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Title: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: DanJ on 13 June 2014, 11:39:52 AM
Mad Lemmy originate as a Nubian Warlord in a long running DBA campaign at the Lancaster Games Club.

Since then he has reputedly moved to southern Engand to teach, purchase large numbers of 10mm figures and post prodigiously on the Pendraken forum.

However he has now returned to his spiritual place of birth. 

The Lancaster club is just starting a Dux Britaniarum campaign and while creating my Britisg Lord rolled 'The Insane' as his sobriquet, swifter than a raiding pict the character became 'Lemmarius the Insane'
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 13 June 2014, 12:01:52 PM
YES! ;D
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Techno on 13 June 2014, 03:07:02 PM
 :-bd
Cheers - Phil

Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 13 June 2014, 03:09:06 PM
And here's me thinking it was going to be a eulogy....

IanS
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 13 June 2014, 03:26:13 PM
Infamy Ian! They've all got it infamy! :P
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Steve J on 13 June 2014, 07:32:43 PM
Looking forward to how the insane one progress in your campaign :D.
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Hertsblue on 14 June 2014, 09:57:50 AM
The great thing about being insane is that all your inhibitions vanish. You are expected to do the unexpected. Milk it for all it's worth, is my advice.

And Lemmy - you are the first wargamer I have ever heard of who became a character in someone else's wargame. Fame at last!
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Techno on 14 June 2014, 11:11:28 AM
Hey....Will.

You know I've posted a letter/package to you today ?
You'll never guess who it's addressed to.  :D :P
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 14 June 2014, 11:13:19 AM
 =O =O =O

Leon quite often puts Lemmey on my orders. Positives used to it!
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Techno on 14 June 2014, 11:20:00 AM
 :D
As long as it gets there !
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 14 June 2014, 11:52:28 AM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 14 June 2014, 11:13:19 AM
Positives used to it!

Meant Posties used to it!!!  >:(
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Techno on 14 June 2014, 04:49:05 PM
Predictive text strikes again !  ;)
Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Last Hussar on 14 June 2014, 06:21:35 PM
Are you saying he's NOT dead yet?
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 14 June 2014, 06:59:07 PM
Not yet, but I'm trying hard!  :P
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 15 June 2014, 07:12:22 AM
Quote from: Last Hussar on 14 June 2014, 06:21:35 PM
Are you saying he's NOT dead yet?

No - he is, we've 'ad no medic's opinion. However his dislike of garlic may be an 'int...

IanS  ;)
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 15 June 2014, 08:28:01 AM
Garlic keeps the polar bears away....
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 15 June 2014, 10:48:09 AM
So you are infested with Polar Bears.......


IanS
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 16 June 2014, 03:48:09 PM
This arrived today from Techno Towers!
(http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc94/madlemmey/Mobile%20Uploads/fc043801-2c65-437b-87d6-bad1e1e407f7_zps419cdc94.jpg) (http://s214.photobucket.com/user/madlemmey/media/Mobile%20Uploads/fc043801-2c65-437b-87d6-bad1e1e407f7_zps419cdc94.jpg.html)
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Matt J on 16 June 2014, 04:41:13 PM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

class!
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: fsn on 16 June 2014, 06:02:02 PM
Can we close or rename this topic? The "tribute to" bit makes me feel that he has come to some untoward end ... like being crushed under his lead mountain.

:(
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 16 June 2014, 06:24:26 PM
According to the original Lancaster Campaign He would be over 2200 years old, it's a good way to go...
Think that puts him beyond middle-aged! His descendent Lemmarius The Insane sounds a sprightly young fellow, a warrior chief descended from a Nubian Limitarii officer,sent to shore up Britannia no doubt! Aton be merciful.
Don't you hate people who refere to themselves in the third person?
Yes we does my precious... Gollumgollum!
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: mollinary on 16 June 2014, 06:42:18 PM
The theme of this thread is a bit addictive. Moving us forward in time to the nineteenth century, perhaps we are looking at an eccentric Prussian cavalryman, von Lemmus,,known as "Der Spinner"?! 

Mollinary
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: mollinary on 16 June 2014, 06:44:53 PM
Or perhaps, warming to my theme, Marechal Le Mey le Fou?
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 16 June 2014, 07:16:03 PM
 ;D
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Techno on 16 June 2014, 09:14:24 PM
Just tell me who you want the next one addressed to, Will. ;)
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 17 June 2014, 06:16:03 AM
Me

IanS
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Last Hussar on 17 June 2014, 05:24:01 PM
Quote from: fsn on 16 June 2014, 06:02:02 PM
Can we close or rename this topic? The "tribute to" bit makes me feel that he has come to some untoward end ... like being crushed under his lead mountain.

