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Wider Wargaming => Genre/Period Discussion => Ancients to Renaissance (3000BC - 1680) => Topic started by: Last Hussar on 25 August 2014, 11:42:44 AM

Title: Aesthetic pike breastplate numbers for ECW
Post by: Last Hussar on 25 August 2014, 11:42:44 AM
My bases are 16 10mm figures on a 30mm square base.  The plan is to paint 2 Pike stands per game unit (with 4 musket bases of 9-12 men)  I reckon this will give me the most flexibility to represent both sides for the whole war - I will be painting about 55% in red coats, the rest a lot of blue with some other colours.  One of each pair of stands has the 'command figures' (Officer, drummer, Standard)

How how many breastplates should I do for the pike units.  I know they fell out of favour as the war went on - they are going to be aesthetic only, as they don't make any difference in the 2 sets of rules I have (Pike and Shotte and Regiment of Foote).

It doesn't have to be a precise number - Some stands could have none, others the upper end of the range.

So you have some idea what the finished stands look like

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lasthussar/sets/72157621671630377/ (https://www.flickr.com/photos/lasthussar/sets/72157621671630377/)
Title: Re: Aesthetic pike breastplate numbers for ECW
Post by: Ace of Spades on 25 August 2014, 12:20:23 PM
I would say about 25-50% should do. The average regiment would then have the front row armoured with wealthier (or more old-fashioned) regiments having two lines armoured with the 'poorer' regiment having none or just a few men in armour in the front ranks. I guess that would be a fair reresentation of the historical looks...?

Cheers,
Rob
Title: Re: Aesthetic pike breastplate numbers for ECW
Post by: Hertsblue on 25 August 2014, 02:33:56 PM
Don't think I'd go higher than 25% in the Royalist force, LH. Armour was expensive and the King was always short of money. Might go a bit higher with the Parliamentarians - they had access to the Tower and various arsenals - but I'm willing to bet those heavy, cumbersome breastplates got ditched as the campaign wore on.
Title: Re: Aesthetic pike breastplate numbers for ECW
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 25 August 2014, 04:47:50 PM
I did front row only on my units in 28mm
Title: Re: Aesthetic pike breastplate numbers for ECW
Post by: Sandinista on 25 August 2014, 05:44:49 PM
Put the unarmoured and armoured figures in a bag and randomly pull out enough for each unit, that should give you an interesting mix
Title: Re: Aesthetic pike breastplate numbers for ECW
Post by: Leman on 25 August 2014, 06:07:35 PM
Yep, that just the way my Lord of Essex did it!  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Aesthetic pike breastplate numbers for ECW
Post by: Last Hussar on 26 August 2014, 08:46:17 PM
Further question

I'm guessing not too uniform- I'm doing coats all the same colour, and most of the trousers in a unit- a little variation I think!

The Buff leather over jacket thing- should I paint some of the chaps in them?
Title: Re: Aesthetic pike breastplate numbers for ECW
Post by: Leman on 26 August 2014, 09:54:57 PM
Leather coats - some of London Trained bands wore them.

Coat colours - not too uniform. Throw in a few civilian coats to make a unit look more authentic.