Pendraken Miniatures Forum

Wider Wargaming => Painting & Modelling => Painting Diaries => Topic started by: nikharwood on 04 August 2014, 02:29:36 PM

Title: Fantasy Beastmen for Warmaster
Post by: nikharwood on 04 August 2014, 02:29:36 PM
This week, I shall be mostly painting my Beastman (Beastmen?) army for Warmaster...

Having not picked up a (modelling) paintbrush in anger since February, I painted a load of 6mm sci-fi stuff at the weekend & have rediscovered a bit of my mojo. So, having braved mountains of boxes, I've located the Beastman army that got assembled & undercoated in January and have decided that they will get done - this week. Rationale behind that is that the 3/5 of the Harwood household that are of the female persuasion are away from this afternoon with Pony Club Camp - and I'm not working after today - so it's Isaac and I rattling around the place.

I've got a long list of work that I could / should be doing on the house - and some of that will happen - but I'm determined to get these done. And then move on to my 1809 Naps that were undercoated an even longer time ago.

Pics will follow in due course (just not this week as I go because I don't have internet access at home etc etc yawn shudder)
Title: Re: Fantasy Beastmen for Warmaster
Post by: Maenoferren on 04 August 2014, 11:34:46 PM
excellent
Title: Re: Fantasy Beastmen for Warmaster
Post by: Womble67 on 04 August 2014, 11:56:46 PM
I don't think it will take you long to get back into painting.  Anyway looking forward to seeing some pictures.

Take care

Andy
Title: Re: Fantasy Beastmen for Warmaster
Post by: nikharwood on 06 August 2014, 03:05:43 PM
Good progress being made on these - have taken some quick pics along the way & will upload them once they're all done. Hoping to get them finished tonight / tomorrow  :)
Title: Re: Fantasy Beastmen for Warmaster
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 06 August 2014, 07:55:45 PM
Nice one Nik!
Title: Re: Fantasy Beastmen for Warmaster
Post by: nikharwood on 15 August 2014, 05:52:28 PM
Resupply of static grass & spray matt varnish has landed, so hoping to get these finished this weekend  :)
Title: Re: Fantasy Beastmen for Warmaster
Post by: Leman on 16 August 2014, 06:51:07 AM
Bit of grit and determination goes a long way (not to mention flock).
Title: Re: Fantasy Beastmen for Warmaster
Post by: nikharwood on 26 August 2014, 11:05:03 AM
Quick update - these are all done, final pics taken - will edit & upload at some point this week (just not today as I'm grabbing an internet signal to this Macbook from my phone & it's not going to cope with pics...)
Title: Re: Fantasy Beastmen for Warmaster
Post by: nikharwood on 26 August 2014, 07:55:58 PM
Giving this a go - uploading ridiculously shrunken pics pics on a connection that I really don't trust (and which is slower than a slow thing going really slowly in the slow lane)...

Overbrush:
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/10mm%20beastmen/IMG_5082_zps7446834a.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/10mm%20beastmen/IMG_5083_zps2788c694.jpg)

Second overbrush - at this point I was going to go with black wolves...later changed my mind...
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/10mm%20beastmen/IMG_5084_zpsc281fd26.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/10mm%20beastmen/IMG_5088_zps687306c3.jpg)

Base colours:
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/10mm%20beastmen/IMG_5091_zps08dca540.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/10mm%20beastmen/IMG_5092_zpsa9f05ee4.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/10mm%20beastmen/IMG_5093_zps2f0a26d0.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/10mm%20beastmen/IMG_5094_zps764e1a86.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/10mm%20beastmen/IMG_5095_zps3f2bcbfb.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/10mm%20beastmen/IMG_5096_zps7e330607.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/10mm%20beastmen/IMG_5097_zps0a78a7a4.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/10mm%20beastmen/IMG_5098_zps09806dfa.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/10mm%20beastmen/IMG_5099_zps3ffe15b3.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/10mm%20beastmen/IMG_5100_zps937b0dd8.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/10mm%20beastmen/IMG_5101_zpsac8e55dd.jpg)

Brushed-on stain 'dip':
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/10mm%20beastmen/IMG_5102_zps60039ce0.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/10mm%20beastmen/IMG_5103_zps3be09bcb.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/10mm%20beastmen/IMG_5104_zpsa9ca89c6.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/10mm%20beastmen/IMG_5105_zpsa4beab58.jpg)

