015, 11:00:06 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 03 March 2015, 10:47:11 PM
Cripes!  :o

;D ;D ;D

You know perfectly well what he meant  :P
Title: Re: What models to buy to create a Volkssturm battalion?
Post by: petercooman on 03 March 2015, 11:10:07 PM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D