Looking for a bit of advice here, what are the GNW range like, I am thinking of starting a new project and this one appeals to me. I have looked at the army packs and I think this is the way to go to get it up and running, all I need is a bit of advice on the actual figures, what they are like, is the range big enough to do a decent project etc. Look forward to your help folks. :)
Jambo,
The GNW sculpts are old-style and feature the well-known "can-can" horses. That said, there are enough types to field all the Swedish and Russian troops. (Not sure about the other nations, but I would think they'd be all right). Oh, and Russian horse grenadiers, while not mentioned in the catalogue yet, ar available. You can, of course, use items from the Marlburian range too.
(http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd448/Hertsblue/Marlburian/Great%20Northern%20war/DSCN1361.jpg)
Swedish cavalry
(http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd448/Hertsblue/Marlburian/Great%20Northern%20war/DSCN1360.jpg)
Swedish infantry and artillery (the latter from the Marlburian range)
(http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd448/Hertsblue/Marlburian/Great%20Northern%20war/DSCN1354.jpg)
Russian Dragoons (the generals are from another company).
(http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd448/Hertsblue/Marlburian/Great%20Northern%20war/DSCN1351.jpg)
Russian infantry in felt hat.
(http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd448/Hertsblue/Marlburian/Great%20Northern%20war/DSCN1349.jpg)
Russian infantry brigade.
Hope this helps.
Thank you very much, that is the info I required, figures look good and paint up nicely. Well this is another project to start!!
Nice work Hertsblue. 8)
Great stuff, Ray !.
Cheers - Phil
Looking very good there Herts. TBH I've never really objected to the can-can horses, it's that bloke running with the massive outstretched leg behind that gets my vote as worst figure in the Pendraken ranges - as he turns up in all sorts of guises.
I am slowly building all the armies of the war - I have Swedes, Russians, Saxons, Ottomans and Poles. I have a combined 'the rest' army- Danes, Prussians, etc - which I will build up over time.
I started building my armies many years ago before a lot of the current ranges were available so I did things differently. But if I was starting now I would do as has already been suggested - i.e. use figures from other ranges.
The GNW range is good but basically with a limited number of poses and also quite old. The musketeers are all in the standing shooting pose for example. The other ranges are newer and with a lot more choice. You will need some of the GNW range but for a lot you can use other figures.
From the GNW range you will need the guys in felt hats and the pikes. I should say here that all of this is AFAIK as I don't know all the figures in the ranges. So AFAIK there are no suitable substitutes for these.
But for the rest of the Swedes you could use many of the SYW range. The SYW armies were basically in Swedish style uniforms from the GNW. So in theory most of the tricorn wearing infantry and dragoon types from these ranges will be OK for GNW Swedes. In the case of the infantry mainly with GNW pikes added in.
For the Russians (and indeed many of the other nations) you can use most of the Marlburian range figures and indeed even some SYW - the French SYW infantry without turnbacks for example. For Russians you will still need some of the GNW range but for the Danes, Saxons, etc, then these are all covered by the Marlburian range.
The Ottomans, Poles, Cossacks, etc - i.e. 'Eastern' types - are mainly covered by the Renaissance range with some bits elsewhere. Some of these might need a little work but basically can be done with little effort.
So I think if I was starting again and assuming you are looking to do Swedes & Russian I would get a few packs of the 'special' GNW types - i.e. infantry/cavalry in felt hats and pikes. But then get the rest from the Marlburian (for the Russians) or SYW (for the Swedes) ranges.
Finally if you need help/advice then this is a nice forum and there are plenty here who can help.
Many thanks for that info. Plenty to take in there and some cracking advice. This is indeed one of the best forums about as the advice is always great,
Another satisfied customer - we go from strength to strength, and after decades the forum has taught me how to pronounce voltigeur correctly.
Very nice indeed
Take care
Andy
Quote from: Dour Puritan on 17 January 2015, 11:25:00 AM
Looking very good there Herts. TBH I've never really objected to the can-can horses, it's that bloke running with the massive outstretched leg behind that gets my vote as worst figure in the Pendraken ranges - as he turns up in all sorts of guises.
