With the New Year comes a new list, as we've updated our votes lists and put together a new Top 10 Requests!
Top 10 Ranges:
1. Indian Mutiny
2. 1920's/1930's Gangsters
3. Yom Kippur
4. Modern Infantry
5. War of 1812
6. Aztecs
7. 1860 Italian revamp
8. Boxer Rebellion
9. Fantasy Bears
10. Korean War - NEW ENTRY!
There are only a couple of changes on the Ranges lists, with the Picts now at Pendraken HQ ready for moulding. Moving into the Top 10 to replace them is the Korean War range, one which we are asked about regularly and something we'd like to get done sooner rather than later. Elsewhere in the list, we've combined the various Modern UK / US / Russian / etc requests into a blanket 'Modern Infantry' entry instead. Similarly, the various 1850's/1860's Italian requests have been combined into an '1860 Italian Revamp' entry. This range is the oldest of the late 19th ranges so it's due for some work at some stage.
And, Top 10 Items:
1. Werewolves
2. WWII Italian Artillery
3. 1870's Marching Band - NEW ENTRY!
4. AWI Wagons/Carts
5. SYW Ottoman's
6. WWII British tank crews / officers / drinking tea!
7. T-35
8. WWII Russian 37mm AA
9. Vietnam Radio Op's
10. WWII Personalities
There are some positive changes on this list, with the Commando's, the Dark Age civilians and the French High Command all done and ready to go here at Pendraken HQ. This brings in some new entries to take their place, including the reappearance of the Vietnam Radio Op's and the WWII Personalities, along with the highest new entry being the 1870's Marching Band!
If anyone would like to compare these new lists to the previous Top 10, it can be found here: http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,10212.0.html (http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,10212.0.html)
We hope everyone's happy to see continued progress on these requests, and we'll keep plugging away to get them sculpted and available asap!
:D
You have been busy counting up all those votes ;)
Interested to see which of these see the light of day.
I think FK has been putting multiple votes in to get the Aztecs to No 6
Wasn't the Russian 37mm a copy of the Bofors one- surely in 10mm thay are almost identical.
SYW Ottomans and 1870s band get my votes.
A few point of order Mr Chairman?
Please could you explain how "Fantasy Bears" are a range, and "werewolves" merely Items? Surely that shows an intolerable pro-ursine, anti-lupine bias? And please don't tell me that werewolves would be just a single figure. There are many kinds of werewolf (from the Chaney to the Cullen) and they have a number of different attributes which could be modelled by someone with the exquisite skills and many arms of our Techno.
Secondly, could you explain the voting system? I don't recall any calls for Indian Mutiny figures this year, yet the numerous and repeated requests for chariot armies (and Byzantines and Superheroes) have been blatantly ignored.
Actually, I've just realised there are Centurions on the horizon, so I don't really care. :P
Quote from: Leon on 19 January 2015, 03:17:34 AM
the highest new entry being the 1870's Marching Band!
Only for 1870?
The Russo-Japanese War is crying out for a Marching band - at the very least a Russian one - as there are a couple of instances of Russian bands marching into action especially during the Liaoyang campaign
Also a Mariachi band would be useful for the Mexican Revolution range
;)
Alan
Quote from: fsn on 19 January 2015, 08:08:28 AM
A few point of order Mr Chairman?
Please could you explain how "Fantasy Bears" are a range, and "werewolves" merely Items? Surely that shows an intolerable pro-ursine, anti-lupine bias? And please don't tell me that werewolves would be just a single figure. There are many kinds of werewolf (from the Chaney to the Cullen) and they have a number of different attributes which could be modelled by someone with the exquisite skills and many arms of our Techno.
Secondly, could you explain the voting system? I don't recall any calls for Indian Mutiny figures this year, yet the numerous and repeated requests for chariot armies (and Byzantines and Superheroes) have been blatantly ignored.
Actually, I've just realised there are Centurions on the horizon, so I don't really care. :P
While I do not want to be seen agreeing with Nobby, He is actually correct in his observations. :-[ :-[
I accept Nobbys' observation of the lack of requests for Indian Mutiny as he spends his entire life (apart from frequent visits to the bathroom with laminated vanguards) on this forum so he should know. :)
I would also like to know how the voting system works. Particuarly as I think that we need a method to withdraw votes, as we may no longer want something we requested as out interests change or we aquire said model from another source ( Heretical I know).
On the topic of bands, what about the dog-pulled bass drum used by the Austrians in 1866?
Quote from: Just a few Orcs on 19 January 2015, 07:48:03 AM
I think FK has been putting multiple votes in to get the Aztecs to No 6
They've been there forever. And it looks as if they'll be STAYING there forever. :(
Quote from: Just a few Orcs on 19 January 2015, 10:03:06 AM
...we requested as out interests change ....
They're known as
outesrests, aren't they?
