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Wider Wargaming => Genre/Period Discussion => Firelocks to Maxims (1680 - 1900) => Topic started by: Subedai on 05 February 2015, 09:18:56 PM

Title: FPW Chasseur a cheval uniform info needed.
Post by: Subedai on 05 February 2015, 09:18:56 PM
Now bear in mind that I've not long started painting chaps for this period so I haven't had a chance to get any Ospreys or any other hardcopy books yet so I've trawled the forum and collated together all relevant bits and snippets of info on both sides of the conflict but I'm now stuck.
Uniform details are normally not too difficult to find on Googley but the line chasseurs a cheval have got me completely flummoxed.

http://antan.unblog.fr/tag/uniformes/page/4/ website has pictures of them in blue jackets but I have seen them painted in green. Is this a regimental thing, a re-issue thing or did they all wear the same colour and if so, which one was it.

I know it's a pretty basic question but all can find is conflicting info.
Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: FPW Chasseur a cheval uniform info needed.
Post by: mollinary on 05 February 2015, 09:30:18 PM
Hi Subedai,

I can't get a picture from your link, but recommend you have a look at the Leinhard and Humbert plates on the Grossergeneralstab site. 

Mollinary
Title: Re: FPW Chasseur a cheval uniform info needed.
Post by: mollinary on 05 February 2015, 09:34:07 PM
Go for green!

Mollinary
Title: Re: FPW Chasseur a cheval uniform info needed.
Post by: Subedai on 05 February 2015, 09:44:45 PM
Great stuff. Ta for that.
Title: Re: FPW Chasseur a cheval uniform info needed.
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 05 February 2015, 10:27:40 PM
Hello Subedai

The Osprey shows a green jacket with hussar frogging and a lambswool kolpack. Agrees with the Leinhard and Humbert plate:-

(http://www.grosser-generalstab.de/lh/lh2/lh2_66.jpg)

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan
Title: Re: FPW Chasseur a cheval uniform info needed.
Post by: Subedai on 05 February 2015, 10:37:02 PM
Cheers Grumps, That is exactly the same picture I looked at on Mollinary's recommendation. On the website mentioned there a lot of Chasseur pics, I just picked the last one and clicked on it.

Now I know where to look I will try not to bother you again.
Title: Re: FPW Chasseur a cheval uniform info needed.
Post by: Brynwar on 05 February 2015, 11:34:43 PM
Page 4 in the link provided is the Chasseurs d'Afrigue these are the colonial troops and wore light blue jackets, the metropolitan Chasseurs as mentioned wore green jackets as shown on page 5.
Title: Re: FPW Chasseur a cheval uniform info needed.
Post by: cameronian on 06 February 2015, 08:24:06 AM
Green jacket, busby without the plume, just a red wool pom pom with, I think, the number of the regiment on it but it IS 10mm ... though I suspect Javier might just have a go  ;D

Mollers, your collection must be quite impressive by now, how about a troop review and getting your excellent photographer to take some snaps?
Title: Re: FPW Chasseur a cheval uniform info needed.
Post by: Leman on 06 February 2015, 08:54:38 AM
Paint the guy on the horse in green and colpak (busby style headwear) and underneath is the officer, although the officers in the Pendraken range have been modelled with the shako in black waterproof cover. The line bugler's wore the same uniform as the men (there were slight differences in collar and cuff braid, but in 10mm....) On campaign the elaborate shabraque for all French cavalry was replaced with a plain grey saddle cloth, although some officers may have used plain dark blue. Plumes were not worn on campaign. Horse furniture was black leather. The Pendraken Chasseur figure can also be painted as a French Hussar in the old uniform. The new uniform, which is sported by the Pendraken hussar figure, was only issued to 1st and 8th Hussars at the start of the campaign in 1870.

If you buy the two Osprey books be aware that there are some mistakes in the first volume, which are corrected by an errata sheet in volume 2. The most glaring of these is the artilleryman. On campaign the French artillery wore the waistbelt UNDER the shell jacket. The dark blue uniform only had red piping to the kepi, red collar patches and a double red trouser stripe. Cuffs and shoulder straps were plain blue.

If you PM me I will send you a photocopy of the complete Airfix mag series on the uniforms of the FPW. Although published decades ago it is still one of the best sources of information and remarkably accurate.
Title: Re: FPW Chasseur a cheval uniform info needed.
Post by: Leman on 07 February 2015, 05:58:45 PM
Here's the Inn at Schirlenhof painting. The chasseurs a cheval attack Count Zeppelin and his Baden Dragoons on foot:

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g440/dourpuritan/Figurephotos2011/FPWphotos10mm/IMG_1413_zpsjp06w1yn.jpg)
Title: Re: FPW Chasseur a cheval uniform info needed.
Post by: Subedai on 07 February 2015, 06:51:37 PM
Thanks for everything, fellas. All been useful (although I am painting them in 6mm not 10's.

#Leman. That painting is brilliant, not only for the uniform detail but also for the buildings, I can see a number of them being made soon. Also PM sent.