Wot 'e sed.
Quote from: Dour Puritan on 17 January 2015, 11:25:00 AM
Looking very good there Herts. TBH I've never really objected to the can-can horses, it's that bloke running with the massive outstretched leg behind that gets my vote as worst figure in the Pendraken ranges - as he turns up in all sorts of guises.
Yes, he's an old friend (?) who must be the universal soldier. :D
Well after all the really good advice that has been given to me on here I am just about ready to order my first army pack. And it will be Prussian musketeers!! After a bit of planning i have decided to not go down the GNW route but make a start on SYW!! Fickle old me! :)
Good choice. Don't forget to pack those bases.
Yes, SYW was always my first love. :-bd
SYW can always be relied on for a first-rate battle. And it's the most influential war in history.
How so?
Probably to do with the emergence of the 12 colonies as the strongest power in North America and the defeat of the French competition in India.
Ok, that makes sense. I was thinking more of Europe.
In Europe it seems the main result for the future was the Prussians/Germans hanging on to Silesia until 1918/1945.
Your commentary on my comment is correct, but I'd add that a Germany dominated by Prussia, not by Austria, was another major outcome. And a couple of very significant spin-offs might be said to be the fact that Russia was clearly eating at the grown-ups' table now, and the Polish partitions.
Quote from: FierceKitty on 24 January 2015, 09:00:56 AM
Your commentary on my comment is correct, but I'd add that a Germany dominated by Prussia, not by Austria, was another major outcome.
Hardly FK. That would have to wait for 1866.
Thats it done, Prussian starter army ordered, first of many purchases I fear :)
Did you go for musketeers or fusiliers?
QuoteAnd it's the most influential war in history
SO true, yet never mentioned in any school curriculum
Sorry to disappoint, but the children in my school got the whole 'this could be called the first world war' treatment when we did Clive of India and Wolfe in Canada, and that these were sideshows to the real business going on in Europe. Most entertaining when there were Polish and Czech pupils in the class.
I just remember it never coming up at school (strange considering Clive is a local lad) and none of my kids have covered it at school either.
My history teachers were obsessed with the Nazi's and Corn laws
Should've gone to St.Wilfrid's (Dark Ages got a good look in as well).
Urgh! The Corn Laws, did one lesson on them during two years of A levels and they still turned up!
Wrote a really good answer for that one too!
Funny, we got at least a term on the Corn Laws as I recall. Mind you, we were probably closer in time to them than some of you.
I did Europe 1816-1938 and Scotland to the Act of Union for "Higher" History and was awarded the school History Prize so my History teacher was understandably alarmed when I announced I answered questions on the boundaries of the Roman Empire, The Reforms of Frederick the Great, the land reforms of the Gracchi and the political, social and military legacy of Napoleon. Still got an "A" though.
And THAT is why libraries are important!
Brilliant, Ithoriel (I only got a Higher "B" - and a miserable "D" in Sixth Year Studies). Well done (days of glory,eh?).
As I recall, we were taught Restoration, WSS, SYW and AWI (probably a major reason why Horse & Musket is my favourite era?).
Anyway, whilst GNW is attractive, SYW is the way to go (IMHO) - more battlefield encounters and greater availability of information on uniforms and flags (and although Pendraken do ranges for both, SYW is the more extensive of the two). As Leman says, pack 'em tight!
Davy
I bitterly resent the way you people had a chance to do real history at school! Not fair.
Quote from: Leman on 24 January 2015, 07:09:23 PM
Did you go for musketeers or fusiliers?
Hi Leman, I went for the Musketeers, will be buying the fusiliers later.
Quote from: Westmarcher on 24 January 2015, 11:48:59 PM
Brilliant, Ithoriel (I only got a Higher "B" - and a miserable "D" in Sixth Year Studies). Well done (days of glory,eh?).
As I recall, we were taught Restoration, WSS, SYW and AWI (probably a major reason why Horse & Musket is my favourite era?).
Anyway, whilst GNW is attractive, SYW is the way to go (IMHO) - more battlefield encounters and greater availability of information on uniforms and flags (and although Pendraken do ranges for both, SYW is the more extensive of the two). As Leman says, pack 'em tight!