:(

We could just kill him. Make it all nice and neat.
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 17 June 2014, 06:07:44 PM
 :o ^#(^ :-t :-t X_X O:-)
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: FierceKitty on 18 June 2014, 01:04:18 AM
Forgive unhappy ignorance of outsider: who this honourable Remmy person?
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: paulr on 18 June 2014, 01:45:04 AM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 17 June 2014, 06:07:44 PM
:o ^#(^ :-t :-t X_X O:-)

:o ^#(^ :-t :-t X_X  :d is perhaps more accurate  ;D ;D
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 18 June 2014, 08:15:35 AM
 :P  ;D
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: DanJ on 18 June 2014, 09:53:58 AM
So far not much happening in the campaign as people are still sorting out figures etc.

However Lemmarius's rather fragile hold on reality has been noted by a few, he was recently seen walking by the local river muttering "Where are all the papyrus?" and "Shouldn't Eden be a bit warmer?"


Note for the geographically challenged (southerners) The Vale of Eden is at the centre of the Kingdom of North Rheged and flows through Carlisle.  All rather ironic for a character claiming descent from a Nubian Warlord.
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 18 June 2014, 11:30:17 AM
 ;D. Sounds about right! Brill Dan.
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Hertsblue on 19 June 2014, 07:55:53 AM
Quote from: DanJ on 18 June 2014, 09:53:58 AM

Note for the geographically challenged (southerners) The Vale of Eden is at the centre of the Kingdom of North Rheged and flows through Carlisle.  All rather ironic for a character claiming descent from a Nubian Warlord.

Is that the bit on the map marked "here be dragons"?
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: DanJ on 19 June 2014, 10:16:19 AM
QuoteIs that the bit on the map marked "here be dragons"?

Only in the sense that it's north of Watford.

But there are no serpents in Eden, don't you know any history?  :P
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 19 June 2014, 11:29:05 AM
No Dragons live south and west of the Welsh Dee - least that's what the natives think trains are......


IanS
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Ithoriel on 19 June 2014, 08:31:20 PM
HERE be dragons :)

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10300498_853311764685800_7004410761350940045_n.png)

Bucharest, Romania apparently.
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Hertsblue on 20 June 2014, 09:05:32 AM
Oh, I like that. How do you fancy creeping in at dead of night, removing the dragon's head and making the hole very much bigger? Do you think it would worry the residents?   :D :D :D
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Leman on 20 June 2014, 10:02:48 AM
And I thought this was going to be about Lemmy's prodigious 10mm output.
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 20 June 2014, 10:54:32 AM
Which has slowed right down at the moment...
Although the rats are now base coated and inked... ;)
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: DanJ on 23 July 2014, 09:35:04 AM
The Following is taken from the 'Annals of Northern Rheged' and records the first battle of 'Lemmarius the Insane'

In the year of our Lord 580 the men of Britain were hard pressed by the barbaric pagan Saxons, Picts, Scotti and other ignorant and unwashed men too numerous and foul to mention.  By the grace of God the Kingdom of Northern  Rheged was saved from their depredations until April of that year when the Saxons of Bernacia foolishly chose to raid that Land.

By many diverse and sly routes the Saxons made their way into Northern Rheged, ravaged the land and made off with a vast flock of sheep, hoping to scuttle back to their heathen land before the wrath of the Lord could fall upon them.  In this wish the heathen were sadly disappointed and the men of the North, led by Lemmarius fell upon them.

Hampered by their ill-gotten gains the Saxons moved with all the fleetness of the legendary sloth creature from the exotic lands of the Amazons.  Great was the slaughter of the ungodly, many Saxons fell to the blades of the faithful, including one of their leaders in iniquity (this chronicle will not sully itself by recording his name), in return the Saxons handled their weapons with all the skill and vigour of geriatric nursemaids, although a few lucky blows slew a handful of the British and sore wounded Lemmarius who stood with his warriors all through the day.

The battle was long and bloody and ended only at the fall of darkness when the Saxons fled the field of slaughter, many moons will wax and wane before before they dare to disturb the peace of Northern Rheged and trouble the men of Lemmarius.  The flocks of the north were returned to their home fells and the innocent animals spared a hideous and unnatural fate at the hands of the pagan Saxon.

Such was the scale of the victory that men flocked to the banner of Lemmarius, filling the ranks of the slain and providing him with a new unit of men skilled in the arts of skirmish.
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 23 July 2014, 09:49:07 AM
Your chroniclers scribe well!
Did Lemmarius require the Holy Sticking Plaster of Lundy or is he fully recovered from his wounds?

As is quoted in the 'Great Book of Annals of Leychton Bustard': "Any illuminations?"
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Hertsblue on 23 July 2014, 09:50:54 AM
Just the usual Saturday night in the town centre after a home game, then?  :D

Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: DanJ on 23 July 2014, 01:30:05 PM
QuoteDid Lemmarius require the Holy Sticking Plaster of Lundy or is he fully recovered from his wounds?

As is quoted in the 'Great Book of Annals of Leychton Bustard': "Any illuminations?"

The wounds of Lemmarius were anointed with sacred oil distilled from the holy bones of St Brushinarius the trice annoying and he recovered his full vigour forthwith.

