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Title: 15mm buildings with 10mm figures?
Post by: pierre the shy on 26 December 2014, 09:37:19 AM
Well I hope everyone got what they wanted for Christmas  ;)

Bowler's boys are off to Dirstraat in Northern France tomorrow night to get in some practice with ITLSU prior to refighting Nery next month.

Having got all my 1914 finished been looking at what's next on my gaming radar apart from more ITLSU gaming, probably in the middle east ca 1917 going by the rate Paul is painting up units  :o

My thoughts have been whetted by seeing some France 1940 campaign stuff for TFL's Chain of Command.

Looking at using PM 10mm fiugures/vehicles but I see that timecast is having a end of range sale on their 15mm normandy buildings (half price!!)

Wondering if anyone had comments on how good (or bad) 10mm figures etc scale with 15mm buildings? bearing in mind that CoC tables are quite small and would not have a lot of buildings on table usually.


 

Title: Re: 15mm buildings with 10mm figures?
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 26 December 2014, 10:23:32 AM
Too big I'm afraid. It's better to go the other way.

IanS
Title: Re: 15mm buildings with 10mm figures?
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 26 December 2014, 10:26:36 AM
They are lovely.
Their 15mm buildings are all sculpted as close as possible to the measurements of the actual buildings (when they started doing this they were really the only people in the field doing it, now the rest of the world has caught up). This means their building are often large on a 15mm scale, and in 10mm would be even bigger (the smallest building is c5cm square, the largest is 25cm by 15cm. When I first started providing terrain for Flames of War competitions, people would complain about the large size, now with the rise of 4ground et al, whole towns appear to scale, and no one blinks!
Maybe you could use them to denote areas of buildings?

Not meaning to sound crotchety here, just many years 15mm gaming with terrain I've tried to make accurate, and people moaning buildings are too large/close together... Mostly ex DBM players who want billiard tables!!
Title: Re: 15mm buildings with 10mm figures?
Post by: Leman on 26 December 2014, 11:27:45 AM
Definitely too big for 10mm. I'm actually moving up scale from 6mm to 10mm buildings for some of my smaller mid-C19th games, but for larger battles I go with 6mm. 10mm sometimes feature in my 10mm SYW games. I shudder to think what 15mm would look like:

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g440/dourpuritan/10mm%20SYW/IMG_1384_zpsdc7ba63c.jpg)

One of the most extravagant purchases I have ever made - 10mm ready painted and based from Timecast.
Title: Re: 15mm buildings with 10mm figures?
Post by: Wulf on 26 December 2014, 11:38:34 AM
I've also been considering 15mm buildings for CoC (and also France 1940!), but the relative scales have put me off too. In a skirmish game buildings should look in scale. Technically, a 15mm mini should be about 9' tall - more realistically, about 8', but still, they need bigger doors and higher ceilings.

Most of my buildings are printed paper, so I can rescale - I'm already printing to what the publisher calls '12mm' rather than 10mm, and details like doors and windowsill levels look wrong (but at least I can get access to place & move figures inside!) I may still buy certain buildings that aren't so scale dependant (ruins, industrial buildings, etc.), but for houses they'd have to be a very small 15mm to look right.
Title: Re: 15mm buildings with 10mm figures?
Post by: Maenoferren on 26 December 2014, 12:30:21 PM
I bought a set of 15mm print your own Normandy buildings. They look good and should be scaleable down to 10mm. I got them from Wargames vault. They also do a damaged version of them too. I will see if I have some photos on photobucket.
Title: Re: 15mm buildings with 10mm figures?
Post by: Wulf on 26 December 2014, 12:53:24 PM
Are those the 'Battlelands15' Normandy sets? I have them, very nice, although the breaks in the ruins look a bit angular to me (easier to cut out though!) I also use a lot of Dave Graffem paper buildings, although most of them are distinctly medieval. Some look perfect as rural French though, and his ruins have a nicely complete, complex look. Which is a pain to cut out...
Title: Re: 15mm buildings with 10mm figures?
Post by: Maenoferren on 26 December 2014, 01:03:03 PM
Quote from: Wulf on 26 December 2014, 12:53:24 PM
Are those the 'Battlelands15' Normandy sets? I have them, very nice, although the breaks in the ruins look a bit angular to me (easier to cut out though!) I also use a lot of Dave Graffem paper buildings, although most of them are distinctly medieval. Some look perfect as rural French though, and his ruins have a nicely complete, complex look. Which is a pain to cut out...

Yep they are the ones I have. I didn't get the ruins as I made my own by cutting. I have some Dave buildings too but never shrunk them down.
Title: Re: 15mm buildings with 10mm figures?
Post by: pierre the shy on 26 December 2014, 07:32:46 PM
OK thanks for all the replies - thoiught that they'd be a bit big, pity as they look amazing.

So either the figures get taller or the buildings get smaller  :-\

I'll think about that one....something to chew over tonight standing round Roy's kitchen at half time :)

PS Very nice SYW table DP.