Got the bit between my teeth and completed all the French troops for the Froeschwiller scenario:
1. A view of the entire army
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g440/dourpuritan/BBB%206mm%20armies/IMG_1387_zps14dc8f75.jpg)
2. MacMahon ponders a problem while aides wait to carry his orders (Irregular)
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g440/dourpuritan/BBB%206mm%20armies/IMG_1392_zpsbcb69b79.jpg)
3. One of the guns and limber (Heroics and Ros)
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g440/dourpuritan/BBB%206mm%20armies/IMG_1393_zpsa80dbb86.jpg)
4. Showing the use of Irregular WWI zouaves as a Turco skirmish base
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g440/dourpuritan/BBB%206mm%20armies/IMG_1390_zpsf362f18f.jpg)
5. Close up of Irregular line infantry
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g440/dourpuritan/BBB%206mm%20armies/IMG_1394_zpsb18fdf66.jpg)
6. The Cuirassiers reserve (Irregular)
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g440/dourpuritan/BBB%206mm%20armies/IMG_1391_zpsd4b5a6b5.jpg)
7. Along the line - a mix of H&R and Irregular
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g440/dourpuritan/BBB%206mm%20armies/IMG_1395_zpsf85f8aca.jpg)
Very nice DP. (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)
Make my 10mm look like I've painted them with a 2" brush!
Very nice...Are they all Irregular?
Like the look of those figures, DP. Look forward to seeing all those Prussians, Bavarians, Wurttembergers, etc!
Mollinary
A very impressive army.
Wurttemburgers are next; in my opinion Irregular's Wurttemburg infantry are some of his best figures with a variety of different bases. The current French army is approximately 50:50 Irregular and H&R, although more Irregular figures are to be added. The Prussians are also a mix and are very near completion. Wurttemburgers are all Irregular and the Bavarians will be a mixture of Irregular and Baccus. Almost all the figures shown so far were painted about 20 years ago.
:-bd =D> :-bd =D> :-bd
Very nice basing as well as well painted figures :)
Love 'em :-bd
Cheers - Phil
Formidable!
Or as the French say:
Formidable!
Chris
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Excellent painting and basing,
kev
Look good. Are BBB suitable for ACW battles ?
IanS
Cor, really cracking stuff DP!
Hi Ian,
Disclaimer first: I'm BBB's author.
Yes, BBB works great for ACW. You can fight all 3 days of Gettysburg in an evening (under 3 and a half hours with players who know the rules). You will find my Gettysburg scenario, and one for Shiloh, in the Yahoo group files and also on Flickr:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/127771552@N03/
However, although other 'official' ACW scenarios will no doubt be forthcoming in due course, they will take a while. So apart from those two you will have to write your own scenarios, for probably the next year or two. But there is plenty of info out there, and plenty of other folks' scenarios to adapt, so maybe that's not too big an obstacle?
Chris
What a great looking bunch of little chaps on tasty looking bases. I really like the Irregular 6mm ranges and this post has reminded me that in my 6mm mountain there is one of the FPW Battlepacks bought about 15 years ago. Must add it to the list of things to paint.
Cheers Subedai. Toxicpixie, there are a huge number of ACW scenarios available through Altar of Freedom. In those rules a single 60x30 base represents a brigade, so I imagine they would work for BBB if a couple of brigades were combined to form a BBB unit. Most of the AOF scenarios are for 6'x4' tables or smaller. A good way to adapt would be to compare the BBB Shiloh scenario with AOF"s.
DP,
You seem a big fan of BBB - have you played many games? If so what do you see as their particular strengths?
Mollinary
Only just got started with this set. I remember how thrilled I was when 1870 first came out, and then finding how difficult it was to put on a scenario other than Wissembourg because the battlefields were so huge, even with using 6mm figures. What attracted me to BBB was the opportunity to at last use armies I had already started on a 6'x4' table for most of the scenarios. Owing to the scale at which the games are played the armies are relatively cost effective. The scenario maps are also simplified compared to the Weigle maps. It is a good half way house between the Weigle rules style and the much simpler Neil Thomas approach. The mechanisms are also familiar, e.g movement is similar to F&F whereas missile fire is similar to Johnny Reb 3, with column shifts reflecting the factors. Army effectiveness is represented partly by the availability of senior officers. In most of the FPW scenarios the Prussians have far more senior commander figures to influence the troops than the French do.
