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Wider Wargaming => Painting & Modelling => Topic started by: Leman on 27 February 2015, 01:06:48 PM

Title: Wip FPW Dragoons - Inspiration to realisation
Post by: Leman on 27 February 2015, 01:06:48 PM
Whilst reading The Somme 1870-71 I came across an illustration of dismounted French dragoons in the Army of the North and decided to have a go at making some:

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g440/dourpuritan/Figurephotos2011/FPWphotos10mm/IMG_1452_zpsf5w5sv1w.jpg)


Looking through web based catalogues I came across Cracker Line 10mm ACW figures, supplied by Timecast, which had two codes of Union infantry firing line in greatcoat and Union infantry command in greatcoat. I had a look at these and decided they were close enough, owing to the greatcoat having a cape. I was more interested in doing a representation of dismounted winter dragoons rather than going for complette accuracy, with an unbelted and undone greatcoat. Consequently I cut the heads off 8 figures and attached dragoon heads. Some of the removed heads, wearing kepis, have been attached to the headless dragoons to produce a small number of mounted gendarmes. Greenstuff was used to complete the horsehair plumes once the dragoon heads were attached to the infantry bodies. Good quality Loctite superglue was used, as well as additional bonding from the Greenstuff. the rifles were also cut down to carbines, especially as most of them had bayonets. some of the kepi wearing infantry were kept as the were:

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g440/dourpuritan/Figurephotos2011/FPWphotos10mm/IMG_1453_zpsxgs45zdg.jpg)


Finally the standard bearer from the command pack was used as a horseholder with some of the Pendraken generic standing horses. The standard bearer figure comes without a standard pole. He seemed quite small compared to the horses, so when complete I shall mount him on a separate small base before basing with the horses.:


(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g440/dourpuritan/Figurephotos2011/FPWphotos10mm/IMG_1454_zps7yyd5sms.jpg)
Title: Re: Wip FPW Dragoons - Inspiration to realisation
Post by: Steve J on 27 February 2015, 01:53:12 PM
Looking good so far 8).
Title: Re: Wip FPW Dragoons - Inspiration to realisation
Post by: Chris Pringle on 27 February 2015, 01:53:53 PM
Very creative! Nice job!

And as well as at St Quentin, you could also use them if you ever fight Bazaine's abortive attempted breakout from Metz at Noisseville. My notes say this battle "saw a rare instance of French cavalry dismounting to fight as infantry, when Clérembault's dragoon division attacked first Colombey, then Coincy".

Hope you'll post some pics of them when they're ready for action in due course.

Chris
Title: Re: Wip FPW Dragoons - Inspiration to realisation
Post by: Leman on 27 February 2015, 02:30:07 PM
Thanks for the extra bit of info Chris. Working on them at the moment, whilst the tiny buildings in the background are bering worked on for Spicheren in 6mm. Next week at the club Shiloh to try out BBB.
Title: Re: Wip FPW Dragoons - Inspiration to realisation
Post by: Subedai on 27 February 2015, 02:48:35 PM
They are really good and I can't wait to see them finished. I reckon any historical inaccuracy with be offset by the conversions and paintjob. 
Title: Re: Wip FPW Dragoons - Inspiration to realisation
Post by: getagrip on 27 February 2015, 02:52:20 PM
Really subtle and effective piece of sculpting; nice job :-bd
Title: Re: Wip FPW Dragoons - Inspiration to realisation
Post by: Leman on 27 February 2015, 02:55:33 PM
The inaccuracy mainly comes from the pouches and water bottles, but scraping them off seemed to be too onerous and could have spoiled the figures, epecially as sculpting is not something I have a lot of experience in.
Title: Re: Wip FPW Dragoons - Inspiration to realisation
Post by: Techno on 27 February 2015, 03:14:24 PM
Good job, Bob !!
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Wip FPW Dragoons - Inspiration to realisation
Post by: Maenoferren on 27 February 2015, 04:00:03 PM
Looking good.
The ACW horses are huge. I had some in my Sudan army and to be honest I did the same as you. Mounted an infantryman on a cut up 2mm base to make him fit in a bit better. Not got a problem with tall horses, I have ridden 17.2's.
Title: Re: Wip FPW Dragoons - Inspiration to realisation
Post by: Leman on 07 March 2015, 02:20:31 PM
A couple of shots of the completed mounted dragoons for Amiens.

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g440/dourpuritan/Figurephotos2011/FPWphotos10mm/IMG_1462_zpssmssmxb1.jpg)

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g440/dourpuritan/Figurephotos2011/FPWphotos10mm/IMG_1466_zps3wkbxc3o.jpg)
Title: Re: Wip FPW Dragoons - Inspiration to realisation
Post by: getagrip on 07 March 2015, 02:25:23 PM
Nice job Leman; great to see a start to finish project  :-bd
Title: Re: Wip FPW Dragoons - Inspiration to realisation
Post by: Leman on 07 March 2015, 02:31:48 PM
Yes, very true. The dismounted versions should be done over the next few days.
Title: Re: Wip FPW Dragoons - Inspiration to realisation
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 07 March 2015, 03:02:44 PM
Superbly nice
Title: Re: Wip FPW Dragoons - Inspiration to realisation
Post by: paulr on 10 March 2015, 05:38:39 AM
 :-bd =D> :-bd
Title: Re: Wip FPW Dragoons - Inspiration to realisation
Post by: Techno on 10 March 2015, 05:52:50 AM
You should be very proud of those, Bob !
Great job !  :-bd
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Wip FPW Dragoons - Inspiration to realisation
Post by: jambo1 on 10 March 2015, 05:59:49 AM
They have turned out very nice indeed, look cracking! :-bd :-bd
Title: Re: Wip FPW Dragoons - Inspiration to realisation
Post by: Hertsblue on 10 March 2015, 11:14:34 AM
Nice work, Leman. Looking forward to seeing the dismounted group.  8)
Title: Re: Wip FPW Dragoons - Inspiration to realisation
Post by: Subedai on 10 March 2015, 02:57:52 PM
I like them. Just the dismounted chaps to go.
Title: Re: Wip FPW Dragoons - Inspiration to realisation
Post by: gregernest on 10 March 2015, 03:28:02 PM
Neat!  I like.  Really like to see the dismounts finished!

