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Wider Wargaming => Rules => Topic started by: Last Hussar on 06 September 2014, 10:04:57 AM

Title: The dangers of to many rule sets.
Post by: Last Hussar on 06 September 2014, 10:04:57 AM
Sunjester and Just a Few Orcs played a game of Warmaster for the first time in ages last night.

Orcs was trying to use DBM
Sunjester was trying to use BKC...




(Title should say 'Too')
Title: Re: The dangers of to many rule sets.
Post by: Leman on 06 September 2014, 10:18:46 AM
Happens all too often in my world. The answer is not to try and remember too much but to frequently refer to the playsheet.
Title: Re: The dangers of to many rule sets.
Post by: Fenton on 06 September 2014, 10:23:33 AM
Which Warmaster?. Ancients or Fantasy?
Title: Re: The dangers of to many rule sets.
Post by: Leman on 06 September 2014, 10:28:14 AM
I expect Sunjester was in the better position as BKC is based on Warmaster.
Title: Re: The dangers of to many rule sets.
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 06 September 2014, 10:38:19 AM
Hail Cearser, Pike and Shote and Black powder drive me crazy...the annoying little differences. Then I go plays BKC, or CWC same again

IanS  :D
Title: Re: The dangers of to many rule sets.
Post by: Hertsblue on 06 September 2014, 10:46:08 AM
It's even worse when you've written the darn things yourself and you have to say "I can't remember, I'll just look it up."  :( :( :(
Title: Re: The dangers of to many rule sets.
Post by: Leman on 06 September 2014, 10:48:06 AM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D - The wargames club for the terminally bewildered.
Title: Re: The dangers of to many rule sets.
Post by: Hertsblue on 06 September 2014, 10:53:42 AM
Well, the older I get the more unpredictable my memory becomes.  :-$ 8-} :-<
Title: Re: The dangers of to many rule sets.
Post by: Steve J on 06 September 2014, 11:42:07 AM
That's why I've downsized to a few core rulesets, so I enjoy playing the game rather than checking for rules all the time.
Title: Re: The dangers of to many rule sets.
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 06 September 2014, 12:38:00 PM
 ;D brilliant!
Title: Re: The dangers of to many rule sets.
Post by: Last Hussar on 06 September 2014, 12:39:14 PM
Ancients.

First few games of Black Powder we kept trying to use multiples of 20cm, rather than 12 inches.
Title: Re: The dangers of to many rule sets.
Post by: Fenton on 06 September 2014, 02:42:39 PM
Maybe we should go back to the universal ruleset of rolling marbles and firing matchsticks at our figures
Title: Re: The dangers of to many rule sets.
Post by: FierceKitty on 06 September 2014, 02:51:58 PM
Quote from: Hertsblue on 06 September 2014, 10:46:08 AM
It's even worse when you've written the darn things yourself and you have to say "I can't remember, I'll just look it up."  :( :( :(
You have been stalking me, haven't you? Bugging my gaming room?
Title: Re: The dangers of to many rule sets.
Post by: Steve J on 06 September 2014, 02:57:01 PM
QuoteMaybe we should go back to the universal ruleset of rolling marbles and firing matchsticks at our figures

Now there's an idea for a demo game at a show. I'm sure it would attract lots of participants :D.
Title: Re: The dangers of to many rule sets.
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 06 September 2014, 03:11:52 PM
Quote from: Hertsblue on 06 September 2014, 10:46:08 AM
It's even worse when you've written the darn things yourself and you have to say "I can't remember, I'll just look it up."  :( :( :(

dont i just agree....

IanS
Title: Re: The dangers of to many rule sets.
Post by: Ithoriel on 06 September 2014, 03:28:32 PM
Quote from: Fenton on 06 September 2014, 02:42:39 PM
Maybe we should go back to the universal ruleset of rolling marbles and firing matchsticks at our figures

No firing of matchsticks - Aly reckons modern figures are too heavy, paint jobs too fragile and match firing cannon way too expensive.

