I just thinking in the rulesets designs for 10mm miniatures, the list that came to my mind is
- Warmaster
- Warband
- Dropzone commander
- Hordes and heros
- (blietzkrieg commander / cold war commander / future war commander) ??
- Guns and colours
Do you know more games specifically design for 10mm?
Tiger Tiger burning bright
WWII rules from 20 odd years ago written for 1/200
All the games put out by Kallistra are for 10/12mm figures.
Johnny Reb III had specific playsheets and stand requirements for 10mm, especially as John Hill's own ACW armies were 10mm.
got another one, timeline 300
Quote from: Leman on 21 February 2015, 08:31:22 AM
All the games put out by Kallistra are for 10/12mm figures.
I thought kallistra have space dreadnought (not in scale) and hordes and heros. Are there others?
Kallistra also have a fantasy set, a Medieval/Ancients set and a WWI set. See their website. The rules are free.
Mayhem
IABSM They did all the playtesting in 10mm. The only reason they did make it an official 10mm scale is that there wasnt tank and infantry model range there is now
I think Battlefront by F&F was all playtested in 10mm as well
Does BOFA count or is that still Warmaster?
Whatever the latest Spartan Games land game is...That is all 10mm I think
Dystopian Legions? Or is that the bigger skirmish level one?
Battletech a "clicky tech" Mechwarrior minis game was 10mm IIRC. Although I always picture the allegedly 1/285th Battletech minis as about 10mm :)
That is right,
Kallistra rulesets based on hex are:
Raging Empires WWI
Heros and hordes (fantasy, hisotorical and siege)
Black Powder and Pike & Shotte both work excellently in 10mm. We use either cms instead- or 2/3s of the customary inches.
We played our Nieuwpoort game with Pike & Shotte.
I use cm with BP if 6mm or 10mm, some people halve everything, and some leave it the same. All work, although sticking with the original measurements can make firing ranges look too long.
IanS
We use Pike & Shot (with the "& Blenheim Palace" amendments from Last Hussar) for early ish horse & musket, and now Maurice. Pointy stick warfare we've been using Impetus at the club (80mm bases as for 15mm), and also Fire & Furia Francese for the Crimea.
None are explicitly designed for 10mm but all work very well and look very good!
Planetfall by Spartan games.
Quote from: ianrs54 on 21 February 2015, 01:06:34 PM
I use cm with BP if 6mm or 10mm, some people halve everything, and some leave it the same.
I'm not keen on substituting cm for inches and use my own 2/3rds and half scale Quick Reference Sheets for BP (can e-mail if you wish). I think I may have got the idea from the BP forum (so could try there also). Also have my own 2/3rds QRS for FoB2 (had to compromise with some ranges however, particularly musketry). Any rule set with BW (base widths) for measurements may be used also (e.g., Maurice).
Quote from: barbarian on 21 February 2015, 06:01:42 PM
Planetfall by Spartan games.
are these guys 10mm?
http://shop.spartangames.co.uk/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=PFTD01
Do not forget our 12 rule sets which all use 10mm Pendraken figures!
http://realtimewargames.webplus.net/index.html
Periods covered are:
Wars of the Roses
ECW
Marlburian
7YW
AWI
Shenandoah Valley 1862
1866,
Imperial Phase 1870
Republican Phase 1870
Soudan Wars
2nd Boer War
Great War Trench warfare
Quote from: Bernie on 21 February 2015, 08:21:50 PM
Do not forget our 12 rule sets which all use 10mm Pendraken figures!
http://realtimewargames.webplus.net/index.html
Periods covered are:
Wars of the Roses
ECW
Marlburian
7YW
AWI
Shenandoah Valley 1862
1866,
Imperial Phase 1870
Republican Phase 1870
Soudan Wars
2nd Boer War
Great War Trench warfare
That is interesting. Did not know about the existence of this wargame.
How many pages have those books? and.. could you tell us a little bit about how the games works/ mechanics/ rules engine ?
Using To the Last Gaiter Button as an example, the rule book contains both the campaign rules and the tabletop battle rules. The games take place between units occupying 10 inch squares (about 25cm), thus movement is so many squares, ranges are so many squares etc. The game also comes with two campaign maps, campaign charts and counters for the campaign (which incidentally look really good with colourful flags and so on). Bases are smaller than I usually prefer, and light infantry are recommended to be based on circular bases. the website has a lot of information about how the games work and photos as well.
The links dont work Bernie :(
Just worked perfectly well for me.
I was looking at them last night and they were fine
What has happened to 'When the leaves fall'?...I couldnt see it listed
These rules are new to me especially the 7yw, Marlburian and ACW ones. :-bd
Fenton, I think When the Leaves Fall is being replaced by Home by Christmas.
Cheers for that
Quote from: jchaos79 on 21 February 2015, 07:51:30 PM
are these guys 10mm?
http://shop.spartangames.co.uk/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=PFTD01
I think so.
The bigger Mech are 130mm high and large.
The rules are in free download I believe.
The 10mm set for the opening month or two of Great War will be out for Salute 2015. I will let you know when I get a stand number.
Titled "Home Before the Leaves Fall" will have a full campaign game, battlefield rules and system for doing one-off battles. Just working on a mini-campaign as well of 4-5 linked battles.
Just got back from Cavalier Tunbridge Wells show - excellent show - and checked the links on the website and they seem to be working
I would have thought there were very few rulesets which can't be adapted for 10mm figures. After all, it's largely base-sizes and shapes that determine how a given set works. In the days when rule mechanisms were based on rigid figures-scales it might have been a problem, but now rule writers go to great lengths to make their rules scale-neutral.
A fair point. I now adapt the scenarios from They died for Glory for use with other rules as the original rules rely on specific numbers per base and numbers of figures engaged - a real inflexible pain.
To the OP:
We use 10mm on 40mm frontage for Field of Glory, both A&M and Ren. If we ever got into the Nappy wars, we would do 10mm, too.
But that's us crazy Yanks here in Indiana. ;D ;)
I now use 40mm frontage as well for FOB2. A four base unit looks terrific and works well with 10mm buildings.
Aahh there is a very original ruleset for 10mm: Anticamente.
Something original y different
Quote from: Hertsblue on 22 February 2015, 10:02:32 PM
I would have thought there were very few rulesets which can't be adapted for 10mm figures. After all, it's largely base-sizes and shapes that determine how a given set works. In the days when rule mechanisms were based on rigid figures-scales it might have been a problem, but now rule writers go to great lengths to make their rules scale-neutral.
I think the relation between movement speed and firing ranges is important as well. After all, it matters whether it takes you 1, 2 or 5 turns to get to grips with those darn guns. Tomorrows War for example has a what-you-can-see-you-can-hit approach that makes it virtually scale free.
Usually if you scale down the unit dimensions you also scale down the move distances and ranges, thus preserving the relevant ratios. The easiest way is by moving from inches to centimetres.