Quote from: Chris Pringle on 06 January 2015, 12:26:03 PM
Hi Ian,
Disclaimer first: I'm BBB's author.
Yes, BBB works great for ACW. You can fight all 3 days of Gettysburg in an evening (under 3 and a half hours with players who know the rules). You will find my Gettysburg scenario, and one for Shiloh, in the Yahoo group files and also on Flickr:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/127771552@N03/
However, although other 'official' ACW scenarios will no doubt be forthcoming in due course, they will take a while. So apart from those two you will have to write your own scenarios, for probably the next year or two. But there is plenty of info out there, and plenty of other folks' scenarios to adapt, so maybe that's not too big an obstacle?
Chris
Thanks Chris. We are doing the armies for Gettysburg in 6mmand were planning on using BP, but there may be a few practical problems. And dont worry about Authors Ego.
IanS
Hi Ian,
Oh, the ego is in rude health, thanks. Just wanted to make sure that when I say "BBB works great" you realize there may be some personal bias involved.
In a spirit of impartial objectivity, then, let me mention that my American buddies are currently enthusing about Altar of Freedom (which was addressed in a thread on this forum a year ago). I have bought it, it does look very good, and I am looking forward to trying it myself soon, probably the weekend after next.
Whichever rules you settle on, Gettysburg is a really interesting battle, full of possibilities. Best of luck with your project!
Chris
Just checked ou Shiloh as done by AOF and BBB. The AOF scenario is 4'x4' and has 20 Union infantry units; the BBB scenario is 4'x2.5' and has 11 Union infantry units. However, each AOF unit is a single 60x30mm base whereas the BBB units are made up of a number of bases (I use 30x30mm bases - the rules recommend between 1" square and 11/2 inches square).
The first of the Prussians. Approximately 50:50 painted 15-20 years ago and last two weeks. Anyone able to tell which are which?
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g440/dourpuritan/BBB%206mm%20armies/IMG_1398_zps5b0f614a.jpg)
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g440/dourpuritan/BBB%206mm%20armies/IMG_1397_zps447096c5.jpg)
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g440/dourpuritan/BBB%206mm%20armies/IMG_1396_zpsbefd321b.jpg)
All these figures are Irregular 6mm. Now take a look at Javier's 10mm rendition of the Battle of Beaumont. I am dying of envy here. Marvellous stuff.
Quote from: Dour Puritan on 12 January 2015, 04:02:24 PM
The first of the Prussians. Approximately 50:50 painted 15-20 years ago and last two weeks. Anyone able to tell which are which?
I'll take a stab that the ones on the right of the photo are the newer ones. :-\ :-\ :-\
Cheers - Phil
Quote from: Dour Puritan on 12 January 2015, 04:02:24 PM
The first of the Prussians. Approximately 50:50 painted 15-20 years ago and last two weeks. Anyone able to tell which are which?
Photo 1 - old stuff
Photo 2 - new stuff
Photo 3 - a tad Impressionist ..... which, coincidentally, is a form of art that
started to gain prominence in the 1870's .... (or is that just my old eyes?) :-B
[only joking DP - you know I like your stuff :) -
stuff? wait! that sounded dodgy ... er ...
artwork .... #:-S]
All v nice DP! 8)
There's something endearingly cheeky about 6mm figures, particularly en masse. I'm guessing each infantry base is a battalion, which would give you an army corps per side?
Depending on the scenario the numbers depicted by a base vary from 500 to 1500, but is usually about 1000. Units vary between 3 and 5 bases representing brigades or divisions. BBB are not designed for small engagements, so battles like Spicheren and Nuits are more suited to my 10mm figures.
Hi Hertsblue,
Don't those Irregular figures look great? For the BBB Gravelotte or Sedan scenarios, at 1,500-2,000 men per base, you are looking at 80-100 bases a side giving you a total of 10 or 11 corps on the table for a 3 to 3.5-hour game.
Chris
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Chris, I'm sorely tempted to dig out my 5mm FPW troops that haven't seen the light of day for over twenty years. :)
Well Herts, that was my starting point, although they were still being used up to about 8 years ago.
