Here's our August releases! Mostly additions to the WWII US Marines this month, but there's also the Vietnam American figure (converted by Derek H) and a very useful Chevaux de Frise. We've put this last one in the Ottoman Turk range, but this item can be used all the way from Medievals through to the American Civil War. There were even some used in WWI!
And finally, we've some new additions to our Basing and Scenery Materials, which have been supplied to us by Realistic Modelling. They've got a wide range of terrain and scenery, plus a painting service, so check them out at: http://www.realisticmodelling.com/default.asp (http://www.realisticmodelling.com/default.asp)
Let us know your thoughts! 8)
USMC - http://www.pendraken.co.uk/World-War-II-c19/US-Marines-sc204/ (http://www.pendraken.co.uk/World-War-II-c19/US-Marines-sc204/)
MC4 NCO firing Thompson, jacket tucked in (10) £1.10
MC5 Wading ashore (10) £1.10
MC6 Officer, pointing, carbine, gaiters (10) £1.10
MC7 BAR gunner, prone (10) £1.10
MC8 60mm mortar with crew (3) £1.10
MC9 82mm mortar with crew (3) £1.10
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4091/4846910866_87d0970620.jpg)
MC10 Team leader/spotter, handi-talki, carbine (10) £1.10
MC11 Senior officer, utility cap, holding handset (10) £1.10
MC12 RTO & SC300 radio (10) £1.10
MC13 Sniper, prone, scrim, Springfield M1903 rifle (10) £1.10
MC14 Casualty (10) £1.10
MC15 105mm field gun with crew (1) £1.10
MC16 75mm pack Howitzer with crew (2) £1.10
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4106/4846292795_dc4ca1447b.jpg)
Ottoman Turk - http://www.pendraken.co.uk/OT19-p5520/ (http://www.pendraken.co.uk/OT19-p5520/)
OT19 Chevaux de frise (3) £1.10
Vietnam American - http://www.pendraken.co.uk/V8-p5521/ (http://www.pendraken.co.uk/V8-p5521/)
V8 Infantry, standing, helmet, M60 (10) £1.10
Textures - http://www.pendraken.co.uk/Bases-Glue-Sands-c25/Textures-sc207/ (http://www.pendraken.co.uk/Bases-Glue-Sands-c25/Textures-sc207/)
PNTX1 Fine texture, summer green, 25g £2.10
Static Grass - http://www.pendraken.co.uk/Bases-Glue-Sands-c25/Static-Grass-sc208/ (http://www.pendraken.co.uk/Bases-Glue-Sands-c25/Static-Grass-sc208/)
PNSG1 1-2mm, grassland green, 25g £2.30
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4091/4846912274_78394784d5.jpg)
Really nice USMC stuff 8). I was looking at the BKC list for these and with the lovely new figures I think they will be going on my Xmas list.
These look lovely ;D
But one small gripe is that why packs of 10 single figures of the same pose? I just cant see myself needing 10 snipers. Would it make more sense to offer command packs of 5 figures - Officer, radio op, NCO firing thompson, team leader and a rifleman.
Those MArines are great - the Pacific theatre is looking more and more tempting! Damn you Pendraken! :D
Yep - my resistance to the Pacific is evaporating rapidly...Good to see static grass as well 8)
Shouldn't it be BAR gunner though?
Quote from: nikharwood on 01 August 2010, 08:29:12 AMShouldn't it be BAR gunner though?
I bet Leon was watching the Golf at the time :)
You should mention the chevaux de friese under Poles, too. They used them a lot, didn't they?
I'm glad I'm not the only on being tempted by the USMC range :). Nik, KD, looks like the Pacific could be a subject for next years Colours table ;).
Could be, could be 8)
Quote from: Nosher on 01 August 2010, 07:47:48 AM
These look lovely ;D
But one small gripe is that why packs of 10 single figures of the same pose? I just cant see myself needing 10 snipers. Would it make more sense to offer command packs of 5 figures - Officer, radio op, NCO firing thompson, team leader and a rifleman.
Possibly something we could look at? It's only a £ though, and you might need spares!
Quote from: nikharwood on 01 August 2010, 08:29:12 AM
Shouldn't it be BAR gunner though?
Yep, I'm putting the blame on the designer for that one, it was 3am and I was just copying from his list!
Quote from: FierceKitty on 01 August 2010, 10:09:27 AM
You should mention the chevaux de friese under Poles, too. They used them a lot, didn't they?
I'll be looking at duplicating this code for all the different ranges it's useful for. Or alternatively, I'm going to create a useful items section.
just an opinion: I do not like too much duplicate references. I would prefre a section of items or accesories
"Those MArines are great" ...
.... but I know some others ;D
Quote from: FierceKitty on 01 August 2010, 10:09:27 AM
You should mention the chevaux de friese under Poles, too. They used them a lot, didn't they?
Used in the American Civil War for that matter. I like the idea of the "really useful codes" section.
Thank you for the standing M60 guy. I just bought a pack along with some other items to flesh out some nice forces for Vietnam.
