Pendraken Miniatures Forum

Wider Wargaming => Non-Pendraken Stuff => Topic started by: getagrip on 28 February 2015, 02:04:57 PM

Title: BKC in 6mm
Post by: getagrip on 28 February 2015, 02:04:57 PM
I am planning to build a couple of BKC armies and am thinking of using 6mm.

I've looked at the options available and realised that the price and quality of minis is incredibly varied.

So suggestions please, ideally I'd like to use a single range with the most variants.

Do you have a similar army?  Open to ideas.
Title: Re: BKC in 6mm
Post by: Subedai on 28 February 2015, 02:45:41 PM
I have a German late war panzer division and a Russian force with a lot of the support vehicles. Most of it is Heroics and Ross
http://www.heroicsandros.co.uk/

with a few backups from Irregular.
http://www.irregularminiatures.co.uk/

The quality of the former is really quite good while the latter is varied.

Title: Re: BKC in 6mm
Post by: getagrip on 28 February 2015, 03:01:09 PM
Quote from: Subedai on 28 February 2015, 02:45:41 PM
I have a German late war panzer division and a Russian force with a lot of the support vehicles. Most of it is Heroics and Ross
http://www.heroicsandros.co.uk/

with a few backups from Irregular.
http://www.irregularminiatures.co.uk/

The quality of the former is really quite good while the latter is varied.



Thanks Sub, I was thinking of H&R; they seem to strike a good balance between quality and price.

How good do H&R infantry look?
Title: Re: BKC in 6mm
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 28 February 2015, 04:35:24 PM
Quote from: getagrip on 28 February 2015, 03:01:09 PM
Thanks Sub, I was thinking of H&R; they seem to strike a good balance between quality and price.

How good do H&R infantry look?

Far better than the vastly over hyped GHQ stuff.

IanS
Title: Re: BKC in 6mm
Post by: getagrip on 28 February 2015, 04:41:34 PM
Quote from: ianrs54 on 28 February 2015, 04:35:24 PM
Far better than the vastly over hyped GHQ stuff.

IanS

I thought the GHQ minis look really good but far too expensive.  You can almost get 3 10mm tanks for the price of 5 of their 6mm's!
Title: Re: BKC in 6mm
Post by: GordonY on 28 February 2015, 04:53:57 PM
The only downside of H&R infantry is their size, they are more 5mm than 6mm, have you taken a look at Adler stuff? http://home.clara.net/adlermin/

or http://home.clara.net/adlermin/WW2/WW2PAGES/WW2OPENINGPAGE.htm

Theyre cheap enough, and the quality is good.
Title: Re: BKC in 6mm
Post by: getagrip on 28 February 2015, 04:59:21 PM
Quote from: GordonY on 28 February 2015, 04:53:57 PM
The only downside of H&R infantry is their size, they are more 5mm than 6mm, have you taken a look at Adler stuff? http://home.clara.net/adlermin/

or http://home.clara.net/adlermin/WW2/WW2PAGES/WW2OPENINGPAGE.htm

Theyre cheap enough, and the quality is good.

Yeah I agree Gordon, the H&R minis look "thin."

Not sure about Adler; they look a bit chunky  :-\
Title: Re: BKC in 6mm
Post by: jchaos79 on 28 February 2015, 05:19:43 PM
I recommend you Heroic and Ross

best Quality/price for real 6mm 
Title: Re: BKC in 6mm
Post by: getagrip on 28 February 2015, 05:21:29 PM
Thanks, the "problem" with this forum is there are so many different opinions and they're all good  :)
Title: Re: BKC in 6mm
Post by: GordonY on 28 February 2015, 05:55:56 PM
You c an always ask for samples from all the manufacturers cost should be just a touch over minimum postage. Try painting the samples and see which ones you like best.
Title: Re: BKC in 6mm
Post by: getagrip on 28 February 2015, 05:58:22 PM
Quote from: GordonY on 28 February 2015, 05:55:56 PM
You c an always ask for samples from all the manufacturers cost should be just a touch over minimum postage. Try painting the samples and see which ones you like best.

Great iidea, might give that a go; thanks for the help Gordon  ;)
Title: Re: BKC in 6mm
Post by: toxicpixie on 28 February 2015, 06:15:27 PM
Tbh apart from GHQ 6mm is cheap enough you can bung a few battalions together just to see which ones you like :D

My vehicles are mostly H&R - generally excellent at excellent prices. GHQ's infantry are indifferent at best and I find many of their vehicles are "over done" (even without the huge price difference I'm not a great fan - and tbh you might as well go 10mm for their prices!). I've found Scotia & others to be like H&R but more variable in quality/crispness of sculpt.

For infantry I'm generally with Adler these days as they're a bit chunkier and I prefer them :)
Title: Re: BKC in 6mm
Post by: getagrip on 28 February 2015, 06:19:26 PM
Thanks all.

By general consensus, it will be H&R vehicles with Adler infantry  ;)
Title: Re: BKC in 6mm
Post by: toxicpixie on 28 February 2015, 08:05:24 PM
Wise choice, a decent sized battlegroup will only roll you back a tenner at worst :) Although I then find the temptation to expand hard to resist ;)
Title: Re: BKC in 6mm
Post by: getagrip on 28 February 2015, 08:11:10 PM
Quote from: toxicpixie on 28 February 2015, 08:05:24 PM
Wise choice, a decent sized battlegroup will only roll you back a tenner at worst :) Although I then find the temptation to expand hard to resist ;)

If I get out for £50 I'll be happy.  I tend to go a "bit" mad  :-[
Title: Re: BKC in 6mm
Post by: Subedai on 28 February 2015, 08:16:16 PM
My infantry are H&R and I find them in scale with the vehicles, it was a bit of a bu**er painting the camo smocks on the infantry though. Which is why I only painted one battalion instead of the nine. In 6mm WW II that would have been silly.
Title: Re: BKC in 6mm
Post by: getagrip on 28 February 2015, 08:24:28 PM
Quote from: Subedai on 28 February 2015, 08:16:16 PM
My infantry are H&R and I find them in scale with the vehicles, it was a bit of a bu**er painting the camo smocks on the infantry though. Which is why I only painted one battalion instead of the nine. In 6mm WW II that would have been silly.

