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Breidenbach Dragoon, managed a couple of hours painting :).
Cheers Al.
EDIT: Pic resized.
Wow! Love the shading on that.
Very cool! 8)
Damn fine job :-bd......Especially as it's about 7 times life size on my screen.
Love to see that 'in the flesh metal'
Cheers - Phil
Very nice indeed
Take care
Andy
:-bd =D> :-bd =D> :-bd =D>
Very impressive
Excellent work, very nice!
8)
Very impressive.
Superb! :)
Tasty.
Bit nice that. The strongly contrasted shading works soooo well in this scale.
=D> :-bd
A wonderful individual figure - but what would an entire unit painted to that standard look like? :o :o :o
Mollinary
Looking superb
Cheers guys, just going to start priming a few. Not sure about base size as I'm not a gamer, but would like to base them in case I decide to use them in anger. Was thinking 25 or 30mm square, 6 foot or 3 mounted per base giving me 5 bases per unit.
No idea about rules, but they need to be simple and suit solo play.
Cheers Billy no mates :'(
F you're only doing 6 per base go with 25mm or even 20mm. Personally I put 8 on a 25mm base to get the close order files look of the period.
Whole units painted to this level will look ace.
30mm squares are a nice size, and should fit the number of figures you are suggesting well. You can always use a few less figures for lighter or skirmishing units.
Square bases will give you a lot of flexibility for choosing a rule set, as square bases and rectangular ones with a 2:1 ratio are both very common, so you can either use your bases as is, or put two together to give a rectangular base.
for my SYW armies, I use 25mmx20mm with 6 minis. ( 25x25mm with 3 horses for cavalry)
Two ( or four ) bases for a unit (it depends of the scale and the minis available/finished)
I game with Might and Reason ( solo and 2 players) There are others rules ( I didn't like Maurice very much, but it could be ok, each his own taste ;) )
I have found square bases work well with Maurice, Field of Battle 2, Minden Rose and Black Powder.
Great painting Al, looking forward to seeing more. I also dont game as yet, i use 30x30s 6 inf and 3 cav per base, look nice and seem compatible with various rules.
kev
Hi Kev, I've just had a look at your AWI stuff. I really don't know how you do it they are stunning, and the base size really works, suiting the perhaps more open nature formations in this conflict. I will probably go with 25mm and 6 but I quite like the look of 8 for massed infantry.
Here a question for the SYW buffs, if I use 5 bases per unit including command with 6 figures a base, how many grenadiers should I include and should they be on the flanks ?
Cheers Al.
Brilliant painting, Al. Don't worry too much about a particular base size - as a rule of thumb, most decent rules will work so long as both sides are on the same size bases.
For those of you wanting an idea of what a unit would look like, just go to Ali's Bucket and click on the arrows. :-bd
Quote from: Hertsblue on 29 December 2014, 02:28:45 PM
For those of you wanting an idea of what a unit would look like, just go to Ali's Bucket and click on the arrows. :-bd
Have I missed a link?
Mollinary
Quote from: ali657 on 29 December 2014, 02:13:02 PM
Hi Kev, I've just had a look at your AWI stuff. I really don't know how you do it they are stunning, and the base size really works, suiting the perhaps more open nature formations in this conflict. I will probably go with 25mm and 6 but I quite like the look of 8 for massed infantry.
Here a question for the SYW buffs, if I use 5 bases per unit including command with 6 figures a base, how many grenadiers should I include and should they be on the flanks ?
Cheers Al.
Hello Ali657!!
I too am tempted by SYW period with "Maurice" rules and "M & R", and I think also in the stands 25x25mm: 6 regular foot / 3 regular cavalry and 3 or 4 irregular foot / 2 irregular cavalry
the three horsemen are a little tight on 25mm, but it works
the advantage is that this system allows the use of two rules without changing anything
but having said beautiful painting !!! it will be great to see the complete units
eric
Quote from: bradpitre on 29 December 2014, 04:05:36 PM
I think also in the stands 25x25mm: 6 regular foot / 3 regular cavalry and 3 or 4 irregular foot / 2 irregular cavalry
the three horsemen are a little tight on 25mm, but it works
That is what I am doing for Napoleonics.
www.michaelscott.name/1809/1809blogpost37-04.htm (http://www.michaelscott.name/1809/1809blogpost37-04.htm)
www.michaelscott.name/1809/1809blogpost127.htm (http://www.michaelscott.name/1809/1809blogpost127.htm)
www.michaelscott.name/1809/1809blogpost125.htm (http://www.michaelscott.name/1809/1809blogpost125.htm)
www.michaelscott.name/1809/1809blogpost164.htm (http://www.michaelscott.name/1809/1809blogpost164.htm)
Cheers, Michael
Ali657 - which armies are you doing? The Austrian, Prussian and Russian grenadiers were removed from the line battalions and put together in their own battalions.