Unfortunately such was the speed of the men of rheged that the prelimiary sketches of the the holy illuminators were out of focus too blurred to be worked up into a full illumination however it is hoped that Lemmarius will concent to posing for the picture smiths of Shield Wall magazine.
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 23 July 2014, 02:45:14 PM
Glad to hear he's recovered.

Brushinarious was canonized!? One would believe he should have been condemned to eternal purgatory for his blasphemousness actions! Someone must have recognised his divinity posthumously!

Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: DanJ on 23 July 2014, 02:56:02 PM
QuoteBrushinarious was canonized!? One would believe he should have been condemned to eternal purgatory for his blasphemousness actions! Someone must have recognised his divinity posthumously!

I think the Pontiff just got fed up with the unceasing wingeing of the saint's many accolites in the Moaning Monks of Morecambe.   
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: DanJ on 25 July 2014, 10:54:47 AM
The man his self, with the biggest flag...

(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa242/danandsan/Lemmarius1.jpg) (http://s198.photobucket.com/user/danandsan/media/Lemmarius1.jpg.html)


With his elites and warriors ...

(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa242/danandsan/Lemmarius2.jpg) (http://s198.photobucket.com/user/danandsan/media/Lemmarius2.jpg.html)

And the full warband of North Reghed...

(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa242/danandsan/Lemmarius3.jpg) (http://s198.photobucket.com/user/danandsan/media/Lemmarius3.jpg.html)
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Leman on 25 July 2014, 11:25:12 AM
Ooooooh. Very nice.
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: toxicpixie on 25 July 2014, 12:02:09 PM
*Really* nice stuff there :D
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Techno on 25 July 2014, 12:04:13 PM
SPLENDID !! 8)
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 25 July 2014, 01:27:04 PM
Absolutely brilliant Dan! (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)

Where's the cat? ;)
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Leman on 25 July 2014, 03:35:35 PM
The trouble with such good eye candy is it tempts me away from what I'm supposed to be getting on with.
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: paulr on 26 July 2014, 02:57:18 AM
 :-bd =D> :-bd =D> :-bd
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Hertsblue on 26 July 2014, 08:35:16 AM
Truly beautiful. I'm guessing they're not 10mm though?
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: FierceKitty on 26 July 2014, 09:09:15 AM
If those are 10mm, I'm quitting now!
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: FierceKitty on 26 July 2014, 09:13:52 AM
And if they're 6mm, I want a white stick.
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Hertsblue on 26 July 2014, 10:06:40 AM
You can have a white stick anyway, FK. Just be careful where you're waving it.
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Steve J on 26 July 2014, 10:55:02 AM
Excellent work 8). Shield transfers and flags make such a difference to 28mm models, really bringing them to life :).
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 26 July 2014, 11:04:46 AM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 26 July 2014, 09:13:52 AM
And if they're 6mm, I want a white stick.

White Stick - some sort of ritual sacrifice weapon ?

Those are 3mm obviously.    ;)

IanS
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: DanJ on 27 July 2014, 11:43:36 AM
QuoteWhere's the cat?

Unfortunately the lady with the cat was burned at the stake, my God man, don't you know we're in the Dark Ages?  You've got about a 1200 year wait until it's safe to own a cat.  Lemmarius might be insane but he's not stupid.

The figures are 28mm, almost all Wind with LBM transfers.  I quite fancy doing this period in 10mm with several figures on a base but haven't sat down and worked through all the ramifications yet.
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Leman on 27 July 2014, 01:59:16 PM
I do it like that with three figures to a penny for foot, two for skirmishers and two cavalry to a 2p, viz:

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g440/dourpuritan/10mm%20Dux%20Britanniarum/IMG_0855_zps8dd0d6ff.jpg)
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Leman on 27 July 2014, 02:01:48 PM
Close up

(http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g440/dourpuritan/10mm%20Dux%20Britanniarum/IMG_0860_zps69f6c2d7.jpg)
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 27 July 2014, 02:03:13 PM
Lovely work DP!

Sorry Dan, forgot which century we were in, must get the yearometer fixed on my Tardis...
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Techno on 27 July 2014, 02:38:55 PM
Very nice, indeed !  8)
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Hertsblue on 28 July 2014, 08:43:05 AM
Quote from: Dour Puritan on 27 July 2014, 01:59:16 PM
I do it like that with three figures to a penny for foot, two for skirmishers and two cavalry to a 2p, viz:

How do you manage to get three figures for a penny and two cavalry for 2p? That's some discount!  :D

Seriously, though, the level of detail on those tiny figures is remarkable.
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: FierceKitty on 28 July 2014, 09:04:12 AM
Weren't pennies once made of silver?
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Leman on 28 July 2014, 11:21:07 AM
Quote from: Hertsblue on 28 July 2014, 08:43:05 AM
How do you manage to get three figures for a penny and two cavalry for 2p? That's some discount!  :D

Seriously, though, the level of detail on those tiny figures is remarkable.