I tried to do something similar to the dismounts for my TYW project.  I just did not mod any figures.  Yet.
Title: Re: Wip FPW Dragoons - Inspiration to realisation
Post by: getagrip on 10 March 2015, 03:57:06 PM
Quote from: gregernest on 10 March 2015, 03:28:02 PM
Neat!  I like.  Really like to see the dismounts finished!


I agree with that! :-bd
Title: Re: Wip FPW Dragoons - Inspiration to realisation
Post by: FierceKitty on 10 March 2015, 04:00:46 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 07 March 2015, 03:02:44 PM
Superbly nice

Nicely superb.
Title: Re: Wip FPW Dragoons - Inspiration to realisation
Post by: getagrip on 10 March 2015, 04:03:29 PM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 10 March 2015, 04:00:46 PM
Nicely superb.

Oik patronising :D
Title: Re: Wip FPW Dragoons - Inspiration to realisation
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 10 March 2015, 05:20:54 PM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 10 March 2015, 04:00:46 PM
Nicely superb.
Nice. Superb. Lee.
Title: Re: Wip FPW Dragoons - Inspiration to realisation
Post by: Ithoriel on 10 March 2015, 05:25:46 PM
Fandabbydozy!
Title: Re: Wip FPW Dragoons - Inspiration to realisation
Post by: Chris Pringle on 10 March 2015, 05:53:32 PM
Nicely painted new troops about to be used for the first time? No doubt they will evaporate at the first Krupp salvo or needlegun volley. It's traditional.

But they are pretty!

Chris

Bloody Big BATTLES!
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Title: Re: Wip FPW Dragoons - Inspiration to realisation
Post by: getagrip on 10 March 2015, 05:57:16 PM
Quote from: Chris Pringle on 10 March 2015, 05:53:32 PM
Nicely painted new troops about to be used for the first time? No doubt they will evaporate at the first Krupp salvo or needlegun volley. It's traditional.

It really is ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Wip FPW Dragoons - Inspiration to realisation
Post by: Leman on 10 March 2015, 05:59:34 PM
Well, I did do some more work on them this morning, and will carry on this evening with horses and helmets, then basing which will take time to dry between texture and drybrushes, so I am looking at ........ Friday.
Title: Re: Wip FPW Dragoons - Inspiration to realisation
Post by: Leman on 15 March 2015, 06:48:37 PM
Finally got the dismounted stand completed. Just for the Army of the North, dragoons dismount to fire in winter gear. Realisation!

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g440/dourpuritan/Figurephotos2011/FPWphotos10mm/IMG_1467_zpstrnrqu8h.jpg)

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g440/dourpuritan/Figurephotos2011/FPWphotos10mm/IMG_1468_zpsomccjgpo.jpg)

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g440/dourpuritan/Figurephotos2011/FPWphotos10mm/IMG_1469_zpsh7i5ryn9.jpg)
Title: Re: Wip FPW Dragoons - Inspiration to realisation
Post by: getagrip on 15 March 2015, 06:50:57 PM
Love them Leman :-bd

The gap between the horses and the firing line really works.
Title: Re: Wip FPW Dragoons - Inspiration to realisation
Post by: paulr on 15 March 2015, 06:52:08 PM
 :-bd =D> :-bd =D>

A great mini diorama  :)
Title: Re: Wip FPW Dragoons - Inspiration to realisation
Post by: cbr3d.com on 15 March 2015, 06:56:02 PM
I think the inspiration, effort, and result deserve a damn good round of applause. 

=D> =D> =D> =D>
Title: Re: Wip FPW Dragoons - Inspiration to realisation
Post by: Hertsblue on 15 March 2015, 06:58:26 PM
A great little vignette, Leman. I like the way that some troopers have opted to wear their kepis.
Title: Re: Wip FPW Dragoons - Inspiration to realisation
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 15 March 2015, 07:00:28 PM
Brilliant
Title: Re: Wip FPW Dragoons - Inspiration to realisation
Post by: Techno on 15 March 2015, 07:25:19 PM
Great stuff, Bob !
Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: Wip FPW Dragoons - Inspiration to realisation
Post by: mollinary on 15 March 2015, 07:50:34 PM
Well done, TAFKADP!  Really like the idea, and it's realisation.

:D

Mollinary
Title: Re: Wip FPW Dragoons - Inspiration to realisation
Post by: Matt J on 16 March 2015, 10:08:44 AM
lovely bit of work  =D>
Title: Re: Wip FPW Dragoons - Inspiration to realisation
Post by: Steve J on 16 March 2015, 04:00:24 PM
Great little stand 8).
Title: Re: Wip FPW Dragoons - Inspiration to realisation
Post by: Leman on 16 March 2015, 05:10:28 PM
Thanks for the comments folks. My next project of this ilk will be mounted and dismounted Prussian hussars, and then mounted and dismounted French chasseurs a cheval. I've not seen any evidence yet for  other dismounted units in the FPW.
Title: Re: Wip FPW Dragoons - Inspiration to realisation
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 16 March 2015, 05:11:29 PM
Isn't there a picture somewhere of dismounted Uhlans?