Ref BBB for the ACW, I am a bit surprised that it is worth it, given that most of the battles seem to fall below the author's threshold for consideration as a scenario. To be specific, Gitschin in the APW with two corps (say 60,000) on one side and two divisions (say 25,000), total 85,000, does not make the cut. Based on the need for 90,000 to be involved, the scenario book will be a bit thin. Or does the ACW get special pleading?
Currently there are two free scenarios on the Yahoo site, i.e. Shiloh and Gettysburg. Chris Pringle is producing some small scenarios for people to try out the rule mechanisms before embarking on a major battle. So far Langensalza is available on the Yahoo site and Spicheren is in preparation. He is also rethinking Gitschin and may be putting that out as well. The ACW as a separate scenario book seems a lot less likely, and as has been noted on a number of forums it would take relatively little effort to translate the larger Alter of Freedom scenarios into BBB. There is no way battles like those in the Valley campaign would work with BBB where some of Jacksons battles would only feature three or four bases of infantry with the cavalry and artillery factored in.
(Don't know if this should be a separate thread, if so just move it.)
I told you I had a couple of battlepacks for FPW. Dug them out and decided they can jump the queue seeing as Ma Subs is off to stay with one of the smalls for a week I hope to get them painted.
I've found a set of rules (in my collection of farsends of sets) called Bazaine! written in 1989 by a certain Mr Bernard Ganley who if memory serves frequents this forum. Anyone used these before and what did they think? They seem to be specifically designed for 6mm.
:D 8)
I've had them since 1989 and they are very interesting. they are in various parts: the rules themselves, background and campaign information and formations and playsheets. Never got round to playing them as at the time I was playing Warfare in the Industrial with my 10mm Wargames South figures (now sadly sold on). On quck inspection I could use them as they operate on 30mm frontage, which is the basing I use, but each base represents a company, so small scale actions then.
Yes, I noticed the 1 base to 1 company so I may have to get some more stuff. I'll have a word with that nice Mr. Kay.
Now starting to make some progress with the Brigade Miniatures 3mm buildings for use with 6mm in BBB.
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g440/dourpuritan/BBB%206mm%20armies/IMG_1465_zpscdfmoedv.jpg)
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g440/dourpuritan/BBB%206mm%20armies/IMG_1464_zpsjlpsqo40.jpg)
Interesting comparison with the figures and the half scale buildings.
Quote from: Westmarcher on 07 March 2015, 02:41:21 PM
Interesting comparison with the figures and the half scale buildings.
I assume you're just using them to represent the positions of buildings? I think you referred to this in another thread.
Yes, they will sit on templates representing either village areas or town areas. In the rules it talks about templates being squares of the same size. However, all the scenario maps show villages as relatively small circles so I have opted for circular bases for the village template and oblong bases for the town template, both smaller than the rules recommendation. In the Borny scenario, for example, there are over 30 villages on a 6'x4' table. I will post more pictures when the templates are ready. I have downloaded some photos of grass and cobbles from the internet to cut up and glue to the templates. I am also intending to glue on some roads and tracks.
I'm all for this; otherwise it just creates more "dead space!"
Sounds a very good plan ;)
:-bd really nice painting.
Top idea with the buildings!
Nice painting, Leman, but the buildings seem awfully wee beside the figures. More so than 10mils alongside 6mm buildings.
I suppose at the scale of 1 base equals a brigade or similar you need smaller buildings otherwise the ground scale gets all screwed up. However, on the same sized table I would prefer a smaller action with in scale buildings purely for the visual aspect, but that's just me.
Quote from: Subedai on 10 March 2015, 02:56:17 PM
I suppose at the scale of 1 base equals a brigade or similar you need smaller buildings otherwise the ground scale gets all screwed up. However, on the same sized table I would prefer a smaller action with in scale buildings purely for the visual aspect, but that's just me.
Agree entirely but how else could you represent a grand battle?
I'm playing around with building sizes at the mo and have hit a similar problem :-\
Quote from: getagrip on 10 March 2015, 04:00:50 PM
Agree entirely but how else could you represent a grand battle?
