Should I leave a tip?
It's no skin off my nose.
The thought of it brings a tear to my eye...
I'll let you know how bad in 28 days. :o :o :o
Ow! Ow! Ow! Ow!
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Waiting for the call to go in for the op. Various other procedures being done at the same time while I'm knocked out.
Being neither Jewish nor Islamic and well over the age of 15 I thought I'd dodged that particular bullet.
As we sang on Sunday evening:
"Life's a piece of sh*t, when you look at it
Life's a laugh and death's a joke, it's true
You'll see its all a show, keep 'em laughin' as you go
Just remember that the last laugh is on you
And...
Always look on the bright side of life..."
Ugh. One of the worst forms of institutionalised child abuse in existence.
Quote from: Ithoriel on 23 July 2014, 12:25:13 AM
Waiting for the call to go in for the op. Various other procedures being done at the same time while I'm knocked out.
You make it sound like a "buy one, get one free" deal.
A friend of mine who for medical reasons had this unkind operation done was fond of saying that before the operation, he was quite pleased when his wife nobbled on his foreskin, but he found it disconcerting when she continued to do so after the operation. :-& He was joking. I think. Having said that, I did meet the woman and ... it is possible.
Hope everything goes well, and your recovery time is short. Be careful though, Robocop just went in initially to have his tonsils out.
Many employment opportunities in Turkey if it should go wrong. ;)
Must admit I wimped out. What's mine is mine....
Quote from: fsn on 23 July 2014, 06:24:12 AM
You make it sound like a "buy one, get one free" deal.
Kind of is, need to be circumcised for them to be able to introduce a camera to check if I have bladder cancer - not sure anyone medical actually thinks I have but, given family history, better safe than sorry.
This is all getting rather out of the Fun Stuff range - let normal service resume :)
Quote from: fsn on 22 July 2014, 09:22:56 PM
Ow! Ow! Ow! Ow!
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
I agree with FSN - WHERE ARE ME PILLS ?
ianS (who was did at age 14, IT HURT)....
Quote from: Ithoriel on 23 July 2014, 10:08:27 AM
Kind of is, need to be circumcised for them to be able to introduce a camera to check if I have bladder cancer - not sure anyone medical actually thinks I have but, given family history, better safe than sorry.
This is all getting rather out of the Fun Stuff range - let normal service resume :)
Lighting a candle for you anyway, old boy.
I went under the knife at the ripe old age of 47. It went better than I expected. Easier ways of losing weith though.
Hope all goes Well.
I had a vasectomy at 20. That's one that really should be done under general anaesthetic; it didn't hurt, but I kept waiting for it to, and the thing is, you can feel what's happening. (shudders)
Quote from: Ithoriel on 23 July 2014, 10:08:27 AM
Kind of is, need to be circumcised for them to be able to introduce a camera to check if I have bladder cancer - not sure anyone medical actually thinks I have but, given family history, better safe than sorry.
Huh ?
When I was being checked for prostate cancer, I had the fibre optic camera inserted all the way into my bladder......(Fascinating to see your insides, in a weird sort of way.)
There was no talk of having to be circumcised.
Unless they did the dirty while they had me distracted, and I was watching the monitor.
No.....Just checked.
Anyway....Good luck again. 'I'
Cheers - Confused of Wales.
Quote from: slugbalancer on 23 July 2014, 12:25:21 PM
I went under the knife at the ripe old age of 47. It went better than I expected. Easier ways of losing weith though.
Hope all goes Well.
Thought kats had to be neutered at 8 weeks ?
IanS
Quote from: Techno on 01 August 2014, 10:56:51 AM
Huh ?
When I was being checked for prostate cancer, I had the fibre optic camera inserted all the way into my bladder......(Fascinating to see your insides, in a weird sort of way.)
There was no talk of having to be circumcised.
Unless they did the dirty while they had me distracted, and I was watching the monitor.
No.....Just checked.
Anyway....Good luck again. 'I'
Cheers - Confused of Wales.
At the risk of TMI, foreskin does not retract so doesn't allow the camera to be introduced into the err ... aperture. Hence the op. Having been given the impression weeks and weeks ago that this would happen soon , I'm still waiting for a date. No watching monitors for me, apparently I'll be out cold ... thank goodness!
Scaredy Kat....
IanS
Vasectomy was nothing.
My foreskin has never fully withdrawn - didn't know it was supposed to.
Quote from: FierceKitty on 01 August 2014, 09:24:26 AM
I had a vasectomy at 20. That's one that really should be done under general anaesthetic; it didn't hurt, but I kept waiting for it to, and the thing is, you can feel what's happening. (shudders)
I had one about ten years ago. It wasn't the fact that I could feel what was going on that unnerved me. It was the smell.
