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Wider Wargaming => Resources => Resources - Ancients to Renaissance (3000BC - 1680) => Topic started by: Druzhina on 21 July 2014, 12:07:22 PM

Title: 15th century illustrations by Ottomans
Post by: Druzhina on 21 July 2014, 12:07:22 PM
There are not many 15th century illustrations by Ottomans. One example is an Ottoman copy of Khusrau and Shirin, 1498–99AD (http://warfare.meximas.com/Ottoman/Khusrau_and_Shirin-Sultan-large.htm), which includes Khusrau riding on Shabdiz, his beautiful horse, while hunting (http://warfare.meximas.com/Ottoman/Khusrau_and_Shirin-Hunting-large.htm) and a battle scene with soldiers portrayed as 15th century Ottomans (http://warfare.meximas.com/Ottoman/Khusrau_and_Shirin-Battle-large.htm)
(http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=13713&d=1405942501)

MIRROR SITE
An Ottoman copy of Khusrau and Shirin, 1498–99AD (http://warfare2.likamva.in/Ottoman/Khusrau_and_Shirin-Sultan-large.htm)
Khusrau riding on Shabdiz, his beautiful horse, while hunting (http://warfare2.likamva.in/Ottoman/Khusrau_and_Shirin-Hunting-large.htm)
A battle scene with soldiers portrayed as 15th century Ottomans (http://warfare2.likamva.in/Ottoman/Khusrau_and_Shirin-Battle-large.htm)

David Nicole in Armies of the Ottoman Turks 1300-1774, 1983, Osprey, says a Sulayman-namah, c.1500, Ms. 406, F 1V, Chester Beatty Lib. Dublin, is probably the oldest existing Muslim representation of Ottoman warriors. Does anyone have coloured images of this or other 15th century illustrations by Ottomans?

Druzhina
Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers (http://warfare2.netai.net/index.htm)
Title: Re: 15th century illustrations by Ottomans
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 21 July 2014, 12:15:08 PM
Very detailed mate. 8)
Title: Re: 15th century illustrations by Ottomans
Post by: Techno on 21 July 2014, 02:10:55 PM
Not so keen on the trees, though  ;)
Still a fascinating illo.
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: 15th century illustrations by Ottomans
Post by: Matt J on 21 July 2014, 03:28:09 PM
QuoteNot so keen on the trees

Trees are great Phil, everyone loves lollipop trees.

Hunting scene is interesting. Do you reckon the bound man (possibly slave/prisoner? - don't fancy his job) shows them using human bait for hunting big game cats?

Also dig the killer swans  :)

Title: Re: 15th century illustrations by Ottomans
Post by: Druzhina on 24 July 2014, 10:18:03 AM
Here is the frontispiece of a 15th-century Ottoman Sulayman-Name Ms. 406 (http://warfare.meximas.com/Ottoman/Sulayman-namah-Ms406-f1v.htm) thanks to matmohair1.

MIRROR SITE
Frontispiece of a 15th-century Ottoman Sulayman-Name Ms. 406 (http://warfare2.likamva.in/Ottoman/Sulayman-namah-Ms406-f1v.htm)

Druzhina
Ottoman Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers (http://warfare2.likamva.in/Ottoman/Ottoman.htm)
Title: Re: 15th century illustrations by Ottomans
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 24 July 2014, 03:46:03 PM
Again, the man hours and the fact it's survived, amazing.
Title: Re: 15th century illustrations by Ottomans
Post by: Druzhina on 29 July 2014, 05:19:24 AM
There is also Sultan Mehmed II smelling a rose by Nakkas, Sinan Bey, end of 15th century (http://warfare.meximas.com/Ottoman/Sultans/Sultan_Mehmed_II_smelling_a_rose-Haz2153-f10a.htm)
and, thanks to matmohair1, the Sketchbook of Sultan Mehmed II, c.1440 (http://warfare.meximas.com/Ottoman/Sultans/Sketchbook_of_Mehmed_II-c1440.htm) showing drawings of heads.

Druzhina
Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers (http://warfare2.likamva.in/index.htm)
Title: Re: 15th century illustrations by Ottomans
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 29 July 2014, 06:34:13 AM
Nice to see some realism in the art of Istanbul. Normally it's that very flat style, but the rose picture is really warts and all!
Love the sketchbook too.
Title: Re: 15th century illustrations by Ottomans
Post by: Techno on 29 July 2014, 06:51:54 AM
Agree with Will about the rose picture.
The Sultan's sketchbook ? Hmmmm  :-\  ;)
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: 15th century illustrations by Ottomans
Post by: Leman on 29 July 2014, 07:33:13 AM
Quote from: Techno on 21 July 2014, 02:10:55 PM
Not so keen on the trees, though  ;)
Still a fascinating illo.
Cheers - Phil

Look just like wargames trees to me.