I'm playing around with building sizes at the mo and have hit a similar problem :-\
This is why I tend to stick to smaller actions. With limited table space I like everything to look as in scale as it can be. It also means that I don't end with mega armies in a single period and can diversify as much as I like.
Borney- a lot of the villages were hamlets, farmsteads or small holdings, especially on the further outskirts of Metz, a lot of cottage industry and piecework (like the infamous Weavers' Cottage outside Sedan).
Quote from: Subedai on 10 March 2015, 04:14:19 PM
This is why I tend to stick to smaller actions. With limited table space I like everything to look as in scale as it can be. It also means that I don't end with mega armies in a single period and can diversify as much as I like.
Fair comment ;)
Quote from: mad lemmey on 10 March 2015, 05:18:31 PM
Borney- a lot of the villages were hamlets, farmsteads or small holdings, especially on the further outskirts of Metz, a lot of cottage industry and piecework (like the infamous Weavers' Cottage outside Metz).
Which infamous Weaver's Cottage outside Metz? :-\ :-\
Mollinary
The one Disney moved from Sedan?
Dagnabbit, sorry Mollinary, been a long day. :'(
Hi Sub,
I absolutely agree the aesthetic is important, but I think you can achieve a grand battle effect without needing a grand table to put it on. I just tend to use a single building on a patch of fields to represent a village, and a couple of buildings or one larger one on a cobblestone template to represent a town. It looks OK to me.
For example, here's a pic of a battle with 10mm figs and 6mm buildings (the St Quentin Franco-Prussian game we put on at Overlord earlier this month):
http://bloodybigbattles.blogspot.no/2015/03/st-quentin-fpw-bbb-participation-game.html
And you can find loads of pics of battles which (I think) look like battles, using 6mm figures with 6mm or smaller buildings in my Flickr photostream - the 1/600 scale forts from Peter Pig look great with 6mm.
Chris
Bloody Big BATTLES!
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I suppose I am a very lucky bunny having built up two FPW and APW collections over the years, in 10mm and 6mm. The tiny buildings are for massive actions with the 6mm figures, e.g. Gravelotte-St.Privat. I also have a collection of 6mm buildings for medium-sized actions, e.g. Coulmiers, and 10mm buildings for parts of actions, e.g. the German attack on Villers-Brettoneux during the battle of Amiens. Got to the age now where I can have cake and eat it.
Buildings made of cake! Now there's an idea! :D
Quote from: Chris Pringle on 10 March 2015, 05:47:20 PM
Hi Sub,
I absolutely agree the aesthetic is important, but I think you can achieve a grand battle effect without needing a grand table to put it on. I just tend to use a single building on a patch of fields to represent a village, and a couple of buildings or one larger one on a cobblestone template to represent a town. It looks OK to me.
For example, here's a pic of a battle with 10mm figs and 6mm buildings (the St Quentin Franco-Prussian game we put on at Overlord earlier this month):
http://bloodybigbattles.blogspot.no/2015/03/st-quentin-fpw-bbb-participation-game.html
And you can find loads of pics of battles which (I think) look like battles, using 6mm figures with 6mm or smaller buildings in my Flickr photostream - the 1/600 scale forts from Peter Pig look great with 6mm.
Chris
Bloody Big BATTLES!
https://uk.groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/BBB_wargames/info
Colour me old fashioned but I still like my units to have a passing resemblance to their historical counterparts and can't in all honesty get my head around playing out a major battle with those kind of numbers involved on a 6 x 4. Yes I only use 3 blocks for a French battalion and 4 for a Prussian but to me, the size is close enough. From my point of view, the aesthetic is all important. Plus the fact, as most of my games are solo, I have the option of doing a bit of a battle at a time. I mean, this is what I am talking about:
http://blog.belisarius.org.uk/fpw-game-2015/nggallery/page/1/thumbnails
#Leman. Sent you a PM earlier with the above link included. Don't know if you'd seen this before.
#mollinary. You might enjoy looking at that as well.
Quote from: mad lemmey on 10 March 2015, 06:01:52 PM
Buildings made of cake! Now there's an idea! :D
Gingerbread houses :D
My ex made a beautiful turreted pink castle cake for my daughter's third birthday back in the 80s.
Quote from: mad lemmey on 10 March 2015, 05:33:17 PM
The one Disney moved from Sedan?