I agree that 10 of one type of pose in a pack is too much for me. Looking at a lot of orbats where most WW2 armies only had 1 SMG and 1 LMG per squad you'd be looking at a fairly large force to be able to use all 10 of your figures - full company size at least which is a lot of rifleman to go with it to balance it out!!! For me it's not so much the cost that puts me off - I just don't like having a lot of unused figures about!!!
To be honest the way some ranges (not just Pendraken) are packaged/sold has put me off starting some periods.
Just my two penneth...
I really cannot believe people are being put off because a few figures would be leftover from a pack 10 that costs just £1.10 :o
It's not like the 15mm Old Glory stuff in packs on 50 is it?
If you actually look at the organisation of a USMC Battalion the D type first used had 4 SMG's and upto 6 BAR's per platoon. The F type in use from June 44 replaced the SMG's with carbines (now 14 per platoon) and the number of BAR's increased to 9 so there would be very few unused figures anyway.
Sources Bayonetstrength and GHQ websites.
Sorry to cause such outrage - just don't like unused/never to be used stuff lying about - and it's not really worth eBaying a few 10mm figs is it - noone's going to want extras - there was too many in the pack to begin with :D
Fair point about USMC organsation, which was I'm sure you'll agree very unique to WW2 orgs and specific to the circumstances of the combat they were in. I was making a more general point as to WW2 platoon organisation and responding to the original question which was people's views on the pack structure.
Quote from: Leon on 01 August 2010, 02:19:46 PM
(...) Or alternatively, I'm going to create a useful items section.
I agree (with pictures of these items, because sometimes it's difficult to understand what's behind the name, as we're not fluency reading/writing english) ;)
A pack is only a quid and a bit
and this puts you off starting a new period coz you have to buy a whole pack of snipers
tight wad.
Jim
With a little bit of imagination you should be able to use duplicate figures in a number of different armies. US Army in the ETO of course, French Indo China, Korea, Vietnam, the sniper could probably be used in any number of armies from the 1940's on. If that doesn't help well you should probably stick to 28mm or any scale where you can buy single figures :P
This is a good point - I've got a *great* 10mm bits box full of useful goodies which get used across all kinds of armies. There's a German NCO with MP40 in my US Gulf War battlegroup, for example, lurking on a command stand as I was a 'proper' figure short...see if you can spot him here: http://nikharwood.pbworks.com/CWC+US+GW+battlegroup
Tell you what - in a gesture of supreme self-sacrifice, if anyone's got spares going to waste, send them to me & I'll 'adopt' them for you. ;D
My favourite 'generic' figure (so far) is the NVA in bush hat with AK (VC2) - I've got him in these armies (so far):
- VC
- NVA
- Balkans Serbs
- Soviet (Afghanistan)
Good point. One of the beauties of this scale is that on stands of 3-4 figures, the odd slightly out of period figure, so long as he looks about right, works well.
Nik, no I can't spot him. But I do spot your superb collection of figures that has led to me dribbling all over my keyboard. I'm going to get one of the bibs we've bought for bambino and wear that from now on when ever looking at your site. :o
Perhaps you need a warning on your home page "...drooling is bad for your keyboard" :-*
Sean
Think I've spotted him.
1st of the HQ M113 Dragon pictures the figure front right is a GR2 I believe.
Do I get a prize. ;)
Quote from: salagam on 10 August 2010, 11:15:04 AM
Nik, no I can't spot him. But I do spot your superb collection of figures that has led to me dribbling all over my keyboard. I'm going to get one of the bibs we've bought for bambino and wear that from now on when ever looking at your site. :o
Perhaps you need a warning on your home page "...drooling is bad for your keyboard" :-*
;D
QuoteThink I've spotted him.
1st of the HQ M113 Dragon pictures the figure front right is a GR2 I believe.
Do I get a prize
Yep - I'll send you one for your next modern US project - it
is called the Fritz helmet after all :P
Nik,
Thanks for the offer but I have a few leftover from a pack already.
Might have to buy some modern US figures to go with them.
That's the sign of a true wargamer: I've got a few figures left over - so I'll build an entirely new army around them 8)
Quote from: Nosher on 01 August 2010, 07:47:48 AM
These look lovely ;D
But one small gripe is that why packs of 10 single figures of the same pose? I just cant see myself needing 10 snipers. Would it make more sense to offer command packs of 5 figures - Officer, radio op, NCO firing thompson, team leader and a rifleman.
'Tight wad' is something I'm quite proud of being a Yorkshireman ;)
In fact copper wire was invented by my grandfather when he was fighting over a tuppeny bit with the next door neighbour. there's also legend in my family that my dad is so astute at hearing coins dropping to the floor that he frequently gets hit on the back of the neck with five pence pieces ;D
I still stand by my original quote though - although its only a £ a pack, and I might one day have use for 9 spare snipers, I still think it makes sense to have command packs of 5 command style figures duplicated twice in pack. This does seem to be a change in the way PD packs are made up most likely because of new releases.