The level of detail owes an awful lot to the skills of the sculptor. I just paint the bumps.
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: nikharwood on 28 July 2014, 11:37:09 AM
Lovely, lovely. The figures, not Will, natch  ;) :P :d :D
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 28 July 2014, 12:36:00 PM
Humph! I am lovely!
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: nikharwood on 28 July 2014, 12:57:01 PM
I'm sure you are. But are you:
- slim
- blonde
- female?

:D
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 28 July 2014, 01:43:08 PM
-Not since 1997.
-not since 2000.
Not since (CENSORED
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: nikharwood on 28 July 2014, 01:49:08 PM
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Leman on 28 July 2014, 02:59:08 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 28 July 2014, 01:43:08 PM
-Not since 1997.
-not since 2000.
Not since (CENSORED

Ah well (sigh).
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Hertsblue on 29 July 2014, 07:25:39 AM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 28 July 2014, 01:43:08 PM
-Not since 1997.
-not since 2000.
Not since (CENSORED


Regarding that last reply -  I know they can cut them off; I didn't realise they could stick them back on again.  :o :o :o
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 29 July 2014, 10:56:44 PM
Dan,
Was looking through one of my 15mm boxes for my army for Thursday,
Look who I found: The original Mad Lemmey & Urst!
(http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc94/madlemmey/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps296ada9f.jpg) (http://s214.photobucket.com/user/madlemmey/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps296ada9f.jpg.html)
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: fsn on 30 July 2014, 06:12:40 AM
Is that a cat with them?
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 30 July 2014, 07:23:01 AM
Certainly looks like one...

IanS
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 30 July 2014, 07:24:30 AM
Yup, Urst, the Nubian warlords favourite.
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Leman on 30 July 2014, 10:18:56 AM
Thank goodness for that! I thought it was Mrs Slocum's wimp.
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Techno on 30 July 2014, 11:21:59 AM
You tried to put the 'p' word down, didn't you, DP ? ;) ;D ;D ;D

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Leman on 30 July 2014, 11:29:32 AM
Yeah, what happened there them? Are we not allowed to write wussy?
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Hertsblue on 30 July 2014, 12:47:26 PM
wimp, wimp, wimp, wimp

So you can't write a perfectly ordinary English word without it being corrupted by an American irrelevance?  >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Leman on 30 July 2014, 02:10:40 PM
So I can't write that I stroked a wimp cat yesterday. what about pussycat.
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Leman on 30 July 2014, 02:11:23 PM
One word works then.
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: nikharwood on 31 July 2014, 03:45:07 PM
Quote from: fsn on 30 July 2014, 06:12:40 AM
Is that a cat with them?

Looks like a Fierce Kitty to me...
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Leman on 31 July 2014, 09:11:31 PM
Whoa! what;s happened to Mrs.Slocum's neaver?
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 01 August 2014, 07:25:24 AM
N
Quote from: nikharwood on 31 July 2014, 03:45:07 PM
Looks like a Fierce Kitty to me...

  No - cant be - not spotted or wearing feathers.

IanS
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Leman on 01 August 2014, 07:34:48 AM
Quote from: Dour Puritan on 31 July 2014, 09:11:31 PM
Whoa! what;s happened to Mrs.Slocum's neaver?
Erm, it's on another thread,doh!
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: FierceKitty on 01 August 2014, 09:03:59 AM
Quote from: nikharwood on 31 July 2014, 03:45:07 PM
Looks like a Fierce Kitty to me...

Nah, not enough raw sexual charisma.
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 01 August 2014, 11:18:07 AM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 01 August 2014, 09:03:59 AM
Nah, not enough raw sexual charisma.

We definitely need a 2nd - UNBIASED opinion on that. 

IanS  ;)
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: FierceKitty on 01 August 2014, 12:43:34 PM
Quote from: ianrs54 on 01 August 2014, 11:18:07 AM
We definitely need a 2nd - UNBIASED opinion on that. 

IanS  ;)

Nah, not enough raw sexual charisma. (There you are.)
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: nikharwood on 01 August 2014, 02:12:13 PM
 :D ;D :D

Good skills.
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Hertsblue on 02 August 2014, 10:43:43 AM
From the Cambridge Free Dictionary:

Unbiased: able to judge fairly because you are not influenced by your own opinions:

Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: FierceKitty on 02 August 2014, 10:58:08 AM
Much though I hate to give a puff to our rivals, it's the Other Place that's associated with dictionary work.
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Hertsblue on 03 August 2014, 10:16:54 AM
The definition is valid in either place.  =)
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Last Hussar on 10 August 2014, 09:11:46 PM
Is thread still going?  Hasn't he died yet?
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 11 August 2014, 06:05:34 AM
No unfortunately he's very very well.

