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Title: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 16 November 2014, 11:48:49 PM
Hi All

I came across this when I was looking for other stuff and I thought it might come in handy for Colonial types:-

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-DIY-TOY-ASSEMBLED-TOY-Paddle-wheel-electric-assembling-model-new-arrival-2013-southers-equipment/2035416849.html (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Free-shipping-DIY-TOY-ASSEMBLED-TOY-Paddle-wheel-electric-assembling-model-new-arrival-2013-southers-equipment/2035416849.html)

Here's another that has free shipping:-

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Paddle-wheel-electric-assembling-model-electric-boat-remote-control-boat-educational-toys-birthday-gift/2025990828.html (http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Paddle-wheel-electric-assembling-model-electric-boat-remote-control-boat-educational-toys-birthday-gift/2025990828.html)

(http://i01.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v0/2035416849/-DIY-toys-assembling-toys-electric-toys-paddle-wheel-assembly-model-new-arrival-2015-Christmas-gift.jpg)

Now I haven't seen it, or dealt with the company or even Aliexpress before but it looks like it might come in handy for those looking for a colonial type ship. It's even motorised  :D. If I can get some of my other stuff painted and based it might even end up somewhere on the Yangtze  :D.

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: FierceKitty on 17 November 2014, 04:47:24 AM
Be warned that I've had unpleasant and expensive encounters with Chinese sellers, getting very wrong stuff in huge quantities. And if it's tricky calling the Royal Mail to account, think about trying to sort things out on the other side of the world.
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: Dave Fielder on 17 November 2014, 11:43:38 AM
Motorised? Wargames in the bath? Happy days ...
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: Sunray on 17 November 2014, 04:19:45 PM
 ;D

The length some gamers go to when they can't paint water.

Seriously,  I was thinking that minus the paddles it would fit nicely into 20th century up until the 1940s. Keep us posted if you acquire one.  I would love to know if it is true 1/150 as claimed.

I also note the product is described as 'diecast' - Hmmmm ....not the most buoyant material.....but hey OK on a table

Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 17 November 2014, 09:54:38 PM
Hello FK

Quote from: FierceKitty on 17 November 2014, 04:47:24 AM
Be warned that I've had unpleasant and expensive encounters with Chinese sellers, getting very wrong stuff in huge quantities. And if it's tricky calling the Royal Mail to account, think about trying to sort things out on the other side of the world.

Yes I've had those experiences too. My first move has been to contact the reliable Chinese sellers I've dealt with before to see if they carry or can carry this kit. I've also contacted the Aliexpress sellers to see if they also have Paypal.

Cheers, I'll let people know how I get on with this.

GrumpyOldMan (a person that has more ships and planes than he knows what to do with  :D )
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: Maenoferren on 17 November 2014, 10:06:02 PM
oooooooooh Shiny .......

would be interested to see how you get on and hopefully it isn't diecast as it will be a sod to cut to a waterline level.

Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 18 November 2014, 08:50:21 AM
Not too bad with a junior hacksaw...done a few matchbox and corgis over the years.

IanS
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: GordonY on 19 November 2014, 09:21:06 AM
My god, its a footlong (hot dog reference) but seriously how many tables are you gonna be able to fit a 12" long boat onto?
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 19 November 2014, 09:26:55 AM
Well we did one 6mm CWC game based on the coast of Norway, complete with Arnheim bridge, and Oil Rig, and we were looking to do a 1/300 Iowa, befroe cost intervevend, mind you it were a big table. So a foot long paddler would be no problem.

IanS
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: Maenoferren on 19 November 2014, 02:09:12 PM
Quote from: GordonY on 19 November 2014, 09:21:06 AM
My god, its a footlong (hot dog reference) but seriously how many tables are you gonna be able to fit a 12" long boat onto?
eek that's a bit big
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 20 November 2014, 01:12:47 AM
Quote from: GordonY on 19 November 2014, 09:21:06 AM
My god, its a footlong (hot dog reference) but seriously how many tables are you gonna be able to fit a 12" long boat onto?

It's not what you do with it, but how big it is  ;D ;D ;D.