However, from Partizan, I give you "Little Wars" 2014 style

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-PLovMTcbt6U/UiNJGI8_CWI/AAAAAAAAPVE/AXtv9A3BHEo/s1600/IMG_6252.JPG)
Title: Re: The dangers of to many rule sets.
Post by: Leman on 06 September 2014, 03:41:46 PM
Brilliant!
Title: Re: The dangers of to many rule sets.
Post by: Steve J on 06 September 2014, 05:28:56 PM
Excellent 8)!
Title: Re: The dangers of to many rule sets.
Post by: Maenoferren on 06 September 2014, 08:12:38 PM
Quote from: Fenton on 06 September 2014, 02:42:39 PM
Maybe we should go back to the universal ruleset of rolling marbles and firing matchsticks at our figures
that is why I started using rules...my mate was a better shot
Title: Re: The dangers of to many rule sets.
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 07 September 2014, 12:56:53 AM
Quote from: Hertsblue on 06 September 2014, 10:53:42 AM
Well, the older I get the more unpredictable my memory becomes.  :-$ 8-} :-<

I know I was going to totally agree with you but I can't remember what we were talking about!! Something about the rules for striking matches off wargame figures I think.......
Title: Re: The dangers of to many rule sets.
Post by: Hertsblue on 07 September 2014, 10:04:35 AM
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The dangers of to many rule sets.
Post by: Last Hussar on 07 September 2014, 10:16:38 AM
Do you play the original LW - very predictable - 1 infantry kills 1 infantry on combat- cavalry 1 kills 2 infantry etc.  Made it a bit boring  12 v 10 means 1 side wiped out, the other with 2 left.
Title: Re: The dangers of to many rule sets.
Post by: Luddite on 07 September 2014, 10:21:31 AM
Quote from: Last Hussar on 07 September 2014, 10:16:38 AM
Do you play the original LW - very predictable - 1 infantry kills 1 infantry on combat- cavalry 1 kills 2 infantry etc.  Made it a bit boring  12 v 10 means 1 side wiped out, the other with 2 left.

Arguably more realistic than 'one side routed/destroyed; the other side survives intact'...

Most historical formations had one decent stand-up fight in them - especially cavalry.   :)
Title: Re: The dangers of to many rule sets.
Post by: Orcs on 08 September 2014, 10:55:27 AM
Quote from: Last Hussar on 06 September 2014, 10:04:57 AM
Sunjester and Just a Few Orcs played a game of Warmaster for the first time in ages last night.

Orcs was trying to use DBM
Sunjester was trying to use BKC...
(Title should say 'Too')

In our joint defense - we did remember to use D6's.  Anyway whats wrong with the DBAmaster !!! :)
Title: Re: The dangers of to many rule sets.
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 15 June 2018, 09:31:43 PM
Quote from: Last Hussar on 07 September 2014, 10:16:38 AM
Do you play the original LW - very predictable - 1 infantry kills 1 infantry on combat- cavalry 1 kills 2 infantry etc.  Made it a bit boring  12 v 10 means 1 side wiped out, the other with 2 left.

To be fair to Wells, that's also happened in my last few games of SAGA.
Title: Re: The dangers of to many rule sets.
Post by: Dr Dave on 15 June 2018, 10:02:36 PM
Quote from: ianrs54 on 06 September 2014, 10:38:19 AM
Hail Cearser, Pike and Shote and Black powder drive me crazy...the annoying little differences. Then I go plays BKC, or CWC same again

IanS  :D

We get this every time! Thankfully, we have a rules mentat who knows them all - even the bkc and cwc close assault rules.   :D
Title: Re: The dangers of to many rule sets.
Post by: toxicpixie on 28 June 2018, 11:52:52 PM
This is partly why I prefer to accept the lumpy bits in rules and play "as written" as much as possible instead of house ruling and tweaking and amending. Hard enough to remember what's in the book let alone dubious changes we've Introduced :D