IanS  ;)
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 11 August 2014, 08:25:29 AM
Yup
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 12 August 2014, 06:54:08 AM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 11 August 2014, 08:25:29 AM
Yup

Who asked you ?  ;)


IanS
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Hertsblue on 12 August 2014, 08:16:25 AM
Now, now; play nicely.
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Leman on 13 August 2014, 11:06:30 AM
Lauren Laverne has just said, on the radio, that Lemmy is always lyrically perceptive.  =D> =D>
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 13 August 2014, 03:09:14 PM
 =O =O m/ m/
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: DanJ on 20 August 2014, 02:11:08 PM
Well zero out of two aint bad
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Last Hussar on 20 August 2014, 03:05:52 PM
So.

Is he dead yet?
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Leman on 20 August 2014, 03:38:05 PM
Nah - he's still churning out the FPW lads.
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Techno on 20 August 2014, 03:55:38 PM
Quote from: Dour Puritan on 13 August 2014, 11:06:30 AM
Lauren Laverne has just said, on the radio, that Lemmy is always lyrically perceptive.  =D> =D>

Hey.....Does that mean that Lemmey's got a second membership on the forum, and is just pretending to be someone called Rob (Ace of Spades) from the Netherlands.
I think we should be told......All a bit fishy to me. (Said he, transparently attempting to goad people into yet more dreadful puns.) :P
Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Leman on 20 August 2014, 03:57:21 PM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D. Rod Hull - both associated with fish.
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: DanJ on 20 August 2014, 04:17:41 PM
Not only is Lemmarius alive and well he had another victory last night.....

Lemmarius the Insane Rides Again

The rich Kingdom of Northern Rheged enjoyed peace for many moons weeks  days following the great victory of Lemmarius over the Saxon dogs but in the uncertain times we live in such peace is ephemeral and dependent on the might of a Lord's Sword Arm.

And so it came to pass that the Picts, failing to learn from the dire fate of the Saxons determined to fall upon the land, lay it waste, despoil it of its wealth and in particular raid the Holy Shrine of St Brushinarius the Thrice Annoying, nestling under its mighty cliff.

Lord Lemmarius met the Picts before the Holy Shrine and the Anger of the Lord at the audacity of the heathen was frightening to behold as He sent a great storm to terrify and confuse the unbelievers.  Five units of Mounted Elites, warriors, bowmen and skirmishers hastened to the shrine in the first instance while the local levy gathered their weapons and courage to arrive in due course.

Knowing well the cunning of the Picts and understanding their cowardly tactics Lemmarius directed his archers and skirmishers to engage their counterparts in the Pictish force. {This tactic proved quite effective as the two groups effectively fought each other to a standstill and the British warriors were screened from the Pictish missiles for most of the game.}

On the opposite flank the Pictish cavalry moved to threaten the Holy Shrine but Lemmarius led his Elite heavy cavalry and champion forwards to counter them and in a bold charge caught the raiders and contended mightily with them, forcing them to withdrawn in confusion and ignominy. {The mounted British Lord, his mounted champion and four shock cavalry charged the picts;  the result,  1 dead and 3 shock on the picts for a couple of shock on the Britains, considering the number of dice rolled the result could have been better but if effectively took the pictish cavalry out of the game.}

In response the Pictish Lord led a unit of raiders against Lemmarius and smote him and his men sorely, inflicting a minor wound on Lemmarius with their fruit knives but forcing them from the field of glory. {This was a calculated risk, I though the Picts might do this but hoped I'd get away with it, in the end the cavalry 'lost their amphora' and legged it but Lemmarius and Champion were able to get away and the Picts were now down to three units of foot raiders in the centre.}

While the Lord Lemmarius lured the Pictish lord away Lemmarius's loyal nobles led the Foot Warriors and Levy forward to engage the remaining raiders.  Great was the slaughter, the mounds of the slain were piled high in the storm of the Lord but the stacks of shock were higher still and the ungodly gave ground in the face of the Shield Wall of the Righteous.  { The battle between the Warriors and Levy on one side and the Raiders on the other was hard fought but the shield wall proved vital and although few raiders died the accumulation of shock became decisive, especially when one raider unit broke and routed through another unit of Raiders who took lots of shock themselves.}

Finally, as Darkness fell the Picts realised they would never attain the sacred relics of Holy St Brushinarius and legged it for their remote hovels in the North hotly pursued by the heroes of North Rheged.  Lord Lemmarius drank heartily of the wine of victory and a veritable thieves horde of plunder was stripped from the slain.  So inspirational was the victory that two fresh warriors have come forth from the men of Rheged and pledged themselves to the banner of Lemmarius while holy mother church, moved by the actions of Lemmarius in saving the shine of the Blessed St Brushinarius, has sent  old father Roggerius to join the warband of Lemmarius bringing spiritual succour to the warriors of Northern Rheged.  {I was lucky to be holding a couple of pursuit cards at the end of the game which pushed the victory up to +5 bringing a couple of extra warriors, while winning the church raid scenario gave me a priest who can remove 1 point of shock per game.}

