Hollywood does The Beast?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OGvZoIrXpg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OGvZoIrXpg)
Hmmmm ... that actually looks quite good. :-\
Does look good, might have to catch it when it appears on Sky in a couple of years... (I almost never go to the cinema!)
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Not since the unfortunate popcorn incident?
I agree Leon; i go with the wife maybe once a year for 'major' releases so we splash out on a gallery at the Metro Centre.
Last trip was the 2nd Hobbit movie. Next will be the 3rd Hobbit movie.
Back pain, and a basic intolerance of other people making noise and mucking about on their phones makes cinema-going and immense displeasure for me.
I'm in the local Cineworld pretty much every week, sometimes twice a week.
Best (or worst!) use of the Unlimited Card was watching three films in one day - film, film, Pizza Hut buffet, film :) Cheap and entertaining day out.
Quote from: Luddite on 27 September 2014, 09:09:06 PM
... basic intolerance of other people making noise and mucking about on their phones ...
Same for me, other people chattering or rustling sweet wrappers drives me mad. The problem is that half the time it's the missus making the noise! We don't watch many films together at home either... :D
Mucking about on phone or sweet wrappers etc ... "what did he say" >:( >:( >:( >:(
Quote from: Luddite on 27 September 2014, 09:09:06 PM
... a basic intolerance of other people making noise and mucking about on their phones
As a frequent cinema goer I'd have to say that this rarely happens, in my experience, and that besides if I am wrapped up in a film (or a book) World War 3 could break out and I'd barely notice.
Having been brought up in a family that regularly did the same, even my regular cinema-going companion's insistence on asking "Who's that?" about a character who's only just appeared or "Why are they doing that?" about an event who's significance is clearly going to be revealed later in the film doesn't faze me.
At last! A film not made for children!?
It looks far too 'Hollywood' for me, compared to 'Band of Brothers' :(. I dare say I will watch it when it comes out on DVD or the telly... :-\
More Kelly's Heroes than Band of Brothers I imagine but hey, it stars a Sherman M4A2 76mm HVSS and features Tiger 131 from Bovington - what's not to like :)
Quote from: Steve J on 28 September 2014, 06:42:05 AM
It looks far too 'Hollywood' for me, compared to 'Band of Brothers'
... :o "Band of Brothers" ... not Hollywood? Must be a different BoB than the pap I watched.
Well, the 'BoB' series was based upon the book and followed it pretty closely IIRC, so at least it was historical in that sense. And I enjoyed it as the production values were superb. But each to their own.
That looks...interesting in a Hollywood W W II fashion.
If memory serves, Meridian News reported that a English WW II veteran tankie from the times had been engaged by the films production people to ensure realism. The veteran, bless him, had never heard of Brad Pitt.
as the thing was shot in Hertfordshire I'm surprised I've never heard of it before. Mind you, it was the other side of the county. I too will probably wait until it's available on DVD, since my other half won't even consider going to a war film.
Boys night out to see Fury last night, wifeys didn't want to come.
And the verdict was....
Some bits good, some bad and some terrible.
Good:
Historical hardware, lots of WW2 American and German stuff used, not just the tanks but smaller stuff including panzerfausts MG42s and those late war German Assault rifles (which I can't remember the name of). The tanks steal the show, especially the late war sherman the Fury of the title, the Tiger when it shows up is awesome but it isn't arround for long. The use of hardware is also pretty good, there are a couple of scenes of shermans simply disintegrating when hit by an AT round that are quite shocking and bring home the statistic of what 5 shermns to 1 tiger realy meant for the allied tank crews.
The scenes set inside the tank are also very good, there is a real sence of claustrophobia and tension when they're in combat with all the hatches closed. I don't know if it was filmed inside a real tank or in a very good set but it's never possible to see all or even most of the crew at one time. It's also impossible to see all of one person at any time, there is always bits of the tank intruding into the shot.
Bad:
There are a lot of stereo types, old tired soldier, young rookie having to learn and earn the acceptance of the rest of the crew. Pretty German girl (rooky's love ingterest) who dies tragically.
Terrible:
The storyline, it's utterly implausable and the ineptitude of a whole SS battalion who aren't capable of taking out a single imobilised sherman without suffering about 50% casualties.