Davy
Whoa, hold on there. the GNW has much to recommend it (more colourful uniforms, for one). I would never dismiss it out of hand. First cousin to the WSS, some of its proponents fought in both wars.
Good choice. I'd already started my Prussian army by taking advantage of the Old Glory 6 for 5 deal, and all my infantry were musketeers. I then went for the Pendraken fusilier pack to enlarge my force and was pleased at how compatible the two ranges were, compared to my experiences of trying to mix Magister Militum with Pendraken.
Damn- forgot to tape the Musketeers this week, iplayer it is...
I think there was some football match on instead. >:(
Quote from: Ithoriel on 24 January 2015, 09:19:39 PM
I did Europe 1816-1938 and Scotland to the Act of Union for "Higher" History and was awarded the school History Prize so my History teacher was understandably alarmed when I announced I answered questions on the boundaries of the Roman Empire, The Reforms of Frederick the Great, the land reforms of the Gracchi and the political, social and military legacy of Napoleon. Still got an "A" though.
And THAT is why libraries are important!
Well said that librarian!
In my final year at school, I was the only one who sat 6th Year Studies History but I don't remember any prize being handed out that year. Not even for perseverance.
Quote from: mad lemmey on 25 January 2015, 10:28:49 AM
Damn- forgot to tape the Musketeers this week, iplayer it is...
Tape? If you're still taping stuff, there's a few boxes of video tapes here that could go to a new home.
Musketeers is repeated during the week on BBC3.
Tape, as in 'record on a v-box for later viewing' ;)
My daughter played a VHS tape for my 6 year old grand daughter. Grand daughter couldn't get the concept of "rewind" being required before replay.
How to make a 21 year old feel very, very old.
Not to mention grandad. :D
Gawd! I was trying to explain the concept of telly only broadcasting in certain hours.
Looked at me like I was an alien.
Well, more so than normal.
When I try to explain to my little woman that I didn't even see a telly set until I was 14 or so....
Indeed. There was no TV in South Africa when I was there in the early seventies. Weird! I had to take up wargaming instead.
LEMMY - the FA Cup replaced The Musketeers this week, so you have not missed them. Does your record mechanism have a record whole series function? Best way to avoid missing episodes.
Quote from: Leman on 25 January 2015, 12:36:40 PM
Does your record mechanism have a record whole series function? Best way to avoid missing episodes.
My old VCR certainly didn't. :P
Had a VCR till last year, but only to convert tape to DVD....gave it away.
IanS
That would explain why the series record function didn't work Friday then! I just thought it was full of the youngest's Pepper Pig episodes!
Only remembered because some mentioned musketeers earlier on the thread!! :-[
Got my Prussian Musketeer army pack yesterday and have spent a part of this morning sorting it out. First thing was to get rid of flash on the figures and this was a dawdle! bar a bit of spur on the bottom of some of the bases there was next to nothing to do!! The figures themselves are lovely little chaps and should have the makings of a fine army for me and my project. Next thing is to get them primed and ready to paint them up, then the next thing will be BUY MORE!!!! ;D
So which of the C18th scraps are you going for?
Build up my Prussian army for SYW and then onto the Austrians, The GNW will be another project for another time!! So many projects so little time!! ;D
Quote from: jambo1 on 08 February 2015, 07:09:40 PM
... So many projects so little time!! ;D
That sounds familiar for some reason :-\
The order of battle for Rossbach is an interesting one to follow. Only about 30 Prussian battalions in all and you can oppose them with French, Austrians and Imperials.
As far as I can tell Rossbach is the only major historical scrap between French and Prussians in the SYW. As Prussian opponents it makes more sense to use Austrians or Russians.
It was Austrians I was thinking of going with, maybe Russians but not too sure. Eventually I will probably do Brits, Hanoverians and French,but that is down the road a way yet.
You could consider doing the War of Austrian Succession. The Prussians are fighting the Austrians with French and Bavarian (and other minor German) allies. They also fight with and against the Saxons at different times.
Never thought about the War of Austrian Succession, nice tip there, i will do a bit of investigating on that.