In a last and fitting tribute to the victory the Monks of St Brushinarius have renamed the cliff beneath which their shine settles and henceforth and forever it shall be known as Caer Pictrunawayedd.
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: paulr on 20 August 2014, 07:52:11 PM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D

A great report that would only be enhanced by some pictures  ;)
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 20 August 2014, 10:53:33 PM
 :-h
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: paulr on 21 August 2014, 04:57:18 AM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 20 August 2014, 10:53:33 PM
:-h

He is alive  :o      ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Leman on 21 August 2014, 05:59:26 AM
Excellent report. sounds like great fun.
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Techno on 21 August 2014, 06:54:27 AM
 8)
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: DanJ on 22 August 2014, 01:13:58 PM
In the DB campaign I play North Rheged and have been quite lucky, my neighbor to the south hasn't been so fortunate and has had a couple of rough encounters with the Irish.

In an attempt to encourage a better class (one that's easier to beat) class of raider he's launched a ne tourist drive.....

(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa242/danandsan/SouthRhegedTourismPoster.jpg) (http://s198.photobucket.com/user/danandsan/media/SouthRhegedTourismPoster.jpg.html)
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: toxicpixie on 22 August 2014, 01:35:02 PM
Awesome-sauce :D

Although if he's getting beaten so much shouldn't the advert be "Please don't come here for a generation, we've nothing left for you to steal! Go north, they're rich and have loads of stuff to plunder! Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaase go north!"

;D
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: DanJ on 22 August 2014, 02:33:04 PM
QuoteAlthough if he's getting beaten so much shouldn't the advert be "Please don't come here for a generation, we've nothing left for you to steal! Go north, they're rich and have loads of stuff to plunder! Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaase go north!"

He's trying to encourage Saxons to visit, he knows how to beat saxons  :D  on the other hand Irish are a real pain and several among us think the Irish force is just too strong.
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: toxicpixie on 22 August 2014, 02:35:37 PM
It's not often you hear that in wargames rules!

How are the Irish so good?
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Leman on 22 August 2014, 02:38:15 PM
They managed to put down permanent settlements in Wales in the Dark Ages.
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: toxicpixie on 22 August 2014, 02:42:05 PM
And the Scotti shoved the Picts out or culturally ate them in the North, for that matter :)

But wargames rules don't usually make them much good... although they're a sod to deal with in Peter Pigs Longships! rules. Lots of free and very useful skirmishers, and by the time you drive them off and settle down to serious plunder an awful lot of steadier guys have arrived to swamp you. Ok, they're not much one on one versus a shieldwall but it goes a bit Isandlwana if you're not careful!
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: DanJ on 22 August 2014, 03:39:05 PM
QuoteHow are the Irish so good?

There are a few smallish things but together they add up.

The Irish skirmishers are activated on their own card but are commanded and come under the level 1 noble, this allows the noble to remove shock from skirmishers, something which the British, Saxons and Picts don't have (and the British and Saxons start the campaign without any skirmisers, only a unit of 4 missiles).

Mounting the Irish Lord in a chariot upgrades his skirmish cavalry to raider cavalry class which makes them much more dangerous in combat (they get an extra attack dice for each point of shock on an enemy unit).

The Irish Lord also gets a sling attack, with +1 to hit and +1 effect and no movement modifier. This means he has a 67% chance of inflicting shock or a kill on a levy unit, 50% on a warrior unit and 34% on an elite unit.  This is a free ability with no penalty, no other faction commander has any sort bonus like this, he is also classed as an athlete which means, among other things, he can jump out of combat if the dice decide he should be hit.

The Scots are similar but at least don't get any special lord bonus.
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: toxicpixie on 22 August 2014, 03:50:28 PM
Sounds like a "they're full of skirmishers/light troops and those aren't any good, so we better give them a load of specials to make up for it" when they're actually already pretty balanced?
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Leman on 22 August 2014, 07:49:53 PM
Thing is, I don't see a chariot being taken overseas on a raid.
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: toxicpixie on 22 August 2014, 09:06:43 PM
Kind of hard to fit in a coracle! Mind so's a horse...
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 22 August 2014, 10:24:17 PM
Great poster Dan!
Irish do sound a bit 'broken'. Can't a handily dug pit be placed in front of that general?
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Leman on 23 August 2014, 07:53:02 AM
I assume raiders would pick up horses on their first raid, but I associate Irish chariots with the warfare at home between the Irish tribes.
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Last Hussar on 23 August 2014, 08:23:13 AM
I take it these are the Lardie rules (I've only seen DB referred to - and there are 2 sets of Early Medieval rules with those initials).

The problem with rule sets is that its very hard to create the real world consistently.  A v B works fine, but every extra army/troop type just complicates things by a greater factor than the number of things added (I am fully aware that we all know this!).  Plus it often defies expectation

A beats B
B beats C
so
A always beats C?

Um no.