NO AZTECS
Ever ever ever.....
IanS
Quote from: ianrs54 on 19 January 2015, 12:37:32 PM
NO AZTECS I am a malodourous GW-inspired pest.
Ever ever ever.....
IanS
What has Smeagol ever done to him?
Hmmm - seem to have a virus on here Leon, via FK's key board.
IanS :D
Quote from: fsn on 19 January 2015, 08:08:28 AM
Please could you explain how "Fantasy Bears" are a range, and "werewolves" merely Items? Surely that shows an intolerable pro-ursine, anti-lupine bias? And please don't tell me that werewolves would be just a single figure. There are many kinds of werewolf (from the Chaney to the Cullen) and they have a number of different attributes which could be modelled by someone with the exquisite skills and many arms of our Techno.
Werewolves would be a few sculpts, maybe 3 or 4 in a single pack, so those count as an Item. The Bears would be a larger project of 3 poses, each in 3 levels of armoured-ness, so they count as more of a Range. It's a close one, and I think the bears started life being on the Items list before we moved them over.
Quote from: fsn on 19 January 2015, 08:08:28 AM
Secondly, could you explain the voting system? I don't recall any calls for Indian Mutiny figures this year, yet the numerous and repeated requests for chariot armies (and Byzantines and Superheroes) have been blatantly ignored.
All the votes placed on the Forum, by email, over the phone or at the shows are collated on my lists here. The votes are cumulative, so the Indian Mutiny is still top as it's picked up the most votes over the past 4-5 years. The Byzantines have picked up some votes and were close to breaking into the Top 10, bt didn't quite make it.
Quote from: Just a few Orcs on 19 January 2015, 10:03:06 AM
I would also like to know how the voting system works. Particuarly as I think that we need a method to withdraw votes, as we may no longer want something we requested as out interests change or we aquire said model from another source ( Heretical I know).
Withdrawing votes would throw a slight spanner in the works as it would make a right mess of my sheets!
:D
Quote from: ianrs54 on 19 January 2015, 02:06:25 PM
Hmmm - seem to have a virus on here Leon, via FK's key board.
IanS :D
True. It's been Bowdlerised by someone whom we shall not name.
Quote from: Leon on 19 January 2015, 02:06:42 PM
Withdrawing votes would throw a slight spanner in the works as it would make a right mess of my sheets!
Don't mess your sheets, Leon!
My vote would go for a generic range of supply train figures: wagons, carts, hand carts, carriages and drivers, livestock and handlers, barrels, boxes and guys carrying them, pontoons and pontooniers, lumber and lumber jacks, medics, surgeons, stretcher bearers, cantinieres, and... dogs. And tables and chairs for outdoor map reading and...
By 'generic' I mean, of course, with a strong Napoleonic bias. ;D
In that case why not say Napolionic......
IanS
Cos it's spelt with an E, man.
The obvious solution to requests for bandsmen, supply train crews and Aztecs is to have multi-pose figures
Separate hats, heads, torsos, legs, arms, weapons, instruments, tools and baggage
If it can be done in 28mm then should be no problem in 10mm
Alan
I WANT ARMORED MONGOL HORSES !!!! :-w
Please :'(
PS: WW2 Polish as well 8) More Polish in general would be a good idea I think :D
Quote from: WeeWars on 19 January 2015, 02:55:13 PM
My vote would go for a generic range of supply train figures: wagons, carts, hand carts, carriages and drivers, livestock and handlers, barrels, boxes and guys carrying them, pontoons and pontooniers, lumber and lumber jacks, medics, surgeons, stretcher bearers, cantinieres, and... dogs. And tables and chairs for outdoor map reading and...
These would be good things - a bunch already exist in the ranges, but more would be good.
Quote from: Szymon on 19 January 2015, 07:04:39 PM
I WANT ARMORED MONGOL HORSES !!!! :-w
This too.
(Szymon - don't you have inside knowledge to facilitate this request!)
Quote from: fred 12df on 19 January 2015, 09:56:10 PM
This too.
(Szymon - don't you have inside knowledge to facilitate this request!)
Believe me, I am hassling Leon everyday about it....he always finds excuses; like he has to run a profitable business to feed his family and stuff.........I hope he will get his priorities in life on track again and understand how important 10mm heavily armored Mongolian horses are for all of mankind. :D
AND WITH SHEILDS
IanS
Quote from: WeeWars on 19 January 2015, 02:55:13 PM
Don't mess your sheets, Leon!
My vote would go for a generic range of supply train figures: wagons, carts, hand carts, carriages and drivers, livestock and handlers, barrels, boxes and guys carrying them, pontoons and pontooniers, lumber and lumber jacks, medics, surgeons, stretcher bearers, cantinieres, and... dogs. And tables and chairs for outdoor map reading and...