What do you think of Adler?
Title: Re: BKC in 6mm
Post by: Fenton on 28 February 2015, 08:26:13 PM
I like them. Probably too big for H&R tanks though fit in pretty well with GHQ
Title: Re: BKC in 6mm
Post by: getagrip on 28 February 2015, 08:29:34 PM
Quote from: Fenton on 28 February 2015, 08:26:13 PM
I like them. Probably too big for H&R tanks though fit in pretty well with GHQ

Aggggghhhhhhhh!  ~X(
Title: Re: BKC in 6mm
Post by: Fenton on 28 February 2015, 08:41:16 PM
Ok

If it was me I would go H&R then maybe Irregular for infantry as some of it isnt that bad at all
Title: Re: BKC in 6mm
Post by: getagrip on 28 February 2015, 08:51:40 PM
Quote from: Fenton on 28 February 2015, 08:41:16 PM
Ok

If it was me I would go H&R then maybe Irregular for infantry as some of it isnt that bad at all

Looked at irregular; their casting looks shoddy  :-\
Title: Re: BKC in 6mm
Post by: Fenton on 28 February 2015, 08:54:38 PM
Some of them arent bad...some are shocking..

Scotia do infantry as well but not sure what its like
Title: Re: BKC in 6mm
Post by: Fenton on 28 February 2015, 08:55:22 PM
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/bob_mackenzie/6mm%20Infantry%20Comparison.htm
Title: Re: BKC in 6mm
Post by: Subedai on 28 February 2015, 08:57:20 PM
Quote from: getagrip on 28 February 2015, 08:24:28 PM
What do you think of Adler?

Not a clue. The place I got my stuff from sold the H&R inf as well, made sense to me.

Irregular aren't bad, I have their Japanese and Western Desert Brits, the Crusaders are a bit basic mind you. The advantage with Irregular is that you can get a variety of the same thing ie on some of my Russian T-34/85's  they have tank riders or bits of stowage moulded on. It really all depends on how much detail you want, after all, Peter Laing 15mm were a bit basic but with a half decent paint job they looked as good as anyone else's. The only potential problem with the Irregular infantry is that they come in 4 figs to a base for the PBI or 2 heavy weapons plus crews. If you use them as a squad you will be fine.
Title: Re: BKC in 6mm
Post by: getagrip on 28 February 2015, 09:02:37 PM
Thanks guys, all great advice.

I suppose the bottom line with the infantry is, if I don't like certain ones, they only cost pennies  ;)
Title: Re: BKC in 6mm
Post by: Fenton on 28 February 2015, 09:10:49 PM
Quote from: getagrip on 28 February 2015, 09:02:37 PM
Thanks guys, all great advice.

I suppose the bottom line with the infantry is, if I don't like certain ones, they only cost pennies  ;)

Well yes

Title: Re: BKC in 6mm
Post by: Fenton on 28 February 2015, 09:12:08 PM
Oh Baccus is going to be releasing the start of their WW2 ranges this year
Title: Re: BKC in 6mm
Post by: getagrip on 28 February 2015, 09:20:41 PM
Quote from: Fenton on 28 February 2015, 09:12:08 PM
Oh Baccus is going to be releasing the start of their WW2 ranges this year

Is that 6mm?
Title: Re: BKC in 6mm
Post by: Fenton on 28 February 2015, 09:22:01 PM
It will be
Title: Re: BKC in 6mm
Post by: toxicpixie on 28 February 2015, 09:47:38 PM
You should get two for that , both sides with the trimmings :D

Early war or "rubbish heavy" armies might be more awkward but even so infantry are cheap ;)

Title: Re: BKC in 6mm
Post by: getagrip on 28 February 2015, 09:51:46 PM
Quote from: toxicpixie on 28 February 2015, 09:47:38 PM
You should get two for that , both sides with the trimmings :D

Early war or "rubbish heavy" armies might be more awkward but even so infantry are cheap ;)



To kick off I want to do Eastern front 42 onwards.

What's rubbish heavy?
Title: Re: BKC in 6mm
Post by: Maenoferren on 28 February 2015, 11:02:06 PM
I went for 43 with my 6mm stuff...all Heroics and Ross both tanks and infantry... I havent touched them in about 15 years   :(

Title: Re: BKC in 6mm
Post by: toxicpixie on 28 February 2015, 11:31:55 PM
"Rubbish Heavy" - full of very cheap troops.

Say, early Russians with lots of dire tanks, poor HQs, conscript infantry. The sort of thing that means you end up buying a dozen tanks models to your enemies three, yet still feel under gunned and out numbered :D

Makes life expensive in actual cash, cheap on points ;)

Whereas the opposite extreme would be the veteran tank riders with all the trimmings riding ISU-152's and IS tanks, with beefed up HQs and some serious Sturmovik support. Gets expensive in points, but is cheap in models!

Mid war I find interesting - everyone's still trying to work out what they're doing, and the kit is between awful to good but nothing's very consistent yet :)
Title: Re: BKC in 6mm
Post by: getagrip on 01 March 2015, 12:46:49 AM
Thanks  :)

Yeah, I agree with you on mid-war.  It's also missing the uber units which can unbalance a game.