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Title: Mordheim!
Post by: Luddite on 25 June 2014, 08:44:45 PM
Bit of a blast from the past, but i'm doing a diversion into an oldie but goldie - Mordheim.

http://luddite1811.blogspot.co.uk/2014/06/mordheim-city-of-damned_25.html (http://luddite1811.blogspot.co.uk/2014/06/mordheim-city-of-damned_25.html)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Tnydf-rVYmI/U6syOrYkcyI/AAAAAAAABmA/WTcbXAp8CI4/s1600/IMG_0736.JPG)
Title: Re: Mordheim!
Post by: petercooman on 25 June 2014, 08:47:48 PM
Great stuff!

I have some of the metals lying about, still not painted  :'(

These days i always say the same when i see stuff online, i have it but unpainted lol
Title: Re: Mordheim!
Post by: Genom on 25 June 2014, 09:15:56 PM
One of the best games out there in my opinion despite where it came from and the fact they ditched it!

We're just coming to the end of a campaign for this in our group, one more game to go next month and we'll see who is victorious.
Title: Re: Mordheim!
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 25 June 2014, 09:18:46 PM
Nice work
Title: Re: Mordheim!
Post by: Techno on 26 June 2014, 06:42:46 AM
I like those !  8)
Cheers - Phil
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Post by: Steve J on 26 June 2014, 07:10:34 AM
Great game and funnily enough I saw my old warbands this morning whilst tidying some stuff up.
Title: Re: Mordheim!
Post by: Luddite on 29 June 2014, 09:35:15 PM
The project progresses.  We spent the weekend building some terrain.

http://luddite1811.blogspot.co.uk/2014/06/mordheim-city-of-damned-part-2.html (http://luddite1811.blogspot.co.uk/2014/06/mordheim-city-of-damned-part-2.html)
Title: Re: Mordheim!
Post by: Techno on 30 June 2014, 06:45:17 AM
Now, that.....I can't wait to see finished !
Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: Mordheim!
Post by: Nosher on 30 June 2014, 09:51:50 AM
Can you still get hold of the rules?
Title: Re: Mordheim!
Post by: Fenton on 30 June 2014, 10:15:07 AM
Sure you could pick them up on ebay but these seem to be what a lot of people are starting to use now

http://www.coreheim.com/
Title: Re: Mordheim!
Post by: Luddite on 30 June 2014, 10:18:02 AM
We're using this:  http://www.hong-crewet.dk/links/mordheim/ (http://www.hong-crewet.dk/links/mordheim/)
Title: Re: Mordheim!
Post by: Nosher on 30 June 2014, 12:34:11 PM
Cheers fella
Title: Re: Mordheim!
Post by: Leman on 30 June 2014, 06:29:50 PM
Quote from: Genom on 25 June 2014, 09:15:56 PM
One of the best games out there in my opinion despite where it came from and the fact they ditched it!

We're just coming to the end of a campaign for this in our group, one more game to go next month and we'll see who is victorious.

So many of their best games ditched in favour of some pretty dire stuff, essentially still stuck in the 70s. Funny that WAB died a death amongst historical gamers. (In Britain we call this sarcasm, ie not surprising at all!
Title: Re: Mordheim!
Post by: toxicpixie on 01 July 2014, 09:19:08 AM
I dunno, it seemed to do alright - made fourteen years worth of print and support?! Although it never hit the competition treadmill, I s'pose. I suspect its death had more to do with GW marketing than with player base. That said, it's not really my cup of tea, and definitely isn't now!
Title: Re: Mordheim!
Post by: Leman on 01 July 2014, 10:13:16 AM
I found it weird having to take kicking horses into account in a melee. It seemed to be going back to the 70s/80s thing of having far too many variables so that wargaming essentially became a number crunching exercise. If I hadn't enjoyed the painting and collecting side of the hobby I would probably have jacked it in in the early 80s.
Title: Re: Mordheim!
Post by: toxicpixie on 01 July 2014, 10:21:04 AM
It's a very old school set of rules, for sure. Wasn't greatly my cup of tea at the time, as although I don't object to buckets of dice it didn't seem very apt for the real world, was a bit too finicky and Iwasn't a fan of figure removal for casualties for "big unit, big scale" rules. And all that is magnified now, so it's even less of a draw for me!
Title: Re: Mordheim!
Post by: Ithoriel on 01 July 2014, 11:17:02 AM
For me Mordheim, Necromunda, Epic and Warmaster worked well because the game mechanisms worked at an appropriate level for the actions they claimed to represent.

Warhammer Fantasy, 40K and WAB on the other hand were a dog's breakfast of mismatched mechanisms leading to games that couldn't decide if they were "big battle" or skirmish.

Not to say that people didn't or shouldn't enjoy Warhammer just that I found it profoundly unsatisfactory
Title: Re: Mordheim!
Post by: toxicpixie on 01 July 2014, 11:34:45 AM
That pretty much sums it up, I think.

I do like the original "white box" & Rogue Trader ethos where it was definitevly a "not-quite an RPG-skirmish game", but I don't the rules scaled up past that even with constant "revision"...