Seriously, a ship this size would be used as an objective, entry point, exit point or reinforcement access rather than a continuing integral gaming piece. Also useful as an artillery support unit. I've used the Zhong Shan for most of these roles (18" base)

Or maybe just as eye candy, it doesn't have to move  :D

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: toxicpixie on 20 November 2014, 10:10:58 AM
Looks reasonably uncluttered, time for a stirring bayonet charge down the deck!
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 20 November 2014, 12:03:08 PM
Quote from: toxicpixie on 20 November 2014, 10:10:58 AM
Looks reasonably uncluttered, time for a stirring bayonet charge down the deck!

Surely boarding pike and cutlass ?

IanS
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: toxicpixie on 20 November 2014, 12:15:48 PM
Bah, we're into the Victorian Era here, do keep up with the times old chap!

Martini-Henerieries and bayonets and pepperpot pistols dont'chaknow!
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 20 November 2014, 09:51:11 PM
Hello All

Couldn't get anybody to play with me so I'm getting the ship from Aliexpress using a debit Visa card.

Adventures in Aliexpress

Day 1 - 19/11 China date - Paid for ship. Got an email saying that payment had been successfully made but with this rider:-

'Currently, your payment is "Being Verified". Payments are usually verified within 24 hours. After verification, the supplier will begin to process your order.
During this time, you are unable to do any operation on your order. '  :-\ :-\

Will let you know how I get on.

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 21 November 2014, 09:20:39 AM
Quote from: toxicpixie on 20 November 2014, 12:15:48 PM
Bah, we're into the Victorian Era here, do keep up with the times old chap!

Martini-Henerieries and bayonets and pepperpot pistols dont'chaknow!

No - the cutlass was certainly carried on Dover Patrol destroyers in 14-18. The martini henry would be a bit big for use in confined spaces. Victorian era - PEPPERPOT, no a good British revolver, Enfield or Webly old chap.

IanS
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: toxicpixie on 21 November 2014, 09:44:10 AM
I was thinking a little before the Wibbley-Wobbley-Webley, but that's probably pre-paddle steamers to be fair :D

A line of ratings with Martini's should clear the deck nicely though. Especially if they're stirred, not shaken!
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 24 November 2014, 07:11:21 AM
Hello All

Quote from: GrumpyOldMan on 20 November 2014, 09:51:11 PM

Day 1 - 19/11 China date - Paid for ship. Got an email saying that payment had been successfully made

Next step:-

Day 6 - 24/11 China date - Got email to say that item had been shipped, with tracking number. Good response since website says processing time is 15 days.

I don't usually have any problems with anything posted from China. (main problem area for me is USPS  :-\)

Will let you know how it progresses.

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: mart678 on 27 November 2014, 11:02:45 AM
Check out the Waverly a paddle steamer built in 1946 still going today
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 27 November 2014, 12:14:17 PM
Ordered a laptop battery from China end October, arrived on the 22nd, Amazon quoted 9th to 29th November.

IanS
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 27 November 2014, 11:56:18 PM
Hello All

Quote from: GrumpyOldMan on 24 November 2014, 07:11:21 AM
Day 6 - 24/11 China date - Got email to say that item had been shipped, with tracking number. Good response since website says processing time is 15 days.

First stumbling block, the tracking number is not showing up so probably fake, or waiting to post. Have written to them asking for real tracking number and letting them know that I won't play in Aliexpress' hoops but will go straight for credit card dispute.

Cheers

GrumyOldMan
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: FierceKitty on 28 November 2014, 05:43:56 AM
Remember the Chinese revenge rule of "nine generations". It is your duty to take revenge not only on your wronger, but also on his parents, grandparents, great-grandparents, and great-great-grandparents; as on his children, grandchildren, great-grandchildren, and great-great-grandchildren.

Levenge is dish best served with mincing machine and conveyor belt. (The Confucian Apocrypha, vol vii)
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: Hertsblue on 28 November 2014, 09:46:57 AM
Actually, I'd be far more interested in the massive USS Enterprise in the background.  =P~ =P~ =P~
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 29 November 2014, 08:31:55 AM
In 10mm ??????

IanS  ;)
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 30 November 2014, 03:20:23 AM
Hello All

Quote from: GrumpyOldMan on 27 November 2014, 11:56:18 PM
First stumbling block, the tracking number is not showing up so probably fake, or waiting to post. Have written to them asking for real tracking number and letting them know that I won't play in Aliexpress' hoops but will go straight for credit card dispute.


After a few stern emails with the seller, the package now miraculously shows up as posted - BUT ON 30/11 NOT 24/11 as per original advice.

