Hi Leon,
After reading Peter G Tsouras's Britannia's Fist and his newbook A Rainbow of Blood, I have noticed that there is a gap in the market for companies producing 1860s British Army. I know your excellent Crimean War British can fill the gap, esp the Guards, Highlander and Infantry with Pork Pie Hat will fit in very good.
I was wondering if you could produce a small range of figures that could fill the gap from the Crimean War to the Zulu War, if there is demand from other customers.
I was thinking of the following packs
12 pdr Armstrong Breach Loading Guns, with 1860s British Artillery Crew.
Bristish Naval Brigade, Royal Marines in 1860s Dress
Canadian Volunteer Infantry Regiment
Canadian Volunteer Rifle Regiment (Which could be used for Crimean War Rifle Brigade)
Canadian Volunteer Cavalry
Canadian Volunteer Artillery (Using the cannon from the Crimean War Foot Artillery)
British Cavalry on Campaingn in Canada with Carbines / Sabres
Hope this may pick up some interest on the board
With Regards
Simon
That's an interesting little area, one that's never actually been mentioned before. I'll put it on the lists and see how much interest it gains.
You can add my vote to that.
France and Prussian invade 1860s England excellent. Always fancied that "what if" campaign.
Hi Yorstons,
Thats a very good Idea, they could be used for the Battle of Dorking which was written in 1870, also fighting against the Finean Invasions of 1866 in Canada
Simon
1860 / Early 1870s British Oppenants
The range could be used for fighting Armies for the Following Nations, all What ifs
ACW: Trent War- British Invasion of Maine in 1862
Danish-Prussian War - The British siding with Denmark in 1864
British-Hannover Vs Prussia: Britain does not loose Hannover in 1836
Anglo-French War 1860s
Morie War in New Zealand 1860s
Fienian Invasions of Canada 1860s
Simon
"That's an interesting little area, one that's never actually been mentioned before. I'll put it on the lists and see how much interest it gains."
Actually Leon, I discussed this with Dave sometime back. This was in preparation for the anniversary of the battle of Rideway in 1866 (Fenian Raids in Canada) so it must have been 2004/2005. I supplied a 'Pendraken' designer with some illustrative material and even agreed a provisional range of poses with Dave. Alas for whatever reason the project did not go ahead. A range 1860s British and/or Canadian militia would not be a stand alone as it could provide a useful base for the later Indian Mutiny (of course you would need an earlier Indian Mutiny range as well!) as well as some of the oddball campaigns such as China 1860 and even with some tweaking the Anglo-Maori land wars of the 1860s-1870s. Crimean figures really would not cut the mustard as 1860s Brits
The "what if" campaign to top 'em all is a French invasion of Britain during the Jacobite rising. What a world we might have been living in today! I'd probably not have been writing this in English, for a start. Nom d'un chat!
Well, OK, a 17th century Japanese-European colonial struggle, and Alexander the Great's living long enough to invade the western Mediterranean and China...why didn't history think more about the needs of wargamers yet unborn?
Quote from: Bill Braham on 25 November 2010, 12:40:55 AM
"That's an interesting little area, one that's never actually been mentioned before. I'll put it on the lists and see how much interest it gains."
Actually Leon, I discussed this with Dave sometime back. This was in preparation for the anniversary of the battle of Rideway in 1866 (Fenian Raids in Canada) so it must have been 2004/2005. I supplied a 'Pendraken' designer with some illustrative material and even agreed a provisional range of poses with Dave. Alas for whatever reason the project did not go ahead. A range 1860s British and/or Canadian militia would not be a stand alone as it could provide a useful base for the later Indian Mutiny (of course you would need an earlier Indian Mutiny range as well!) as well as some of the oddball campaigns such as China 1860 and even with some tweaking the Anglo-Maori land wars of the 1860s-1870s. Crimean figures really would not cut the mustard as 1860s Brits
Ah, I've just asked Dave about it, and he remembers all the info. I think it must have been put on hold for whatever reason. If the interest is there, we could look at it again.