Dagnabbit, sorry Mollinary, been a long day. :'(
Oh, that one. Phew, I thought I was having a senior moment! :D
Mollinary
Nothing wrong with old fashioned, Subs. We all like what we like. And I understand what you mean - I too have played games where the number of figures on table jarred a bit with what they were supposed to represent.
Having said that, I would encourage you to take a look at my Flickr album "2014-08-11 Paris sortie" in which 100,000 or so French are trying to break through a thin German cordon. I really think the first couple of pics in the album look like a mass battle. And for me (though obviously I would say this, wouldn't I) BBB manages to reconcile a grand-battle approach with a tactical feel, without turning into an abstract boardgame where the figures might as well be cardboard counters. And I'm comfortable with the aesthetic.
Mais chacun a son gout.
Chris
Quote from: Subedai on 10 March 2015, 06:02:51 PM
Colour me old fashioned but I still like my units to have a passing resemblance to their historical counterparts and can't in all honesty get my head around playing out a major battle with those kind of numbers involved on a 6 x 4. Yes I only use 3 blocks for a French battalion and 4 for a Prussian but to me, the size is close enough. From my point of view, the aesthetic is all important. Plus the fact, as most of my games are solo, I have the option of doing a bit of a battle at a time. I mean, this is what I am talking about:
http://blog.belisarius.org.uk/fpw-game-2015/nggallery/page/1/thumbnails
#Leman. Sent you a PM earlier with the above link included. Don't know if you'd seen this before.
#mollinary. You might enjoy looking at that as well.
Hi Subs,
Nearly missed this with all of it beingi n the quotes box and all. Thanks for the link. Lovely game, looks great and seems fun. TTLGB is a great set of rules, but that square dynamic does take a bit of getting used to!
Mollinary
What's going on with these quote boxes ? :-\
How strange.
Cheers - Phil
Looks like someone typed into the "quotes" handles. Either deliberate, or VERY SILLY.
IanS :'( :'( :-*
I'm sure I only previewed the post and then posted it as normal. it could be me but others have said that the preview function was playing up. Could that have something to do with it?
Quote from: Subedai on 11 March 2015, 08:50:33 AM
I'm sure I only previewed the post and then posted it as normal. it could be me but others have said that the preview function was playing up. Could that have something to do with it?
:-??
Not a clue, Sub....Sorry. :(
Cheers - Phil......I'm having to go to the home page to check what I've just burbled, and modify it quickly if something looks wrong.
Ooo, I have only just now been able to look at the FPW game on Belisarius's blog - absolutely gorgeous! =P~
Chris
Isn't it just! Have you seen Weewars' reduced footprint 10mm MDF building set?
Quote from: Techno on 10 March 2015, 09:50:43 PM
What's going on with these quote boxes ? :-\
How strange.
Cheers - Phil
All fixed now, the [/ quote] code was missing from Sub's post, which also threw out mollinary's post as well.
Quote from: Leon on 11 March 2015, 02:49:27 PM
All fixed now, the [/ quote] code was missing from Sub's post, which also threw out mollinary's post as well.
Well done , that man! Take a minute off! :D
Mollinary
Whoops, sorry chaps!
Thanks Leon, you're a brick.
8)
Leon's a what?
I have started to make the terrain for BBB Spicheren. This has coincided with a delivery of new chairs to the club, so I made off with all the good sturdy boxes. My method is to make card terrain levels and then lay a cloth over; a time honoured method. I started by cutting open a box and then, using the scenario map grid squares as a guide, drawing out the contours on the card.
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g440/dourpuritan/BBB%206mm%20armies/IMG_1544_zps9k1k3d6d.jpg)
I then cut these out. The whole of the western side is steep sloped so I traced what I had cut out onto another layer of cardboard and cut that too. One contour made up of two layers will denote a steep slope. I then cut out all the gentler sloped contours and laid them out. The green circle is a village base. I put this one out (Schoneck) to gauge the size.
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g440/dourpuritan/BBB%206mm%20armies/IMG_1545_zpsvvfekjmy.jpg)
Once everything is set up I will be able to judge how successful it has been.
Fantastic!
