Hi,
I'm about to start (what I hope will be) a sizeable ECW collection.
I just wondered if anyone could share their thoughts on how they base their figures.
My initial idea was to base 8 or ten infantry (pike and shotte) on 20x40mm bases. That way I could easily swap ratios of both troop types in a regiment depending on whether they're representing Royalists or Parliamentarians.
I'm wavering though. I wonder if that will result in overcrowding.
Any advice at all most gratefully accepted.
Thanks in advance
I'd keep the pike and shot on separate bases. There are times when you legitimately need to swivel a company of musketeers etc, don't you think?
Sorry, yeah, my writing was a lot less than clear there. I'll be basing the pike and shotte separately, I just wondered how many figures people tended to fix to a base, and what size bases they used.
Sorry - but it is an impossible question. Pike you could get 15 figs 10mm on a 40x20, with 10 shotte, which would give a good visual appearance.
IanS
ECW is on my To-Do list
Unless you are using rules like impetus or Principles of War etc where the whole unit is on a base then I would separate the shot from the pike
As to what size base to use again it depends on the rules
I intend to use 30mm square with 8 shot in 2 ranks and 12 pikes in 3 ranks
I based my pike 20 figs on 40 x 40 and muskets 10 figs on 20 x 40
Quote from: Sandinista on 27 June 2014, 03:57:47 PM
I based my pike 20 figs on 40 x 40 and muskets 10 figs on 20 x 40
Right, thanks. That's kind of what I had in mind. I'd seen a few pictures with less figures on larger bases (with more space between the figures and the base edge) though, and wondered if anyone was doing that kind of thing.
Thanks so much for all the replies
Quote from: Shedman on 27 June 2014, 03:51:58 PM
ECW is on my To-Do list
Unless you are using rules like impetus or Principles of War etc where the whole unit is on a base then I would separate the shot from the pike
As to what size base to use again it depends on the rules
I intend to use 30mm square with 8 shot in 2 ranks and 12 pikes in 3 ranks
Even with Barroque (the Impetus rules for the period) I would base the battalia on three bases - 40mm square for me.
Do your bases as your pocket will bear. Aesthetics is important
I like the look of blocky-looking units that look like the wood cuts of the period
Click link below for some games we did at Salute
http://s1213.photobucket.com/user/BernardGanley/slideshow/This%20War%20without%20an%20Enemy/Salute%202014
Link below for bases sizes we use: 12 pike to a base in 3 ranks, 8 shotte, 4 horse
http://realtimewargames.webplus.net/page17.html
Good luck with the project
I've done 16 pike in four by four on a 40mm square base for my recent Italian wars stuff and that looks good, IMO! The arquebus are on five to a 40mm by 20mm in staggered 3-2 ranks. They're more skirmishy than "proper" Shotte, so either three by two or four by two would be good.
Thanks again for all the replies. Those pictures are fantastic. I've got a good 300 or so figures to be getting on with (as soon as I finish the second of my little DBA Wars of the Roses armies). The intention (always full of those) is to base things around Marston Moor; so we get Rupert and Newcastle, the Eastern Association and Covenanters - plenty of variety.
Hi,
I started my first 10mm ECW army this year and have based the figures up as follows :
Large Regiments (4 bases).
Smaller Regiments (3 bases).
Each base is 45mm wide by 50mm deep and holds 15 figures (3 ranks of 5).
Large Regiments have 2 pike bases and 2 shot. Smaller Regiments have
1 pike and 2 shot.
Two reasons for choosing the base size. Firstly, I intended to add scenic elements
to each base (which didn't happen) - hence the need for depth. Secondly, I
had a batch of this size base left over from an earlier project ! Bear in mind that
this was not an army based up for any particular rules requirement but something
done just for the love of painting.
A few pics here :
http://s761.photobucket.com/user/glorfindel-666/library/#/user/glorfindel-666/library/10mm%20English%20Civil%20War?sort=3&page=0&_suid=14039469525370800551121824647 (http://s761.photobucket.com/user/glorfindel-666/library/#/user/glorfindel-666/library/10mm%20English%20Civil%20War?sort=3&page=0&_suid=14039469525370800551121824647)
I have also attached a couple of sample pics to give you an idea of what this looks
like so you can decide whether it suites.
(http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx254/glorfindel-666/10mm%20English%20Civil%20War/IMG_2541_zps93b9c4d0.jpg) (http://s761.photobucket.com/user/glorfindel-666/media/10mm%20English%20Civil%20War/IMG_2541_zps93b9c4d0.jpg.html)
(http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx254/glorfindel-666/10mm%20English%20Civil%20War/IMG_2580_zps059c30a1.jpg) (http://s761.photobucket.com/user/glorfindel-666/media/10mm%20English%20Civil%20War/IMG_2580_zps059c30a1.jpg.html)
Hope this helps to visualise the effect of this base size.
Cheers,
Phil
Quote from: Glorfindel on 28 June 2014, 09:08:37 AM
Hi,
I started my first 10mm ECW army this year and have based the figures up as follows :
What the FAQ?
My advice is - decide on a set of rules and go from there. If the rules are base-size tolerant then you'll have a lot more flexibility. The thing to avoid if possible is having to re-base the entire army further down the line when the next flavour-of-the-month set comes out. :'(
>>What the FAQ?<<
Pressed the blinkin wrong button by mistake and submitted half complete post !!
Mutter, mutter.
Post now corrected !
Cheers,
Phil
Mmm, those are the cat's pyjamas. :)
That makes more sense! Love those. 8)
These are 30mm square bases, 16 pike or 10-12 musket per base
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2643/3750381870_740f8a99b3_z.jpg)
Quote from: Glorfindel on 28 June 2014, 09:08:37 AM
Hope this helps to visualise the effect of this base size.
It certainly does! Thanks so much. I like the extra acreage on your bases - a lot less cramped.
I've got a copy of Warlord Games'
Pike and Shotte so base size is unimportant.
I might give more square bases a go after seeing these.
http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,8714.0.html
An ECW battle of mine a few months ago.
Thanks for the kind words chaps.
Fierce Kitty - Any chance of a close up of those cavalry in your battle report ? I've just
started painting up the cavalry units and am having a hard time driving it forward !
Need some inspiration.
Probably offer a chance to see some different basing ideas (which is always good).
Cheers,
Phil
I'll speak to my better half tomorrow, though if you find my painting inspiring, maybe you need to upgrade your specs!
Here's what I've settled on after all your suggestion:
Looks like a good decision!
Mollinary
Like it!
Looks like a good choice :)
Looks good. Wait until you start painting that infantry - the figures are just fantastic
and pull you along.
Apologies if you know this already but you might also find this link useful for your flags :
http://www.wargamesdesigns.com/freebies---ecw.html (http://www.wargamesdesigns.com/freebies---ecw.html)
Cheers,
Phil
Quote from: Glorfindel on 06 July 2014, 10:54:45 AM
Looks good. Wait until you start painting that infantry - the figures are just fantastic
and pull you along.
Apologies if you know this already but you might also find this link useful for your flags :
http://www.wargamesdesigns.com/freebies---ecw.html (http://www.wargamesdesigns.com/freebies---ecw.html)
Cheers,
Phil
I haven't seen that site before - a brilliant resource! I like to paint my flags onto tin foil but I'll definitely be copying these designs. Thanks so much, that's really useful.
Rebasing is a pig, although immensely satisfying once it's done. Gorfindel's basing looks really good.