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Title: Late Roman Clibinarii with bow and kontos
Post by: Jagger on 27 July 2010, 12:40:53 AM
Leon, any chance I can see photos of the Late Roman Clibinarii with bow and kontos?  Thanks!
Title: Re: Late Roman Clibinarii with bow and kontos
Post by: Leon on 27 July 2010, 07:53:47 PM
These ones are on the Flickr:

ARL21:
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2730/4286093002_bcb14c6186.jpg)

ARL22:
(http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4013/4285353731_df6a52f940.jpg)
Title: Re: Late Roman Clibinarii with bow and kontos
Post by: Jagger on 27 July 2010, 11:10:09 PM
Thanks!
Title: Re: Late Roman Clibinarii with bow and kontos
Post by: FierceKitty on 28 July 2010, 05:46:12 AM
Love the overarm thrust pose. How about a Japanese in that position too? It's illustrated often enough.
Title: Re: Late Roman Clibinarii with bow and kontos
Post by: Phobos on 24 March 2012, 03:28:31 PM
Definetely, Im going to purchase them :D
Title: Re: Late Roman Clibinarii with bow and kontos
Post by: fred. on 24 March 2012, 04:12:28 PM
These are very nice figures (along with the rest of the late Romans)

What can't be seen in the photos is that the rider's bodies are separate from the horse (which has the riders legs cast on), this allows you to position the riders slightly differently to give a bit more variety in the units, with the minimum of assembly.
Title: Re: Late Roman Clibinarii with bow and kontos
Post by: Sandinista on 24 March 2012, 06:07:30 PM
I wish I had not opened this...
Title: Re: Late Roman Clibinarii with bow and kontos
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 24 March 2012, 06:28:11 PM
Too true! I don't have any in my late Roman painting pile yet, but them I get paid on Tuesday!
Title: Re: Late Roman Clibinarii with bow and kontos
Post by: fred. on 24 March 2012, 07:25:46 PM
Shall we tempt you further

(http://www.kerynne.com/games/images/LateEraRomans/skirmishers.jpg)

And some more here http://www.kerynne.com/games/LateEraRomans.html which reminds me that I should get more photos done as I have quite a few more units painted now
Title: Re: Late Roman Clibinarii with bow and kontos
Post by: republic of tolworth on 24 March 2012, 08:28:29 PM
For a man who 'hates' cavalry, those are very very nice figures  :'( 8)
Title: Re: Late Roman Clibinarii with bow and kontos
Post by: Phobos on 25 March 2012, 08:42:06 PM
Quick question: the Late Roman clibinarii and cataphracts, have stirrups?
Title: Re: Late Roman Clibinarii with bow and kontos
Post by: clibinarium on 25 March 2012, 08:52:40 PM
Nope stirups were unkown to the Romans as far as I am aware.
Title: Re: Late Roman Clibinarii with bow and kontos
Post by: Phobos on 25 March 2012, 11:00:54 PM
Me too, but... maybe different opinion from  the sculptor at the moment of make these :D

Excellent work, my skythians thank you.
Title: Re: Late Roman Clibinarii with bow and kontos
Post by: Luddite on 25 March 2012, 11:29:59 PM
Quote from: clibinarium on 25 March 2012, 08:52:40 PM
Nope stirups were unkown to the Romans as far as I am aware.

Interestingly, they were likely to be known to the Romans but not used by them.

The Sarmatians certainly used them (apparently to aid both horse archery and the use of the kontos) so the Romans are likely to have encountered stirrups used by these adversaries. 

However, there's no evidence as yet that the Romans adopted stirrups in favour of the treed saddle.

Title: Re: Late Roman Clibinarii with bow and kontos
Post by: Matt J on 26 March 2012, 09:23:15 AM
These are great models, would these be possible models for Sarmations? I have a hoard of Dacians to paint up but the Sarmation models from the Dacian range aren't the best and is causing me to postpone the project.
Title: Re: Late Roman Clibinarii with bow and kontos
Post by: Phobos on 26 March 2012, 12:14:21 PM
Any chance of see them compared in size with the new carthaginian cavalry?
Title: Re: Late Roman Clibinarii with bow and kontos
Post by: fred. on 26 March 2012, 04:48:23 PM
I don't have the Cartho Cavalry, but I do have some of the new Romans that Techno also made, the Clibinarii are on smaller horses, but are slightly bigger riders.
Title: Re: Late Roman Clibinarii with bow and kontos
Post by: Phobos on 26 March 2012, 05:33:04 PM
Thanks a lot! I think roman horses are slightly taller than carthos ones, which are way to weird for my taste.
Title: Re: Late Roman Clibinarii with bow and kontos
Post by: fred. on 26 March 2012, 09:41:01 PM
A couple of photos to try to compare the size of the late Roman Cavalry and the new Republican Romans

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-H7JKGtrR9ms/T3Dg83AXkDI/AAAAAAAAA9s/OXbn4XEkAT8/s912/IMG_1495.jpg)

And top three-quarter view

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-dAs8eziBGF8/T3Dg_qNEF8I/AAAAAAAAA90/HjVIK5ZbCug/s912/IMG_1496.jpg)
Title: Re: Late Roman Clibinarii with bow and kontos
Post by: fred. on 26 March 2012, 09:44:39 PM
Comparing my Kontos armed figures to Leon's - I have a question about the positioning of the spear - should it always be pointing straight ahead, even it this twists the rider round? I am particularly looking at the left hand two cataphracts in the overhead shot.
Title: Re: Late Roman Clibinarii with bow and kontos
Post by: DanJ on 27 March 2012, 01:34:27 PM
Nice figures but can someone explain what the cavalryman does with his kontos wheb he's using his bow?

I've presumed that in any given unit there would be a number of men armed with bows and a number armed with kontos.
Title: Re: Late Roman Clibinarii with bow and kontos
Post by: clibinarium on 27 March 2012, 03:13:55 PM
I never really did get to the bottom of that;
http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=42479