Having walked it, some of those slopes are REALLY steep! ;)
Well done, you, Leman! Hope it turns out to be a success.
When dismantling a cardboard box earlier today, took a few minutes looking at the dismantled sides .. :-\ ... then decided, "Naw. Too much to do. Another day ... "
And binned it. :-<
Well done Leman, good to see the wargaming tradition of reuse being maintained ;)
You've confused me twice with this, first in flipping over the hills between photos, and secondly by appearing to have done this on my carpet - although it's not my fireplace!!
Good way of making hills for a particular battle, it would have been very hard to get some of those ridges from generic hills.
With the steep hills, it might be worth cutting the top layer about 1cm in, just to help the cloth lay a bit better.
Thanks for that. It's a first run so see how we go. I may end up having to go three or even four layers deep. My hands hurt now as well. Uncut version viewed from the Prussian approach, whilst the cut version is from the French side.
As someone who has done this for Altar of Freedom I can say it is well worth the effort.
This looks intriguing. Following with interest.
Took the cardboard down the club yesterday. Making villages today from the paper terrain 3mm models. Fiddly but a nice result. However, although I'll probably be able to get these done, I don't think I'll manage the TBM towns so will make do with the Brigade Miniatures for now. Hope to have the towns done for Froeschwiller.
Here is the battlefield set up at last for Spicheren. Unfortunately, since I upgraded to Yosemite nothing works the way it did before I can now only post one photo at a time so here come a lot of messages from me
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g440/dourpuritan/BBB%206mm%20armies/IMG_1566_zpsewhx7nq7.jpg)
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g440/dourpuritan/BBB%206mm%20armies/IMG_1567_zpsszu1uqal.jpg)
Nice setup. Are you using Teddy bear fur?
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g440/dourpuritan/BBB%206mm%20armies/IMG_1569_zpsb1ee9t5j.jpg)
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g440/dourpuritan/BBB%206mm%20armies/IMG_1573_zpsvj8jjy6i.jpg)
The opposing Prussians with disrupted markers (yellow), spent markers (red) and silenced explosions.
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g440/dourpuritan/BBB%206mm%20armies/IMG_1572_zpslfyrrjfn.jpg)
Finally a shot of some of the Bavarians in preparation for Froeschwiller
Very nice Leman!
Love the Bavarians too.
Quote from: Fenton on 28 June 2015, 05:09:58 PM
Nice setup. Are you using Teddy bear fur?
It's not teddy fur but a throw from Amazon advertised as faux mink. I hung it over the washing line and randomly sprayed it with a darker green and a sand colour.
Thanks Looks well
Quote from: Leman on 28 June 2015, 05:22:50 PM
It's not teddy fur but a throw from Amazon advertised as faux mink. I hung it over the washing line and randomly sprayed it with a darker green and a sand colour.
Was it this one?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Extra-Large-Luxury-Green-Throw/dp/B009ROKT2E/ref=sr_1_97?ie=UTF8&qid=1435512603&sr=8-97&keywords=Faux+mink
Sorry to be annoying
That's the one. It comes with short strands on one side and longer strands on the other. I use the short side with 6mm and 10mm, and probably with 15mm, but I will use the longer side with the 28s. How many war-games companies make a single cloth for different scales?
Cheers I think I will get one next pay day
:-bd =D> :-bd =D>
Oooh, now that is looking mouthwateringly good!
Chris
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Nice looking table. From the top pictures the quite tasty looking buildings aren't too far out of scale, it's only when you put figures and buildings together in the same shot that it becomes more noticeable.
Hoping to get my first TBM tile down the club for Thursday to replace Forbach. I think they fit even better with 6mm, but they are too big a footprint for village, hence the expanding use of the Paper Terrain buildings.
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g440/dourpuritan/BBB%206mm%20armies/IMG_1574_zpsoekdmsga.jpg)
As promised a TBM 3mm tile with an Irregular 6mm base of FPW French. A totally different kettle of fish compared to the Brigade Models buildings.
That looks very nice!
What's the approx foot print of the TBM 3mm town sectors?
Nice stuff, Leman. A few of those should look just the job.
Mollinary
They look really good, not too far out of scale at all...unless it is a Father Ted 'Near and Far Away' moment.