I thought someone was frying sausages; then realised it was me! :o
Quote from: Last Hussar on 01 August 2014, 07:33:49 PM
My foreskin has never fully withdrawn - didn't know it was supposed to.
Thats how you got the kids! ;D
I had the snip about 7 years ago - It was sureeal. It was done under a local anesthetic and while the Doctor was playing with hisn scalpel we were talking about Formula 1 and the Grand Prix the previous weekend.
My only concern was that he was not concentrating enough- fortunately all still worked ok afterwards.
On a more worrying note:- The guy i worked shifts with has had to have a vesectomt TWICE !! :o
He had a vesectomy and 7 years later his wife was pregnant. Obviously this caused some consternation to them both. They went to see the consultant and he said " Sometimes the tubes rejoin, it most commonly happens after about 7 years, its not unusual !" He was still a little dubious until he went to have it done again. The doctor doing the operation said "You obviously had had this done before cos I can see where the tube has rejoined).
I had the snip about 13 years ago - I can see why they get called plums - they swelled up and went purple.
I was snipped about 20 years ago. Why do they always have the nice looking nurses doing the pre-op stuff? Thoroughly disconcerting!
Not being completely anaethatised, aneathatised knocked out was strange and yes, you can feel everything it just didn't hurt; the pull of the stitches felt a bit strange though. The surgeon and I were discussing football most of the time.
I was lucky, two days later I was back at work.
Someone I knew had it done and one of his testicles was well swollen. Two weeks off work recovery jobbie.
Stitches! I had plasters.
Quote from: Last Hussar on 09 August 2014, 07:47:40 PM
Stitches! I had plasters.
Sorry, at first glance I thought you had written plasterers! That got me wondering...
This is really an anglo-saxon thing.
You won't find that many men with vasectomy in the south of Europe.
Quote from: barbarian on 10 August 2014, 12:14:10 AM
This is really an anglo-saxon thing.
You won't find that many men with vasectomy in the south of Europe.
You mean among the anti-birth control Catholic regions!
NO RELIGON, SEX or politics in the mess.
IanS
Another milestone (?) for the forum.
Ian's post above was number 123456.....Huzzah !! ;)
Cheers - Phil.
P.S......You forgot Aztecs, Ian. ;)
Indeed. Jolly bad form. In my day we'd have been horsewhipped for saying "catholic" at a formal dinner.
Some visiting Spaniard tried to raise a toast to "His Most Catholic Majesty" and was immediately set upon by subalterns and beaten with knotted ropes.
I once described myself as having a catholic taste in music and was sent by the mess president to sit in a cold bath for 4 hours 33 minutes.
Then of course, there was poor Carruthers who said that his "tailor's bill was due", and this was taken to mean that he was a bankrupt who owed money to to the Yiddish speaking chap who made his mess jackets. Poor Carruthers was cashiered. Ended up in Parliament. True story.
Happy days.
^#(^ ^#(^ ^#(^
But I wasn't discussing religion. It was geography, Honest.
Quote from: ianrs54 on 10 August 2014, 07:53:17 AM
NO RELIGON, SEX or politics in the mess.
IanS
Well, that rules out 95% of human conversation, then.
And over in the UK.....The other 5% is taken up by the weather. ;)
Cheers - Phil
Quote from: Techno on 10 August 2014, 07:56:15 AM
P.S......You forgot Aztecs, Ian. ;)
Phil - stop swearing - alternatively I'm trying too, but keep getting mauled by a ferocious kitten.
IanS
Mew!
Quote from: Techno on 10 August 2014, 07:56:15 AM
Ian's post above was number 123456.....Huzzah !! ;)
Techno; Pendraken's Rainman.
OI !!
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Cheers - Phil
Quote from: FierceKitty on 10 August 2014, 01:00:00 PM
Mew!
That da*md cat got back in......
Must sacrifice it the sun god. Kitten Curry anyone ?
IanS
You want to eat a .... Um....
Steady, that man ! ;)
Cheers - Phil
That's what I will be telling the surgeon.
An Indian granny who ran a veggie take-away in Cape Town tried very earnestly to persuade me not to move to Thailand. "They eat cats there, Alexander! Really!" Mind you, she'd tried to persuade me that the bronze Ganesh next to the till drank a glass of milk every evening too.
When I worked for the life-assurance company in Joburg every proposal we got from an Indian client specified "diabetes" in the medical ailments section. What does that tell you about the Indian diet?
They really like Jelly Babies?
Perhaps they were just trying to curry favour?
AAAARGH !!! ;) ;D
Cheers - Phil
Well I'm home. See how I feel when the local anaesthetic wears off... :'( :'( :'(
Wimp :D
IanS
Hope it's okay...
Take care, Matey !
Cheers - Phil.
Hope it's not too uncomfortable LH.
Finally have dates and times. 1st Sept for a 1 - 2 hour check that I won't peg it if they put me under. If that's OK, in on Sunday 21st for the op itself.