The skirmish level sets were awesome though, many happy hours spent on Necromunda, and whilst Warmaster still leaves me a bit cold in places there's only minor tweaks needed to make it excellent :D
Title: Re: Mordheim!
Post by: Leman on 01 July 2014, 01:00:58 PM
Isn't that Black Powder et al? Must admit I do enjoy those and have had some excellent C18th and C19th games with them.
Title: Re: Mordheim!
Post by: Luddite on 01 July 2014, 10:17:10 PM
Painting the terrain begins...

http://luddite1811.blogspot.co.uk/2014/06/mordheim-city-of-damned-part-2.html (http://luddite1811.blogspot.co.uk/2014/06/mordheim-city-of-damned-part-2.html)
Title: Re: Mordheim!
Post by: fred. on 01 July 2014, 10:20:44 PM
Looks really good, already. I like the walkway / bridge idea, and the platform on the roof of the tower.
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Post by: paulr on 01 July 2014, 11:18:01 PM
Coming along very nicely indeed.

What are the black bits you used for rocks?
Title: Re: Mordheim!
Post by: Luddite on 01 July 2014, 11:49:55 PM
OO-gauge railway modelling coal.
Title: Re: Mordheim!
Post by: paulr on 02 July 2014, 04:54:27 AM
Quote from: Luddite on 01 July 2014, 11:49:55 PM
OO-gauge railway modelling coal.

And here I was thinking it was all scratch built  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Mordheim!
Post by: toxicpixie on 02 July 2014, 07:43:33 AM
Now that's looking cracking.... BTW I see 4Ground are releasing some fantasy houses in 28mm that have a tres "Empire" theme ;)
Title: Re: Mordheim!
Post by: Luddite on 02 July 2014, 12:17:08 PM
Yeah I saw those.  4ground are excellent.  We recently bought some of their lovely Japanese buildings for an upcoming Ronin campaign we're doing.

I also have a bunch of their csrts and wagons.  Very nice.
Title: Re: Mordheim!
Post by: toxicpixie on 02 July 2014, 12:20:31 PM
I've a variety of their cheaper bits & bobs too (some fencing, out houses, Russian steppe houses in 15mm), and I do fancy their big 28mm kits but sadly lack of need and lack of money say no ;)

All very tasty.
Title: Re: Mordheim!
Post by: sebigboss79 on 02 July 2014, 12:27:28 PM
Interesting :)

In issues 4 and 6 of my magazine I am looking at "Dead Games". :-\
Nice to see I am not the only one with some sense of nostalgia.
Title: Re: Mordheim!
Post by: Luddite on 02 July 2014, 01:11:05 PM
You have a magazine?  Do you need contributors?
Title: Re: Mordheim!
Post by: Luddite on 05 July 2014, 03:43:02 PM
Things are progressing steadily (but slower than expected this week as i had to spend some time in the foul cesspit that is London this week for work).

Here's the latest report on the buildings and terrain http://luddite1811.blogspot.co.uk/2014/07/mordheim-city-of-damned-part-3.html (http://luddite1811.blogspot.co.uk/2014/07/mordheim-city-of-damned-part-3.html)
Title: Re: Mordheim!
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 05 July 2014, 05:20:23 PM
Nice work.
Copper roof, very useful for keeping deities wrath at bay!

On the inn, why is the loo on the roof?!
Title: Re: Mordheim!
Post by: Luddite on 05 July 2014, 05:45:54 PM
Its not, it's in the yard.  The little hut on the roof covers the spiral stairs up.

;)
Title: Re: Mordheim!
Post by: toxicpixie on 05 July 2014, 09:38:06 PM
Nice scenery - very tasty!
Title: Re: Mordheim!
Post by: paulr on 05 July 2014, 10:45:50 PM
Quote from: toxicpixie on 05 July 2014, 09:38:06 PM
Nice scenery - very tasty!

Particularly the "Pringles" tower  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Mordheim!
Post by: nikharwood on 28 July 2014, 10:31:24 AM
Looking good, Luddite. I love Mordheim  8)

It's also how I met SteveJ  :)
Title: Re: Mordheim!
Post by: Steve J on 28 July 2014, 11:15:35 AM
Yep, Nik and I met at a fellow gamers shed a good few years ago now. Many great games had over the years, especially at the Specialist Games event in Nottingham.
Title: Re: Mordheim!
Post by: Ithoriel on 28 July 2014, 03:42:33 PM
Quote from: Steve J on 28 July 2014, 11:15:35 AM
Yep, Nik and I met at a fellow gamers shed a good few years ago now. Many great games had over the years, especially at the Specialist Games event in Nottingham.

I have wondered how many of the pseudonyms here mask people I've met. I met Nik at a Specialist Games event at GW Lenton when he'd transferred from the Warmaster competition to the Mordheim one ... heresy! IIRC it made numbers even or brought the Mordheim numbers up to the minimum required for a GW event or some such excuse. Still, one less opponent in a competition has its upsides :D
Title: Re: Mordheim!
Post by: nikharwood on 29 July 2014, 09:54:30 AM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 28 July 2014, 03:42:33 PM
I have wondered how many of the pseudonyms here mask people I've met. I met Nik at a Specialist Games event at GW Lenton when he'd transferred from the Warmaster competition to the Mordheim one ... heresy! IIRC it made numbers even or brought the Mordheim numbers up to the minimum required for a GW event or some such excuse. Still, one less opponent in a competition has its upsides :D

That's a good point - I've no idea how many real people I know / have met over the years!

I'm a shocker when it comes to heresy - total crowd pleaser  ;)

IIRC, though, that switch went pretty well...think I won a prize and stuff  8)