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Wider Wargaming => Resources => Resources - Ancients to Renaissance (3000BC - 1680) => Topic started by: Druzhina on 18 November 2014, 09:40:19 AM

Title: Negroes & Mamluk or Ilkhanid cavalry in Kitāb al-mawālīd, 13thC
Post by: Druzhina on 18 November 2014, 09:40:19 AM
The Kitāb al-mawālīd (Book of nativities), attributed to Abū Maٔšar, contains pictures of Negroes & armoured Mamluk or Ilkhanid cavalry (http://www.warfare.meximas.com/13/Kitab_al-Mawalid.htm) of the late 13th century. It is written in Arabic but where it was made is uncertain. It shows the figures of the zodiac signs & the phases of the moon personified.
The Demon Zauba'a with mace (http://www.warfare.meximas.com/13/Kitab_al-Mawalid-Demon.htm)
Negroes in Taurus, Leo, Libra & Pisces (http://www.warfare.meximas.com/13/Kitab_al-Mawalid-Others.htm)
Negroes in phases of the moon (http://www.warfare.meximas.com/13/Kitab_al-Mawalid-Negroes.htm) with links to full folios.
Mamluk or Ilkhanid Armoured Cavalry (http://www.warfare.meximas.com/13/Kitab_al-Mawalid-Heavy_Cavalry.htm)
Turkic style archers in Sagittarius (http://www.warfare.meximas.com/13/Kitab_al-Mawalid-Sagittarius.htm)
Negroes with axe & armoured cavalry with ventail in Capricorn (http://www.warfare.meximas.com/13/Kitab_al-Mawalid-Capricorn.htm)
Negroes in Aquarius (http://www.warfare.meximas.com/13/Kitab_al-Mawalid-Aquarius.htm)
(http://i1368.photobucket.com/albums/ag197/druzhina345/13/Mawalid/Kitab_al-Mawalid-4v-n.jpg)

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Kitāb al-mawālīd (Book of nativities), attributed to Abū Maٔšar, contains pictures of Negroes & armoured Mamluk or Ilkhanid cavalry (http://www.warfare2.likamva.in/13/Kitab_al-Mawalid.htm) of the late 13th century.

Druzhina
13th Century Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers (http://www.warfare2.netai.net/13C.htm)
Title: Re: Negroes & Mamluk or Ilkhanid cavalry in Kitāb al-mawālīd, 13thC
Post by: Techno on 18 November 2014, 10:19:35 AM
Interesting. Good find, D.
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Negroes & Mamluk or Ilkhanid cavalry in Kitāb al-mawālīd, 13thC
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 18 November 2014, 05:54:00 PM
Well, that's one way to illustrate it... ;)
Title: Re: Negroes & Mamluk or Ilkhanid cavalry in Kitāb al-mawālīd, 13thC
Post by: Subedai on 19 November 2014, 09:36:44 AM
More interesting source material. Nice find.
Title: Re: Negroes & Mamluk or Ilkhanid cavalry in Kitāb al-mawālīd, 13thC
Post by: jchaos79 on 23 November 2014, 03:31:47 PM
(http://i648.photobucket.com/albums/uu205/jchaos79/Medieval%20WM/Tribalinfantry.jpg)

used as the personal guard of the Miramamolin (Muhammad al Nasir) early 13th century Spain almohad army.

Title: Re: Negroes & Mamluk or Ilkhanid cavalry in Kitāb al-mawālīd, 13thC
Post by: Dunnadd on 02 February 2015, 12:47:53 AM
Why are they putting a naked person on a goat and then threatening them with swords in one of those? I get that the goat represents capricorn - it's the rest i don't get
Title: Re: Negroes & Mamluk or Ilkhanid cavalry in Kitāb al-mawālīd, 13thC
Post by: Druzhina on 03 February 2015, 04:38:04 AM
Quote from: Dunnadd on 02 February 2015, 12:47:53 AM
Why are they putting a naked person on a goat and then threatening them with swords in one of those? I get that the goat represents capricorn - it's the rest i don't get
The other figures in the main panel may represent planets. The Kitāb al-Bulhān has Saturn riding Capricorn.
If you could read 13th century Arabic it would probably make some sense.


Druzhina
13th Century Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers (http://www.warfare.netau.net/13C.htm)
Title: Re: Negroes & Mamluk or Ilkhanid cavalry in Kitāb al-mawālīd, 13thC
Post by: Dunnadd on 02 March 2015, 08:15:25 PM
Trust me -  i can't even read a single word of present day Arabic  :) - but thanks for the info
Title: Re: Negroes & Mamluk or Ilkhanid cavalry in Kitāb al-mawālīd, 13thC
Post by: getagrip on 02 March 2015, 09:10:15 PM
Quote from: Dunnadd on 02 February 2015, 12:47:53 AM
Why are they putting a naked person on a goat and then threatening them with swords in one of those? I get that the goat represents capricorn - it's the rest i don't get

Everyone needs a hobby  :D
Title: Re: Negroes & Mamluk or Ilkhanid cavalry in Kitāb al-mawālīd, 13thC
Post by: Druzhina on 03 March 2015, 01:18:04 AM
BTW, the Old-Testament prophecy about riding the ass and her colt may be about the stars "The Ass and her Colt" and the astronomical timing of an event rather than the confusing Gospel accounts where one has Jesus riding an ass and another has him riding 2 asses, when entering Jerusalem.

Druzhina
13th Century Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers (http://www.warfare.uhostfull.com/13C.htm)