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Wider Wargaming => Resources => Resources - Ancients to Renaissance (3000BC - 1680) => Topic started by: Druzhina on 09 September 2014, 09:57:44 AM

Title: French Gensdarmes & Aventuriers & Swiss Pikemen
Post by: Druzhina on 09 September 2014, 09:57:44 AM
'French Crusaders at Damietta' in le Noir's 1518 edition of Les Passaiges doultremer faitz par les Francoys by Sébastien Mamerot (http://warfare2.netai.net/Renaissance/Passaiges-Mamerot-Le_Noir-1518-frontis.htm)
French Gensdarmes & Aventuriers & Swiss Pikemen at Damietta, Breydenbach's Peregrinationes in Terram Sanctam, 1522 (http://warfare.meximas.com/15/Breydenbach-52_Crusaders_at_Damietta_1522.htm). This is useful as it has labels to identify the troops, particularly the Aventuriers.

MIRROR SITES
'French Crusaders at Damietta' in le Noir's 1518 edition of Les Passaiges doultremer faitz par les Francoys by Sébastien Mamerot (http://warfare.likamva.in/Renaissance/Passaiges-Mamerot-Le_Noir-1518-frontis.htm)
French Gensdarmes & Aventuriers & Swiss Pikemen at Damietta, Breydenbach's Peregrinationes in Terram Sanctam, 1522 (http://warfare2.likamva.in/15/Breydenbach-52_Crusaders_at_Damietta_1522.htm)

Druzhina
16th Century Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers (http://warfare2.netai.net/16C.htm)
Title: Re: French Gensdarmes & Aventuriers & Swiss Pikemen
Post by: Leman on 09 September 2014, 11:28:38 AM
Now that is what I expect Italian Wars troops to look like. Even at that date, not a beard in sight amongst the French or Swiss.
Title: Re: French Gensdarmes & Aventuriers & Swiss Pikemen
Post by: Ithoriel on 09 September 2014, 11:58:31 AM
Quote from: Dour Puritan on 09 September 2014, 11:28:38 AM
Now that is what I expect Italian Wars troops to look like. Even at that date, not a beard in sight amongst the French or Swiss.

Err ... maybe my eyesight isn't what it once was but ...

It looks to me like the Swiss drummer has a beard, the guy behind him to the right has a beard and the halberdier with the feather in his hat (to the left of the drummer) has a beard.

You can only see the chins of two other Swiss, so 60% of the Swiss have beards.

But then the Swiss have seemed like a pretty "beardy" army in most of the Renaissance rulesets I've played  ;D
Title: Re: French Gensdarmes & Aventuriers & Swiss Pikemen
Post by: Steve J on 09 September 2014, 06:14:05 PM
Plenty of beards to be seen.
Title: Re: French Gensdarmes & Aventuriers & Swiss Pikemen
Post by: Leman on 09 September 2014, 08:01:17 PM
Some t**t was flying a saltire in his garden today. Considering this is deep in England that was rather a two fingered salute. Should Scotland vote for independence I shall insist this foreigner buggers off and stops taking an English job if he's obviously so bloody keen to be Scots. Should Scotland stay then he's obviously a Britain proud of the part of our country he hails from. Can't have it both ways.
Title: Re: French Gensdarmes & Aventuriers & Swiss Pikemen
Post by: mollinary on 09 September 2014, 08:22:01 PM
DP,

Curiously, according to Radio 4, it seems that  the glorious leaders of "our" political parties have encouraged people in the rest of the UK who support union, to fly the saltire. Counter intuitive, or what? :o :o :o

Mollinary
Title: Re: French Gensdarmes & Aventuriers & Swiss Pikemen
Post by: Ithoriel on 09 September 2014, 10:48:00 PM
Why shouldn't he want an independent Scotland to retire to once he's grown weary of keeping your economy afloat?

If the Saltire is good enough to fly over Downing Street I'm sure it's good enough to fly in that chap's garden.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/scottish-independence/11084414/Saltire-flies-above-Downing-Street.html