It's amazing, if you can get a reputation as a good seller in China, the world will beat a path to your door and you can live very well.... Beats me!

Stay with me while I work through this  :).

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: FierceKitty on 30 November 2014, 05:17:49 AM
Watching and cheering you on. :)
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: Maenoferren on 30 November 2014, 12:59:47 PM
I demand a map with a dotted line that shows the progress of your package... the 6 missing days would have been interesting..lots of twists and turns and cross overs :)
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: fsn on 30 November 2014, 01:12:14 PM
Quote from: Maenoferren on 30 November 2014, 12:59:47 PM
I demand a map with a dotted line that shows the progress of your package... the 6 missing days would have been interesting..lots of twists and turns and cross overs :)

It's in the post.

Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: Hertsblue on 01 December 2014, 10:56:55 AM
Quote from: Maenoferren on 30 November 2014, 12:59:47 PM
I demand a map with a dotted line that shows the progress of your package... the 6 missing days would have been interesting..lots of twists and turns and cross overs :)


Or just one blob....
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: mart678 on 02 December 2014, 02:23:59 PM
You could have gone to Korea and ordered a 1:1 scale from one of the ship yards would probably be steaming to you already LOL  :D :D
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 02 December 2014, 11:55:54 PM
Hello All

The information on tracking is as follows:-
       Year   Status                      Location   Destination   Date
   2014   Received by China Post   31800012   Australia   20141130 0915
   2014   Export Customs Scan      Hangzhou   Australia   20141202 0836
   2014   Export Security Scan      Hangzhou   Australia   20141202 1106

I wonder what will happen next to it?

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan

Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: paulr on 03 December 2014, 03:53:11 AM
Has anyone told the people of Hangzhou they are now in Australia :o :o :o
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: Hertsblue on 03 December 2014, 11:24:00 AM
China Post - isn't that a newspaper?
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: Techno on 03 December 2014, 03:26:07 PM
Quote from: GrumpyOldMan on 02 December 2014, 11:55:54 PM
The information on tracking is as follows:-
       Year   Status                      Location   Destination   Date
   2014   Received by China Post   31800012   Australia   20141130 0915
   2014   Export Customs Scan      Hangzhou   Australia   20141202 0836
   2014   Export Security Scan      Hangzhou   Australia   20141202 1106

I wonder what will happen next to it? Cheers GrumpyOldMan

Stay in Hangzhou for another 24 hours. (It is going by air, isn't it ?)

What do I win ?
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 03 December 2014, 04:03:07 PM
A cloakroom ticket   :d

IanS
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 03 December 2014, 09:33:19 PM
Quote from: Techno on 03 December 2014, 03:26:07 PM
Stay in Hangzhou for another 24 hours. (It is going by air, isn't it ?)

What do I win ?
Cheers - Phil


Sorry, already gone past the 24 hour mark with no movement - no cigar (or cloakroom ticket)

Still going through a security scan (other site shows it as being opened). Yes, hopefully it is going through by air.

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: Techno on 04 December 2014, 06:36:02 AM
 :-\

I thought most countries did their real checking, on stuff that was coming in....Not stuff going out. (A misconception on my part ?)
Or is China different on that score ?
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 04 December 2014, 10:03:07 PM
Hello Techno

Quote from: Techno on 04 December 2014, 06:36:02 AM
I thought most countries did their real checking, on stuff that was coming in....Not stuff going out. (A misconception on my part ?)
Or is China different on that score ?
Cheers - Phil

I've looked it up and China does do this, so it's not unusual. Maybe with an electric motor and wires they want to check it out.

Moving through Indonesia and Malaysia, I've had officials carefully going through and listing all the objects I'm taking out of the country. I think it's more a case of making work for people rather than overly cautious security. It's not unusual for four people to handle and notate a docket for a simple purchase in Asia.

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: FierceKitty on 05 December 2014, 01:15:13 AM
Ever bought a train ticket or changed a traveller's cheque in India? You can live a long and happy life without that experience.
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: paulr on 05 December 2014, 07:18:15 AM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 05 December 2014, 01:15:13 AM
Ever bought a train ticket or changed a traveller's cheque in India? You can live a long and happy life without that experience.