Overall:
It's easy to pick faults with anything like this but I enjoyed Fury and think its a good film, 3,5 starts out of 5 but like so many films it could have been much better if the story line had just been a bit more believable. Overall I would definately recomend a trip to the cinema to see it, you just won't get the full atmosphere of the internal tank shots on a TV screen.
Terrible:
The storyline, it's utterly implausable and the ineptitude of a whole SS battalion who aren't capable of taking out a single imobilised sherman without suffering about 50% casualties.
That's just lifted straight out of Audie Murphy's medal citation, isn't it?!
Sounds like your typical Hollywood WW2 story line ;)
Quote from: toxicpixie on 24 October 2014, 11:30:04 AM
Terrible:
The storyline, it's utterly implausable and the ineptitude of a whole SS battalion who aren't capable of taking out a single imobilised sherman without suffering about 50% casualties.
That's just lifted straight out of Audie Murphy's medal citation, isn't it?!
He was in 15th Infantry not 2nd Armoured and used a wrecked and burning tank destroyer not a Sherman and he was on his own and facing both infantry and armour. So basically Hollywood toned it down rather than hamming it up.
Audie Murphy's Medal of Honor Citation (http://www.knox.army.mil/associated/samc/moh.aspx)
:o 8) :'( ;D
Fury also reminded me a little of "Force Zvika" in the Valley of Tears.
Zvika Greengold and "Force Zvika" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zvika_Greengold)
A man who used up tanks the way Ney used up horses :)
When even your own side think you're a tank company rather than a one man army you deserve to be thought of as a "national hero!"
QuoteAudie Murphy's Medal of Honor Citation
Blimey, I stand corrected! Murphy was better than Brad Pitt, he walked away while Brad died a hero.
Umm ... I'm going to see "Fury" next week ... and that was a spoiler! >:(
Philly Cheese - FSN
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Thanks Dan! ;D
Quote from: fsn on 24 October 2014, 03:54:21 PM
Umm ... I'm going to see "Fury" next week ... and that was a spoiler! >:(
Philly Cheese - FSN
fsn if that's a spoiler then a) you need to see more war movies and b) so many of those stereotypes DanJ wrote about are going to be real revelations to you :D
Sorry but I thought Hollywood didn't include mud, leading men with scars and so on. If I want a documentary I'll watch a documentary; if I want blood, guts and some splattered Nazis give me Hollywood any day of the week. This looks great! (ex-History teacher :d :d)
Quote from: Ithoriel on 24 October 2014, 04:43:09 PM
fsn if that's a spoiler then a) you need to see more war movies and b) so many of those stereotypes DanJ wrote about are going to be real revelations to you :D
Ummm, that's a spoiler, and a bit of a biggie, by any unit of measurement.
Thinking about what may or may not happen in a film is one thing, being told before-hand is something else entirely.
Hint: I bet none of the 'professional' reviewers mention this.
Cheers, Martyn
Quote from: Raider4 on 25 October 2014, 04:43:48 PM
Ummm, that's a spoiler, and a bit of a biggie, by any unit of measurement.
Thinking about what may or may not happen in a film is one thing, being told before-hand is something else entirely.
Hint: I bet none of the 'professional' reviewers mention this.
Cheers, Martyn
I agree, The spoiler was a big dissapointment
Orcs
Yeah I'm pretty miffed about this too.
Damn. >:(
Got rung up by a friend of mine out of the blue to go and see this today.....even got to go to the high end cinema to see it for nix since JT insisted on paying 8)
OK like any movie it has its good and bad points but overall I would rate it 4/5....I found it engaging, visually stunning (the CGI effects of tracer rounds and AP hits/deflections are amazing) and OK the final battle is very much against the odds but one has to remember that its April 1945 - the German Army was certainly not what it had been even a couple of years previously.
Frankly the ending is a lot more gritty and down to earth than I thought they might have made it.
Well worth seeing if you have an interest in the period but remember in the end that its a hollywood movie ;)
Ooopps, sorry for the spoiler, I'm definately not a professional reviewer of films :-[
Left it out of the original post but when someone posted the Audie Murphy link it slipped out.
However given that it is a Hollywood film and originallity is not their strong suit I wasn't in the least bit supprised, it seems to be common for the old experienced sergeant/officer to die at the end of the film.
The storyline is the worst aspect of the film but then that's nothing new.
Well lighted brands and pitchfork time for Danj... 8)