War is an art as much as a science, and while there are good real world reasons A>B>C>A, because we have to provide all the physics its easy for loopholes to occur.
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: toxicpixie on 23 August 2014, 08:42:31 AM
Yeah, rules balancing is always tricky. I tinker with a few bits & bobs of rules writing & amendments and I can never satisfy myself either with my own rules or other peoples!

Dux Bellorum sounds good - the Irish Question is the first hint I've seen of misbalance so I'm intrigued more than I should be, I think!
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: toxicpixie on 23 August 2014, 08:50:30 AM
Hang on, I think I'm confusing my systems there - it's Dux *Britanarium* you're playing isn't it?! Think I've only heard decent things about both?!
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: DanJ on 26 August 2014, 10:14:02 AM
QuoteHang on, I think I'm confusing my systems there - it's Dux *Britanarium* you're playing isn't it?!

Yes it's Dux Britaniarum by Toofatlardies.

I played a small campaign with Saxons which ran to two campaign years with Saxons vs British, the games were pretty close and well balanced.

It's the new Raiders Supliment which is giving us issues.  I can see the reasons behind the new factions and rules and historically the raider nations caused a lot of problems but from a game balance perspective the original British and Saxons only recruit a unit of skirmishers after winning a game by a margin of +6 or 7 which is very hard.  The British can upgrade a few troops to shock cavalry which are useful but then need fortune (and good cards) to catch the raiders. 

All in all the games now seems slightly out of balance but the Irish Warlord seems to add an extra advantage which none of the other factions enjoy.
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Last Hussar on 27 August 2014, 07:16:33 PM
I'm going to use (GW) Uruk Hai v Rohan.

Now I'm thinking  Uruks as Raiders/Saxons- yes?  But they have the big shields, so shield wall better?  Nor have Rohan with the shield wall.
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: DanJ on 08 September 2014, 08:50:16 AM
In DB only the British have the ability to use shield wall.

The rules state "The Shieldwall is a close order defensive formation of two or more Groups. This is only available to Foot Soldiers and, in this period, only to British forces as the Saxons are lightly armed raiders who fight with smaller buckler style shields".

This seems reasonable and certainly makes for an interesting dynamic between British and Saxons.  All the new raiders armies can't use shield wall either which helps the British survivability but makes them slow to manouver.
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: DanJ on 25 September 2014, 08:44:09 AM
The Official Annals of North Reged - Continued

In the sixth month of the year of our Lord 580 the land of Northern 'Graveyard of the Barbarians' Rheged
lay basking in the summer sun; crops were ripening, livestock fattening and the people prospered under the
protection of the Lord Lemarius (known with affection as 'The Insane')

Into this bucolic ideal swept the Irish, intent on despoiling the lands and people.  Avoiding the watchful eyes of Lemarius's border tower the barbarians grounded their roll-on-roll-off coracles on the beaches of Tunnocellum and after unloading their chief's anachronistic chariot rolled inland towards the peaks and summer pastures of the high fells.

Intent on committing foul mischief, despicable crimes and mortal sins the Irish decided to raid the prosperous Hamlet of Shapistum high in the valleys of the Eastern Mountains. 

Fortunately for the innocent inhabitants Lemmarius was warned of the Irish's arrival and took his war band to contest their progress.  Fortune and the hot summer sun, smiled on Lemmarius and moving through secret ways and tracks, guided by the men of Shapistum, he arrived at that village as the unwashed sweated and struggled up to the valley.

IRISH CAVALRY

(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa242/danandsan/IMG_0135.jpg) (http://s198.photobucket.com/user/danandsan/media/IMG_0135.jpg.html)

On arriving before the village the Irish were dismayed to find the vanguard of Lemmarius's warband already in the village.  As the hairy barbarians struggled forward in the heat Lemmarius himself arrived with his elite cavalry, bowmen, skirmishers and a good turn out from the village levy.

Although Lemarius found it difficult to deploy his men in the close terrain around the village the Irish were downcast by the size of his warband, their holiness, their cleanliness and the tightness of their shield wall.  After a few desultory exchanges between the skirmishers on both sides the Irish decided they faced certain defeat and took to their heals, running pelmel and helter skelter back to their coracles which they launched in great haste and paddled swiftly away looking for easier pickings.

The men of Shapistum, although poor were so grateful for their salvation that they offered Lemarius what little they had and gifted the victorious warlord a small bowl of treasure which the Lord Lemmarius graciously received and vowed to use for the welfare of all by investing it in another watch tower to guard the borders of Northern Reged

And so as the heat of the day abated the men of Shapistum returned rejoicing to their peaceful toil and Lemmarius returned victorious to his hall.

ALMOST THE FULL IRISH WARBAND

(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa242/danandsan/IMG_0133.jpg) (http://s198.photobucket.com/user/danandsan/media/IMG_0133.jpg.html)

Translation (What actually happened)

Matt decided to raid the province of Tunnocellum, thereby avoiding my watch tower in Caer Ligualid.  However Tunnocellum is the Lake District and the terrain was particularly dense, two mountains, two forests, a wood and a couple of other minor bits and pieces.