Good to finally have an appointment, better still if I didn't need one in the first place!!
AFTER TYPING ALL THIS I REALISE THIS MAY BE TOO MUCH INFO. It is meant to reassure. Warning over.
Ok, the op is fine - you get a general and wake up some where else. Not sure on your timings, I had to be at the Day theatre at 7:30 am (they do other kinds- there aren't that many men wanting it to mutilate themselves!). No eating after midnight the day before, only clear liquids (NOT VODKA/GIN) after 12, nothing after 6am.
A doc (he wasn't the consultant) goes through things with you, gets you to sign consent. Ask questions here- they are professionals so I asked about um 'Morning glory' etc.
Anaesthetist talks through the General with you, how you will have a breathing tube down your throat after you are out.
Nurse will explain the prep - what you wear, no jewelry except wedding ring, measure you for surgical stockings etc. She will take blood pressure/heart rate. They want you to go to the toilet even if you think you are empty - again I think this is because of the general.
They will all ask you the same questions - allergies, dental work, health etc. This is all because of the general. They always ask permission before doing anything- "Is it ok to put this needle in you" and they explained all the time. They in the Prep you are on the trolley, they put a cannula into your 'off' fore-arm - this is the needle which takes the drugs in. They put an oxygen mask on you. First up is a strong pain killer via the cannula, then an anti nausea drug for when you wake then... well that is the last thing I remember.
Woke up in recovery. You may want to vomit- they know this; I didn't- I felt fine.
YOU MUST HAVE A ADULT TOO LOOK AFTER YOU FOR THE NEXT 48 HOURS. You can't go home alone, you need to be looked after. You are not even supposed to boil a kettle (because if you pass out you will drop it down your self. Told my eldest he is my Tea Bitch tomorrow.
You are VERY tender - try and get a spare dressing out of them - I wish I had. Its like a nappy for the old chap. Make sure you have lots of strong pain killers on hand. Wear loose clothing - I am in my M&S Nightshirt (yeah very Dickens.) (hehe DICKens).
Stoke Mandeville were wonderful. The staff were understanding - they didn't say 'Don't be a wimp' to me.
Try not to look at it. You'll be upset.
Peeing while it is still asleep is weird - You can't tell you are going (I was sitting so I didn't have to hold it).
Huge respect for your honesty sir.
Recover well.
:'( :'( :'( SO SORE :'( :'( :'(
No really - get a spare dressing from somewhere - I have had to appropriate something with 'wings' :o :o
Thanks LH - deffo not TMI for me - useful to have some info from someone who's just been through it.
Clearly there are genetics involved in this for me - I'm just discovering how many family members (Ooh Err Missus!) have had the op and told no one until I was open about what I was having done.
A sudden urge to smite the Gentiles is a common side-effect.
Oy vey, he wants blue serge, he says. All dressed up like some goy schmuck.
Oh no, I'm channelling stereotypes from before I was born!
Thing to remember - I don't know if you will have to arrange your life - the list of things you shouldn't do for 48 hours after a General is sign any legal papers. I got the impression that they are not legally valid. I feel fine, a little muzzy, but that could be because apart from the General, I've only managed 3 hours sleep since waking up on Monday (2 on Tues morning because of nerves, 1 between 4-5 this morning)
My eldest is the Legal Adult supervising me at the moment - as he said at the weekend "I'm 18 now, I'm a vaguely responsible adult!" Mind you he is still a teen, so will be asleep until 1pm!
Yes, but at least he'll be awake at three o'clock in the morning - although he probably won't hear you cry out through the headphones. (Now who's resorting to stereotypes.... )
Actually he made me a cup of tea at 3 this morning. His computer fan was going loopy because it was on a virus scan, so he had opened all the windows, and was now too cold to sleep!
I've messaged Ithoriel with things I am learning, to save you lot having to read it.
Circumcision- its a sore point in my household.
Quote from: Last Hussar on 21 August 2014, 03:19:49 PM
I've messaged Ithoriel with things I am learning, to save you lot having to read it.
Yep.....Keep it right away from the rest of us !
Seriously though.....I think it's an excellent idea to share 'things like this'......As a society (?) we've brushed certain aspects 'under the table'.....Shouldn't talk about that sort of thing in polite company, old man (Sorry ! ;D ;D ;D ;D ).
Before....Folk were kept 'in the dark'......Which, to my mind, is far worse than useless.....Nowadays we've grown up a bit (Oh, OK... I haven't) and don't feel dreadful about sharing what are, and were, somewhat 'embarrassing' experiences....... and I'm sure that helps 'lots'.
Hope that makes sense ! ;)
Best wishes to both - Phil
Sounds a bit as if you got a problem that you want to talk about but don't really dare to see the doctor about Phil..?