Made the mistake once of using Traveller's cheques in the Philippines. 14 people and 45 minutes to cash them at a bank >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: Hertsblue on 05 December 2014, 09:32:31 AM
In Poland they just refused point blank. Apparently it costs an arm and a leg in bank charges. So much for Thos Cook then.
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 05 December 2014, 11:25:59 PM
Hi All

Next development!

It has moved from Hangzou to Beijing and been sent to airline.

"2014   Sent to airline   Beijing   Australia   20141205 0923"

Stay tuned for the next exciting instalment.

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: paulr on 05 December 2014, 11:29:51 PM
Quote from: GrumpyOldMan on 05 December 2014, 11:25:59 PM
Stay tuned for the next exciting instalment.
:-SS
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: FierceKitty on 06 December 2014, 05:20:09 AM
Thank God I don't live in China any more!
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: Techno on 06 December 2014, 07:35:30 AM
Quote from: GrumpyOldMan on 05 December 2014, 11:25:59 PM
Stay tuned for the next exciting instalment.
Cheers GrumpyOldMan

I think it's the theme tune from "Dick Barton' that I've got running through my mind !! ;)
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: Hertsblue on 06 December 2014, 11:13:08 AM
Devil's Galop(sic) by Charles Williams according to Wikipedia.
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: Techno on 06 December 2014, 05:24:10 PM
That's the kiddie, Ray. :)
Checked it on youtube.
Never knew it was called that !!
Cheers - Phil (Dumdidleumdidleumdiddleumdiddleumumumumumumdeediddleumdedaaaaah1......I think  ;) ;D ;D ;D)
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: toxicpixie on 06 December 2014, 06:14:06 PM
Argh, now I'll have that in my head all evening!
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: Hertsblue on 06 December 2014, 06:41:32 PM
It's funny, everyone knows the tune but how many have actually heard any of the episodes?
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: Techno on 06 December 2014, 09:36:30 PM
A handful......But ages ago.....Did he have an side-kick called Snowy ?...Or am I thinking of something else ? :-\
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 06 December 2014, 09:40:08 PM
Quote from: Hertsblue on 06 December 2014, 06:41:32 PM
...how many have actually heard any of the episodes?

The Shadow knows......

Just to confuse radio serials  :D

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan (Hi-Ho Whitemetal Away.....)
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 07 December 2014, 09:00:15 AM
It used to get a re-run every so often on 4Extra. Very stiff upper lip, more Edwardian than 40's.

IanS
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: Techno on 07 December 2014, 09:04:22 AM
Quote from: ianrs54 on 07 December 2014, 09:00:15 AM
It used to get a re-run every so often on 4Extra. IanS

That's where I've heard a couple of episodes relatively recently.  Thanks Ian !
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 11 December 2014, 10:28:13 PM
Hi All

As I was psyching myself up and girding my loins for a fair old stand up fight for my parcel, guess what chugged into my letter box. YES, the paddle wheeler.

Although it's listed as 1/150 I think it's closer to 1/120 or 1/100. Have to get some plans for the original to check. Still a useful and usable ship. Just have to decide now whether I'll build it with the paddle wheels or not. The other minor disappointment is that there's no incised detail on the superstructure, it relies on transfers for details.

Still on the whole happy with my purchase. Will have to write a note to myself no to buy any more ships, although the tall ship looks interesting.....and the wooden junk..... the container ship would make a good base..............

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: Maenoferren on 11 December 2014, 10:34:04 PM
good news that it arrived safe and sound :)
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: paulr on 12 December 2014, 03:12:44 AM
Good to hear it arrived safe and sound :)
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 12 December 2014, 07:05:20 AM
Phew it made it!
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 12 December 2014, 08:39:46 AM
Quote from: GrumpyOldMan on 11 December 2014, 10:28:13 PM
Still on the whole happy with my purchase. Will have to write a note to myself no to buy any more ships, although the tall ship looks interesting.....and the wooden junk..... the container ship would make a good base..............


No chance - wargamers not buying more toys....

IanS  ;) ;) :D :D
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: Techno on 12 December 2014, 08:43:22 AM
Pleased it's turned up, Grumps !.....Huzzah !
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: 1/150 Paddle Wheeler
Post by: Hertsblue on 12 December 2014, 08:59:48 AM
Always a massive relief when these things finally turn up. Future purchases will be a balancing act between desire to own and raised blood-pressure.  ;)