The scenario was the village raid and the village turned out to be in the shadow of one of the mountains and close by two of the forests, it was immediately christened Shap.  The weather was a heat wave which removed the 'Bounding Move' and 'Fleet of Foot' cards from the Fate Deck.

Matt rolled a 1 for his set up and only had one turn before I arrived; rolling for my arrival point I ended up in the village!  In the first turn my warriors arrived and moved to guard the only feasible approach to the village from Matt's deployment zone.  In the second turn the rest of my force arrived and with three units of Levy in the village, the cavalry trying to manoeuvre between the rear of the warriors and the village and the bowmen only moving 4" and getting in the way of everyone things were getting very crowded.  Only my skirmishers deploying to take on Matt's skirmishers did anything.

After another turn or two Matt decided he couldn't achieve a scenario victory and decided to pull back, I was happy to accept a 1 point victory as I couldn't see a way of deploying to achieve anything of note.

At this point we decided to play on to see what might have happened and I was very glad Matt had decided to withdraw when he did, his cavalry charge achieved little in the confined area available and he bounced off my cavalry.  However before I could reply (and I had a full hand of cards which should have seen me destroy his cavalry in 1 charge the massed raider infantry attacked my warriors who, despite being in shield wall and braced were substantially out diced with one of the infantry units breaking through the woods to catch my cavalry in the flank.

In a couple of turns I lost my shock cavalry, Lord (wounded twice) and two units of warriors.  Force Morale tumbled after three poor dice rolls and everything else ran away. 

The obvious moral of this tale being 'if you've got raiders, get stuck in'.
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 25 September 2014, 11:11:30 AM
Lovely looking forces Dan, and another great report. :)
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Last Hussar on 25 September 2014, 06:03:54 PM
So. Are you dead yet?  :-\
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 25 September 2014, 06:31:21 PM
No, keep your fingers crossed mate!
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: paulr on 25 September 2014, 08:01:36 PM
 :-bd =D> :-bd =D>

Very nice looking army, must be fun getting that chariot in a coracle   ;) ;D

It is interesting how a players morale can fail before the armies  :)
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 26 September 2014, 06:41:41 AM
Quote from: Last Hussar on 25 September 2014, 06:03:54 PM
So. Are you dead yet?  :-\

IF NOT - IT CAN BE ARRAIGNED

IanS  :d
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: DanJ on 26 September 2014, 08:41:52 AM
QuoteIt is interesting how a players morale can fail before the armies 

I've noticed this before, and almost always in a campaign setting, I think it underlines one of the key aspects and advantages of playing in a campaign, especially one with multiple players.

A player in a campaign can't afford to loose or indeed risk loosing by such a margin that he is weakened to the extent that his future in the campaign is put at risk.  Players become much more circumspect and I see the "it's nearly the end of the evening so I'll try one mad charge which my opponent won't have time to react to even if I loose" situations occuring far less in campaigns where it's almost always about husbanding resources to ensure having a force sufficient to carry on. 

In fact in some campaigns I've run the players actually spend most of their time trying to aviod fighting each other as the concequences can be catastrophic in campaign terms, in these situations war is "carried on by other means" which include spying, muder, raiding and gtrying to get others to do the dangerous fighting for you, al of which is quite historic.
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: FierceKitty on 26 September 2014, 08:47:05 AM
Loose what?
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Fenton on 26 September 2014, 08:51:36 AM
Quote from: DanJ on 26 September 2014, 08:41:52 AM
I've noticed this before, and almost always in a campaign setting, I think it underlines one of the key aspects and advantages of playing in a campaign, especially one with multiple players.

A player in a campaign can't afford to loose or indeed risk loosing by such a margin that he is weakened to the extent that his future in the campaign is put at risk.  Players become much more circumspect and I see the "it's nearly the end of the evening so I'll try one mad charge which my opponent won't have time to react to even if I loose" situations occuring far less in campaigns where it's almost always about husbanding resources to ensure having a force sufficient to carry on. 

In fact in some campaigns I've run the players actually spend most of their time trying to aviod fighting each other as the concequences can be catastrophic in campaign terms, in these situations war is "carried on by other means" which include spying, muder, raiding and gtrying to get others to do the dangerous fighting for you, al of which is quite historic.

Me and another player once won a campaign by not doing any fighting at all and persuading all the other nations to have a go at each other
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: DanJ on 26 September 2014, 10:16:32 AM
QuoteLoose what?
....... probably morals

Damn, the problem of being dyslexic and relying on the spell checker :'(
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Ithoriel on 26 September 2014, 10:37:15 AM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 26 September 2014, 08:47:05 AM
Loose what?

The dogs of war?

The fateful lightning of his terrible swift sword?
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Leman on 26 September 2014, 04:13:56 PM
Nuts? Wheels might fall off!
Title: Re: A Tribute to Mad Lemmy
Post by: Hertsblue on 27 September 2014, 03:36:57 PM
Elastic? Who knows what might fall off....