Come on then, out with it! :D
Rob
No Rob....Not at all ;) ;D
I was tested for prostate cancer..(Five years ago, now ?)..with all the potentially embarrassing 'things' that they do to you....Which I've mentioned on the forum before.
Optic fibre camera pushed into the bladder from (ahem) 'one part of the body'.......And on a different day......Samples taken from the prostate via a different route ! ;D ;D ;D
It would have helped me enormously to have talked through the procedures with someone who had already been through the different 'examinations'. ;)
Basically because, when you don't know about something like this......Your mind makes it potentially thousands of times worse/more embarrassing than it truly is.
I was the first of four chaps for the second procedure when they take a biopsy to check for anything 'bad'.
Once it had been done, it was a case of "Is that it ?......You've finished, have you ?"......."Yep".....
"Brilliant !......I'll lie, and tell the others how AWFUL that was." (It wasn't.....Not something that you'd rush back to have done on a weekly basis.....But not something to fear at all if you ever had to go through it again !)
I was told that if I said it was awful......they'd kick the poop out of me.....So I didn't ! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Cheers - Phil
The thing is I don't have any one to speak to. I had to have it done because my foreskin has always been too tight - I was quite old when I found it is supposed to go down! My wife doesn't understand the psychological impact this is having
That's the worst thing, I reckon.
Can't talk to anyone........Because it's something "Not to be talked about."
I think, as a society, we're getting better, as subjects such as this, are not quite so 'taboo'...We're starting to 'grow up' and get away from 'Victorian attitudes.'
I still don't want to see any pictures though ! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Hope you're doing well LH.
Best wishes - Phil
QuoteI still don't want to see any pictures though ! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Tough - I'm sending you a glossy brochure.
Close ups...
When I was a kid, I sat on a knitting needle. It perforated my bowel and the consequent leakage stopped the wound from healing. It took 6 years for them to find and fix the problem. Now, they'd whack me in a scanner and that'd be that. Ended up with a series of operations including a tube that went through my body front to back and every day they'd pull it through a little bit and cut the end off and a course of lying with my bare bum exposed to a sunlamp. For 2 years I had a colostomy.
Unfortunately, I was an interesting case, so for a couple of years I was regularly dragged back in to hospital whilst a succession of students took turns inserting their fingers in my backside.
You know, not one of them offered to buy me dinner.
Slut.
My dad had an operation done twice (it might have been vasectomy) because they wanted to show the student doctors both ways!
I'll tell you what, though, I'm never having this done again.
Quote from: Techno on 21 August 2014, 08:36:16 PM
That's the worst thing, I reckon.
Can't talk to anyone........Because it's something "Not to be talked about."
I think, as a society, we're getting better, as subjects such as this, are not quite so 'taboo'...We're starting to 'grow up' and get away from 'Victorian attitudes.'
l
Quite agree, Phil. When I was diagnosed with angina and told I would need a stent I was lucky in that a work colleague had had the procedure done a few years before. He was able to sit me down and say "this is what will happen, it's a piece of cake, the most pain you will feel is the prick of the anaesthetic needle going in". That banished any anxieties I may have had. And he was right - the worst part of the entire business was the recovery period, three hours of staring at the ceiling.
Quote from: Last Hussar on 21 August 2014, 07:09:21 PM
The thing is I don't have any one to speak to. I had to have it done because my foreskin has always been too tight - I was quite old when I found it is supposed to go down! My wife doesn't understand the psychological impact this is having
Explain to her that you have been forced to change alliegiance from being a Cavalier to a Roundhea
Seriously thiough, have a speedy recovery.
Having this op can also help avoid other painful problems at middle age.
It was her that got me to go to the docs. Its the lack of understanding: I think its one of those things a member of opposite sex can never understand. :'(
Quote from: Last Hussar on 22 August 2014, 08:22:55 AM
It was her that got me to go to the docs. Its the lack of understanding: I think its one of those things a member of opposite sex can never understand. :'(
Next time you come back from the Docs tell her the doctor has said that you need a daily B.... job for the next two weeks to aid the healing process. :d
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
No
No
No
I don't want to put any strain on the stitches. I have been advised by the Doc at A&E to get up before "he" does, so he doesn't say hello first thing in the morning - don't want to put strain on the stitches.
They should have stitched it with elastic band maybe; or they could have left some slack on the stitches? :-\
Good luck, and stay away from the Top Totty thread then ;)
Cheers,
Rob
Quote from: Ace of Spades on 22 August 2014, 12:14:41 PM
They should have stitched it with elastic band maybe; or they could have left some slack on the stitches? :-\
We're talking expansion gaps here then? Works on bridges, I suppose. :D
Quote from: Hertsblue on 23 August 2014, 09:50:34 AM
We're talking expansion gaps here then? Works on bridges, I suppose. :D
Correct! Heck, you might even gain an inch by the time it's healed! :D
Cheers,
Rob