(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/10mm%20beastmen/IMG_5106_zps9caa6198.jpg)

I was unhappy with the wolves - so repainted them...
Finished - with static grass, base edges done & matt varnished (more pics here: http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,10486.0.html (http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,10486.0.html)):
(http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f175/nikharwood/10mm%20beastmen/CRW_5306-Version2_zps13362912.jpg)
Title: Re: Fantasy Beastmen for Warmaster
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 26 August 2014, 08:55:22 PM
Very very nice work Nik!  8)
Title: Re: Fantasy Beastmen for Warmaster
Post by: Ithoriel on 26 August 2014, 11:39:56 PM
Lovely stuff Nik!

Think I might go with black wolves for my next unit of them - looked quite effective to me.
Title: Re: Fantasy Beastmen for Warmaster
Post by: nikharwood on 27 August 2014, 12:00:01 AM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 26 August 2014, 08:55:22 PM
Very very nice work Nik!  8)

Quote from: Ithoriel on 26 August 2014, 11:39:56 PM
Lovely stuff Nik!

Think I might go with black wolves for my next unit of them - looked quite effective to me.

Thanks, chaps  :)

The black wolves looked absolutely fine - but they just jarred a bit with the overall look & 'feel' of this army once they were all together: with lots of earthy browns and neutral tones, it just seemed to me that they ought to tie in really simply with the majority...hence the (fast) repaint.

Of course, if (when) I get round to doing Vampire Counts...  ;)
Title: Re: Fantasy Beastmen for Warmaster
Post by: Techno on 27 August 2014, 07:08:26 AM
 :-bd
The man is up and running again......Huzzah !  :)
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Fantasy Beastmen for Warmaster
Post by: toxicpixie on 27 August 2014, 08:50:25 AM
Very nice - how long did that take you? Less time than getting the pictures to the web, given your comment on connections, I'll bet...
Title: Re: Fantasy Beastmen for Warmaster
Post by: nikharwood on 27 August 2014, 08:56:38 AM
Quote from: toxicpixie on 27 August 2014, 08:50:25 AM
Very nice - how long did that take you? Less time than getting the pictures to the web, given your comment on connections, I'll bet...

;D Yep - I reckon you're right...

Not sure - did them in a few brief sessions over a couple of days: probably 4 hours or so - then about 45 mins to finish the bases once resupplies of static grass had landed; something like that.

Of course, I seriously cheated with these; fast drybrushing, limited palette and Wilko's woodstain... 8)
Title: Re: Fantasy Beastmen for Warmaster
Post by: fred. on 27 August 2014, 09:04:44 AM
Good to see you back posting and painting Nik.

That's how to produce an army! Focus on the end result, not on over detailing each figure, this is 10mm army building.

Which code are the small figures with the big hoplite style shields?

Title: Re: Fantasy Beastmen for Warmaster
Post by: nikharwood on 27 August 2014, 09:11:19 AM
Quote from: fred    12df on 27 August 2014, 09:04:44 AM
Good to see you back posting and painting Nik.

That's how to produce an army! Focus on the end result, not on over detailing each figure, this is 10mm army building.

Which code are the small figures with the big hoplite style shields?



Those are the Haedusmen - mix of all four FHA codes: I've used them for Bestigors cos they're big, squat, and seriously fugly  ;)
Title: Re: Fantasy Beastmen for Warmaster
Post by: Ithoriel on 27 August 2014, 09:12:29 AM
I presume they're FHA2 & 4 from the Haedusmen range fred.

EDIT: Ah! Beaten to it by Nik
Title: Re: Fantasy Beastmen for Warmaster
Post by: toxicpixie on 27 August 2014, 09:40:44 AM
Quote from: nikharwood on 27 August 2014, 08:56:38 AM
;D Yep - I reckon you're right...

Not sure - did them in a few brief sessions over a couple of days: probably 4 hours or so - then about 45 mins to finish the bases once resupplies of static grass had landed; something like that.