Thinking ahead to the next arguement on this topic - no I wouldn't buy five packs of five seperate figure codes to make up 5 different command stands. I dont often ever have need for so many command units.
Poster - Sits back, pulls on 'tin-pisser' and waits for the incoming :o
Nosher - I'm with you mate - why pay out for more than you need or want - that's not tight it's just sense.
Fair point made that you can use some duplicates to add some variety in existing forces (if done carefully of course).
Nosher,
Fair point about the packs previously having 2 poses.
Having said that are there any alternatives which would be more cost effective and less wasteful of figures?
This is one of those things where you cannot please everybody, in 15mm there are several manufacturers offering Platoon packs great if you are doing 1:1 but not ideal for BKC/BFWWII/CD or similar (I have seen people moan about this on other fora). In 10mm the various different manufacturers all seem to offer different size/style packs. For me Pendraken offer best value as 1 they offer smaller packs and 2 their cost per figure is the lowest out there. To me I don't mind having a handful of figures left over if it was going to cost more to go elsewhere to get the exact amount required. Pay less get more makes sense to me. In the end though you pays your money you make your choice.
Nigel
SYW French in turnbacks didnt make it :(
And they could be used for so many stuff : French later infantry, foreign infantry on French pay, Gardes Francais, various volontaires "klaine krieg" units,
dismounted dragoons, Compaignes Francais de la Marine.....aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa =)
Its part of the joy of using Pendraken figs, you've always got some spare left over, so you have to buy just a few more packs to flesh these out to full units. I've never, ever, had a Pendraken army where theres not been just a few left-overs, that I immediatly think about getting just a few more and I'll have that as a finished unit. Ooops tell a lie, my 8th Army has NO left-overs, I fitted them all in. :D :D :D
Gordon
Quote from: Zbigniew on 06 September 2010, 06:04:01 PM
SYW French in turnbacks didnt make it :(
And they could be used for so many stuff : French later infantry, foreign infantry on French pay, Gardes Francais, various volontaires "klaine krieg" units,
dismounted dragoons, Compaignes Francais de la Marine.....aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa =)
They are pencilled in, we're gonna try and do an 'Odds and Ends' sculpting month in November. Which poses would you prefer? And don't say all of them!
Quote from: Leon on 07 September 2010, 12:25:53 AM
Which poses would you prefer? And don't say all of them!
With the seven years war figures, that is quite an interesting question. My personal opinion is that the firing pose best displays the small clothes, which helps distinguish some regiments; but I would value the opinions of others.
November! Wow! :)
I think one "active" pose and one "pasive" should make a trick.
My vote is for marching and firing pose.
What others think?
Quote from: Zbigniew on 07 September 2010, 07:40:46 AM
November! Wow! :)
They would be sculpted in November, so by the time we got them moulded, they would be ready for the January releases hopefully.
Quote from: Leon on 07 September 2010, 12:25:53 AM
Which poses would you prefer? And don't say all of them!
What I would really like to see are people (french with turnbacks would be fine) carrying their muskets like this;
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0f/Hohenfriedeberg.Attack.of.Prussian.Infantry.1745.jpg)
It's not just a Prussian thing; from the number of images I have seen of men holding their musket that way (some near-period) I think it was a very common carry.
Quote from: Leon on 07 September 2010, 02:21:23 PM
They would be sculpted in November, so by the time we got them moulded, they would be ready for the January releases hopefully.
I see. Still great news for me! :)
In order to match my existing figures, I'd love to see the SYW French w. turnbacks in your march attack pose.
Cheers
Paul
For my money, the most important thing about SYW regulars, possibly excluding hussars, is uniformity of pose.
Greetings
For SYW French in turnbacks I'd go for march attack I think.
Sounds like a French SYW army order for January then.
Regards
Edward
I would welcome every pose for French in turnbacks. However I would like to notice a major drawback of releasing only one pose if it would be March attack or port fire. these two poses are less flexible than the three other, because they are rather only for regular units/formations.
You probably would have a problem in making dismounted dragoons or any French legeres out of them. They are simply not designed for open order formations.
I would welcome march attack pose but please add at least one from marching, firing or advancing, too.
Some of my thoughts... :)
Quote from: Zbigniew on 25 October 2010, 09:59:55 AM
I would welcome every pose for French in turnbacks. However I would like to notice a major drawback of releasing only one pose if it would be March attack or port fire. these two poses are less flexible than the three other, because they are rather only for regular units/formations.
You probably would have a problem in making dismounted dragoons or any French legeres out of them. They are simply not designed for open order formations.
I would welcome march attack pose but please add at least one from marching, firing or advancing, too.
Some of my thoughts... :)
We've asked the designer to do two poses, march attack and advancing.
Quote from: Leon on 25 October 2010, 01:06:34 PM
We've asked the designer to do two poses, march attack and advancing.
Great news!
Greetings
Looking forward to the French in turnbacks. Now to check my lists to see how many of the planned battalions may be in turnbacks ...
Regards
Edward