The footprint is approx 4"square, which I can live with as I tend to use 30mm rather than 25mm frontage bases.
Have you about making the roads in 3mm scale as well
Quote from: Leman on 01 July 2015, 04:49:32 PM
The footprint is approx 4"square, which I can live with as I tend to use 30mm rather than 25mm frontage bases.
So about 4"/10cm a side (ish, as they're irregular in shape)?
That's pretty hefty - would make a very decent sized town each for what I was thinking! Good value then, from the price :)
Wonder if I can justify some for big BUAs. Do you know how they mesh with Irregulars "town peices" in their 2mm ranges?
The irregular ones are very small. There probably too small for irregulars 2mm range
Quote from: Fenton on 01 July 2015, 04:57:34 PM
Have you about making the roads in 3mm scale as well
Yes got some with more on order. Also may upgrade my railway from lolly sticks to rubber in 3mm.
The Irregular 2mm buildings are similar to Brigade Models 3mm - see page 3 of this thread. The best fit I have found is the Paper Terrain buildings from the US. They have an odd postage system in that it seems ridiculously high on the website, but once you have ordered you get some of the postage back as a refund back into your credit card. No idea why it's done like that.
Quote from: Fenton on 01 July 2015, 05:17:38 PM
The irregular ones are very small. There probably too small for irregulars 2mm range
I'm looking at them as "map markers", as it were as I'm aiming for a staff map sort of look for my 2mm stuff so I think I'll stick with getting some more of irregulars stuff when I can :) Nice as those TBM tiles are they're probably too much and too nice.
I am trying to standardise my building groups on specific base sizes per type. Therefore a hamlet of about 3 or 4 small buildings is on a 60mm x 40mm, a village on 80 x 60 and a town on an 120 x 120. Larger areas can be made simply by adding more bases.
Good plan :)
This is outstanding! It deserves a spot as a sticky in the Scenics sub forum. Thanks Leman. I have been struggling with how to setup for my refight
of Reichenberg. I'm going to use this!
Quote from: Leman on 15 June 2015, 07:48:35 PM
I have started to make the terrain for BBB Spicheren. This has coincided with a delivery of new chairs to the club, so I made off with all the good sturdy boxes. My method is to make card terrain levels and then lay a cloth over; a time honoured method. I started by cutting open a box and then, using the scenario map grid squares as a guide, drawing out the contours on the card.
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g440/dourpuritan/BBB%206mm%20armies/IMG_1544_zps9k1k3d6d.jpg)
I then cut these out. The whole of the western side is steep sloped so I traced what I had cut out onto another layer of cardboard and cut that too. One contour made up of two layers will denote a steep slope. I then cut out all the gentler sloped contours and laid them out. The green circle is a village base. I put this one out (Schoneck) to gauge the size.
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g440/dourpuritan/BBB%206mm%20armies/IMG_1545_zpsvvfekjmy.jpg)
Once everything is set up I will be able to judge how successful it has been.
Glad you like it - it did give a very good game. The next outing will be Froeschwiller using the same system.
I am at last making some progress towards playing Froeschwiller. The latest offerings:
An Irregular Napoleonic command re-painted as French 1870:
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g440/dourpuritan/BBB%206mm%20armies/IMG_1815_zps4x6wdm5n.jpg)
Baccus Bavarian artillery:
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g440/dourpuritan/BBB%206mm%20armies/IMG_1810_zpsbvnvhvpa.jpg)
Baccus Bavarian cavalry:
(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g440/dourpuritan/BBB%206mm%20armies/IMG_1813_zps0rllt321.jpg)
There must be something about BBB as, at the moment, I am working on completing the 2mm Langensalza, 3mm Peter Pig Shiloh and 6mm Froeschwiller. Must be mad!
So, Risorgamento in 10mm, Crimea in 15mm, Danish Wars in 20mm and Balkan Wars of Independce in 28?!
TBH I do have Risorgimento stuff in 10mm, but Crimea is 6mm and Danish (1864) is 2mm. These, along with the 10mm Pacific War are in resting mode at present.
Ohhh, they are nice.
MickS
Tak, you need to add a few more scales just for completeness ;)
:-bd =D> :-bd
Very nice, Andy ! :)
Cheers - Phil