Of course, I seriously cheated with these; fast drybrushing, limited palette and Wilko's woodstain... 8)

It's the way forwards :)

Highly tempting idea!
Title: Re: Fantasy Beastmen for Warmaster
Post by: fred. on 27 August 2014, 10:20:24 AM
Quote from: nikharwood on 27 August 2014, 09:11:19 AM
Those are the Haedusmen - mix of all four FHA codes: I've used them for Bestigors cos they're big, squat, and seriously fugly  ;)


Ta, I've missed those in the past. I'll have a think were they can be used, as your description is spot on  ;)
Title: Re: Fantasy Beastmen for Warmaster
Post by: Steve J on 27 August 2014, 12:54:03 PM
That woodstain really works well. I might gives this a go for my Medieval armies to see how it compares to Devlin Mud wash.
Title: Re: Fantasy Beastmen for Warmaster
Post by: nikharwood on 27 August 2014, 06:09:33 PM
Quote from: Steve J on 27 August 2014, 12:54:03 PM
That woodstain really works well. I might gives this a go for my Medieval armies to see how it compares to Devlin Mud wash.

It's cheaper, for a start  ;) The tins I've got (Rustic Oak which is darker than the Walnut, both Satin - so you need to spray matt varnish) are 250ml and, IIRC, are about £3.50ish...

Easy to brush on, dilutes / wash brushes with water, dries reasonably quickly & is as tough as old boots...
Title: Re: Fantasy Beastmen for Warmaster
Post by: Fenton on 27 August 2014, 09:17:40 PM
I am just finishing off some Shermans using a stain method though its AP stuff that I have had for a while and dilute it a bit with turps
Title: Re: Fantasy Beastmen for Warmaster
Post by: nikharwood on 27 August 2014, 09:38:46 PM
The only (major?) problem I have with using stains / dips is that it's making me a lazy b@$tard when it comes to thinking about painting....

Previously, I enjoyed painting multiple layers, highlights, wet-blends etc etc and would practically make my eyeballs bleed to get decent results. At the moment (as in, exactly at the moment) I find myself wondering whether I can "get away" with block colours & a stain on my 1809 Naps...

It's not as if I've got anyone else to please / impress etc - I know I can paint to a half-decent standard - so why, when I'm thinking of getting more armies onto the table more quickly, do I feel guilty / unclean / like I'm a cheating old so-and-so..?

:-\
Title: Re: Fantasy Beastmen for Warmaster
Post by: Fenton on 27 August 2014, 09:46:37 PM
I have always regarded it as just another tool to be used

I am old enough to remember magazine articles and letters from people saying that using acrylics was cheating and people should be using enamels to get a proper look to their figures..Time and techniques move on
Title: Re: Fantasy Beastmen for Warmaster
Post by: nikharwood on 27 August 2014, 09:54:56 PM
Yep - that's a good point, Fenton...and maybe I should just stop mentally beating myself up... :D

Right - glad that's decided - means I can get cracking with my Naps & do them in a few hours  ;) ;D ;)
Title: Re: Fantasy Beastmen for Warmaster
Post by: toxicpixie on 27 August 2014, 10:00:03 PM
If it's a choice between acceptable to good in quick enough time to actually get figures on table and played with versus never actually getting it done, count me in the block and stain crowd every damn time!
Title: Re: Fantasy Beastmen for Warmaster
Post by: Maenoferren on 27 August 2014, 10:02:39 PM
Quote from: nikharwood on 27 August 2014, 09:54:56 PM
Yep - that's a good point, Fenton...and maybe I should just stop mentally beating myself up... :D

Right - glad that's decided - means I can get cracking with my Naps & do them in a few hours  ;) ;D ;)
:Ph :Ph :Ph  =O
Title: Re: Fantasy Beastmen for Warmaster
Post by: fred. on 27 August 2014, 10:47:58 PM
Nik, it's a hobby so it should be enjoyable to you. Getting an army on the table and playing games with it is good. Enjoying painting figures nicely is good. But you don't have to paint every unit and every figure to a high standard. Get the bulk of the troops done with block and  wash, then spend some time detailing on a few - whether this is command units or a few choosen troops it's your choice.

Once the troops are on the table you are the only one who will know which are the ones that have had the extra time and effort spent on them. If you do this with a few units / figures it will please you as you will know that you put the effort in ( of course they will die first!) But if you try to do this for the whole army, it will sit in the cupboard forever.