Hello DP, I'm doing British and Hanovarian with perhaps some of the minor German states. Related to this would the AWI German packs be suitable, I particularly like the Fusiliers.
Cheers Al.
Hi Al,
Great painting! Both the British and the Hanoverians combined their grenadiers into separate battalions on campaign.
Mollinary
Amazing work ali657 !!!!
Don't forget the upcoming Pendraken painting competition ;) A guy with your talents should participate :)
I think I may have some SYW figures I can paint up :D
Quote from: Dour Puritan on 28 December 2014, 09:25:49 PM
F you're only doing 6 per base go with 25mm or even 20mm. Personally I put 8 on a 25mm base to get the close order files look of the period.
I second DP. IMO 30mm square bases are for 6 x
18mm (marching) figures and so, far too large for close order 10mm figures (it has to be
close order for the SYW).
You also said you were considering 5 bases per unit so, at 6 figures per base that is 30 per unit. I recommend 4 bases per unit. Why? Because as well as representing line and march column, you can also neatly represent attack column and square (granted the last 2 were not common in the SYW but they were used).
And if you plan to paint roughly 30 figures per unit, you may as well base them 8 per base to get that special SYW look. 4 bases is also useful for Maurice, Might & Reason, Field of Battle and King of the Battlefield - 5 bases with these rule systems gives you a redundant base (although, to be fair, you can suit yourself with most rule systems and go outside the author's preferred unit sizes) (also, theoretically, 4 bases are 20% quicker to move than 5 !). I use all of these rules and Black Powder for SYW.
As for Horse, 3 fit nicely on 1 inch (25mm) square bases. Mine are based thus (with some odd Hussar bases with 2 figs only.) and so are DPs (I think). And to provide additional 'conformity' my artillery is also based on 1 inch wide bases (but 1.5 inch deep). Choose wisely. My advice is based on the experience of
getting it wrong (IMO anyway) after 2 re-basings before I got the look, adaptability and efficiency I was looking for. Good luck.
Cheers Mollinary, seperate grenadier bases it is then. Potentially a converged unit could have different facing colours then?
Thank you Westmarcher, I am leaning towards 25mm square bases. I have no idea about rules, so my 30 figure unit idea was based on the Pendraken pack size and having 5 bases so the command would in the middle. But if 4 bases is the norm that's ok. I might try Maurice but I have no idea why, but I would like to start on the right foot and not have to rebase later.
Cheers Al.
Quote from: ali657 on 29 December 2014, 07:54:10 PM
Cheers Mollinary, seperate grenadier bases it is then. Potentially a converged unit could have different facing colours then?
Yes, a converged grenadier battalion would have a number of different facing colours, reflecting the parent units whose grenadiers it included. I think I could find these out, unless any other forum members have it more conveniently to hand? I believe the first British contingent sent to Euorpe had a Grenadier battalion called Maxwell, after its commander?
Mollinary
Hi Mollinary, had a quick Google and came up with this from TMP. Maxwell's made up of 12th 20th 23rd 25th 37th and 51st. Welshs made up of 5th 8th 11th 24th 33rd and 50th. This is quite addictive. Cheers Al.
Quote from: ali657 on 29 December 2014, 10:32:52 PM
Hi Mollinary, had a quick Google and came up with this from TMP. Maxwell's made up of 12th 20th 23rd 25th 37th and 51st. Welshs made up of 5th 8th 11th 24th 33rd and 50th. This is quite addictive. Cheers Al.
And so it begins... ;) ;D ;D
Quote from: ali657 on 29 December 2014, 08:17:52 PM
... so my 30 figure unit idea was based on the Pendraken pack size ...but I would like to start on the right foot and not have to rebase later.
If you are doing multiple units it often works out, also if you speak nicely to Leon they will do part packs :)
You
definitely want to avoid rebasing ~X( ~X( ~X( ~X(
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First picture is 4x25mm square bases with three cavalry per base.
Second picture shows Austrian infantry. the two units in march column to the right are based three per base, the furthest right being combined grenadiers and showing the different facing colours. The two units to the left are based with 8 per base. Actually the red facings unit has the two end bases with 7 figures. the end figure in each back rank of the two flanks is placed slightly apart from the other two figures to represent a NCO.
On checking that the grenadiers and friend are 6 per base and the red facings unit is 8 on each base, but I have used the 7 figure wheeze to use a complete Pendraken pack before now.
Rather splendid, once again, DP. :-bd
Cheers - Phil
Nice work DP
Very nice DP, doubt I will ever have similar set up. Those cavalry look like they could be painted up as Luckner Hussars, but I think I have enough to be going on with.
Cheers Al.