By 'generic' I mean, of course, with a strong Napoleonic bias. ;D
I second that
What's all this nonsense about marching bands and camp followers? Can they storm Badajoz? No! Can they force the Suez Canal? No! Can they hold Masada? No! Let's focus on the teeth arms and get them sorted before we start monkeying about with irrelevancies. Even the Aztecs deserve priority over baggage wagons. >:(
Irritated of Cheshunt.
Even? Explain to me this thing, pliss.
Quote from: Hertsblue on 20 January 2015, 10:35:25 AM
What's all this nonsense about marching bands and camp followers? Can they storm Badajoz? No! Can they force the Suez Canal? No! Can they hold Masada? No! Let's focus on the teeth arms and get them sorted before we start monkeying about with irrelevancies. Even the Aztecs deserve priority over baggage wagons. >:(
I'll second that, even though I like diorama bases. Guns before butter :-)
Quote from: FierceKitty on 20 January 2015, 10:42:29 AM
Even? Explain to me this thing, pliss.
I class them as "teeth arms". They
do have teeth, do they not? :-\
Mmmm. Including some extracted from enemies and worn as battlefield accessories.
As usual, I shall have to be the voice of reason in this. I seem to fall between the two camps anyway.
I would humbly suggest that your baggage train (camp followers etc) have their uses. One of my favourite scenarios is to have a unit guard a backwater bridge and direct traffic over it. At some point the enemy is going to intervene and there are literally hours of fun as the nervous guards wonder if the oncoming vehicle is a friendly Panther or an accursed Ami M10. This scenario works well if the bridge gets clogged with supply waggons or ambulances or some such. They also make excellent objectives/distractions for marauding Hunnic cavalry or as a resupply for the beleaguered castle. Was it Hougamont that was saved by some daft sod trundling an ammo waggon through half the French army?
So, I can see the point of baggage waggons, and ditto camp followers & pontoons. By extension, I can also see the point of other encampment accessories, though they are not to my taste. I do draw the line at a marching band. Smacks of "toy soldiers" to me.
I think there are enough rulesets out there that have baggage camps etc as part of the army lists so something to make them more fun and nice to look at rather than the usual tent just plonked down would be nice
I thought a war GAME was all about toy soldiers. Certainly don't want the real thing clumping through my house. If I'd wanted the real thing I'd have joined the army, but as the old ditty says - I don't want a bayonet up my a*******, I don't want my b******** shot away. give me toy soldiers any day of the week.
Where in Cheshunt Hertsblue?
Spent most of last term covering a class up at Little Springs!
Quote from: fsn on 19 January 2015, 08:08:28 AM
A few point of order Mr Chairman?
Please could you explain how "Fantasy Bears" are a range, and "werewolves" merely Items? Surely that shows an intolerable pro-ursine, anti-lupine bias? And please don't tell me that werewolves would be just a single figure. There are many kinds of werewolf (from the Chaney to the Cullen) and they have a number of different attributes which could be modelled by someone with the exquisite skills and many arms of our Techno.
Seconded. Plus you could have werewolves in chainmail with shields and a mixture of swords and spears, which could double as gnolls.
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Actually, I've just realised there are Centurions on the horizon, so I don't really care. :P
Traitor! enjoy your thirty pieces of motorised armour ;)
Gnolls are a great idea!
In fact, loking back to the D&D aesthetic for inspiration on a lot of ranges would be a good idea.
Wot dis chainmail?
Not again! ;D
Just ignore the wimp - let keep mewing outside the door.
IanS ;)
NO AZTECS
Mark of the anorak - shout nonsense until people get tired of being the still small voice of reason. If anyone disagrees when you claim a victory, resume shouting.
Quote from: FierceKitty on 21 January 2015, 01:38:50 AM
Wot dis chainmail?
Chainmail is a medieval miniature wargame created by Gary Gygax and Jeff Perren.
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/a1/Chainmail-1st-thumb.jpg)
Would that the term might be restricted to its legitimate lexical limits, then. :)
Chainmail ... as opposed to plate mail, scale mail, splint mail, banded mail, etc. Didn't they teach you D&D at school FK? You were robbed of an education!
Deplorably close to the truth. Education was aimed rather at trying to turn me into a good little white suprematist.
Mein Gott!
Cheers Bob
Isn't chainmail one of those horrible letters cousins sent you when you were 8 and you had to forward it on to 10 others ir have like a gazillion years bad luck?
Maybe I should have forwarded mine on? ;D
Quote from: mad lemmey on 20 January 2015, 08:08:18 PM
Where in Cheshunt Hertsblue?
Spent most of last term covering a class up at Little Springs!
Are you sure that isn't Chesham, Will? Next county west of Herts?
I meant Chesham... Bois too!
That's 25 miles west of here as the crow flies. (Do crows actually fly in straight lines?)
This one does.