Quote from: Leon on 25 November 2010, 07:31:38 PM
Ah, I've just asked Dave about it, and he remembers all the info. I think it must have been put on hold for whatever reason. If the interest is there, we could look at it again.
The interest is definitely there (or here in this case)! I would love to see Bill's ideas make it to tabletop. Not only would I buy the Canadian figures, but I would have to buy American Civil War figures for them to go against, so Pendraken gets even more sales!
Darryl
After the programme on Channel 5 last night about the American invasion of Canada in 1930 (yes, they were planning it), it would be a fun game to try! Especially as the British cannily avoided getting sucked into the ACW, would it have changed anything (probably not, the South never had the infrastructure, but ho hum)...
Historical conjecture is great: "Haraold, duck!" or "Richard, look, charging without the rest of your army is really silly!" have to be the two classics...
I'd build an army for the defense of Canadian liberty!
My wife would love it if there were Mounties ;D
I suspect that the major intervention would have been at sea, probably on the Confederate side. At the time we wuz worried about the Damnd Froggies, again. Means few troops would have been avaliable for the Americas. There's also the problem that we might have won it back, undoing all George III's good work in getting rid of the place.
IanS ;)
Very interested. I wrote an article for Miniature Wargames about The Pig War (2005 I think), where there was a 13 year face off between US and British Forces on San Juan Island off Vancouver Island. Excellent breeding ground for 'what if?' scenarios.
Quote from: Leveller Mutineer on 21 September 2011, 04:09:58 PM
Very interested. I wrote an article for Miniature Wargames about The Pig War (2005 I think), where there was a 13 year face off between US and British Forces on San Juan Island off Vancouver Island. Excellent breeding ground for 'what if?' scenarios.
What would the British uniform on San Juan Island look like? The Pig War would have been mid 1850s, so Crimean War style or something more 1866 like? I reallt want to see Canadian militia in both pork pie hats and shakos!
Quote from: Buckeye on 21 September 2011, 07:20:01 PM
What would the British uniform on San Juan Island look like? The Pig War would have been mid 1850s, so Crimean War style or something more 1866 like? I reallt want to see Canadian militia in both pork pie hats and shakos!
The confrontation lasted from 1859 until 1872. The British forces were made up of Marines and, from the contemporary pictures I've seen, the Crimean War figs in the pork pie hats would do splendidly.
The pig (the only casualty), however, is a different prospect. At first I though it might be a Tamworth, but they were only imported to the Americas in 1882. It could have been an American Yorkshire which were imported in 1830, but I can only trace them to Ohio. Then I found references to the pig being a 'black boar' which narrowed the search parameters somewhat. Then I come across an account that mentions the Berkshire breed. Now I can't find out when they were imported to the Americas, but they are one of (if not, the) oldest breed of domestic pig in Britain and are black in colour. So, at the moment, that's the favourite.
So, Leon, I've not looked to see if there's any pigs on the main site, but if there isn't would you consider including couple of Berkshire's in the next releases?
I tell you what, though. I wonder what the pig would have felt about the Brit's pork pie hat :-\
It's worth remembering that the French and USA (Union) were pretty damm hostile towards each other over affiars in Mexico during this period. Indeed at the end of the ACW I believe the Union had a substantial number of troops on the US/Mexican border and there were at least some reasonably serious discussions about intervening in Mexico on behalf of Juarez. The US certainly did supply the Juaristas with lots of uniforms and weapons.
Now to be honest I think there was very little chance of any actual hostilities happening but it does present some very interesting options.
Dave Turner
Hi
Quote from: Leveller Mutineer on 23 September 2011, 10:01:19 AM
So, Leon, I've not looked to see if there's any pigs on the main site, but if there isn't would you consider including couple of Berkshire's in the next releases?
If you are serious about getting 10mm pigs they are available from PD marsh and Gem model Railways in N Gauge :D :D. However they may require conversion work to make them look like Berkshires ;D ;D ;D
Cheers
GrumpyOldMan