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Title: Has anyone glued paper to fabric? - Help required
Post by: Dickie255 on 28 May 2014, 02:56:29 PM
Hi

I've bought one of those paper backed flocked sheets from the local  model railway shop with the intention of gluing  it to some felt fabric. The intention is to have a gaming mat that can be rolled up when not needed and have books etc. under the mat to make hills.

Has anyone else done it? If so what was the result and any problems?

Title: Re: Has anyone glued paper to fabric? - Help required
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 28 May 2014, 03:04:01 PM
cant see any problems.

IanS
Title: Re: Has anyone glued paper to fabric? - Help required
Post by: fred. on 28 May 2014, 04:21:30 PM
I don't think it will be flexible enough to go over hills well. The paper backing is normally quite thick.
Title: Re: Has anyone glued paper to fabric? - Help required
Post by: fsn on 28 May 2014, 06:06:47 PM
Aren't we becoming a Blue Peter lot?
Title: Re: Has anyone glued paper to fabric? - Help required
Post by: Fenton on 28 May 2014, 06:16:27 PM
Quote from: fred    12df on 28 May 2014, 04:21:30 PM
I don't think it will be flexible enough to go over hills well. The paper backing is normally quite thick.

What if the hills were made from cereal boxes, the top of washing up bottles and sticky backed plastic? and a carefully placed cotton reel?

Some blue tac and a pencil could be useful if you need to make any holes, but it maybe be better to allow an adult (Leon) to do this for you
Title: Re: Has anyone glued paper to fabric? - Help required
Post by: Leon on 28 May 2014, 06:18:29 PM
Quote from: Fenton on 28 May 2014, 06:16:27 PM
..but it maybe be better to allow an adult (Leon) to do this for you

^#(^ =O
Title: Re: Has anyone glued paper to fabric? - Help required
Post by: Techno on 28 May 2014, 08:10:03 PM
Get down, Shep !
Title: Re: Has anyone glued paper to fabric? - Help required
Post by: fsn on 28 May 2014, 09:07:50 PM
Here's one I prepared earlier ...

(http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/JCbXJDywXc0/hqdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Has anyone glued paper to fabric? - Help required
Post by: Fenton on 28 May 2014, 09:39:09 PM
You been feeding the kids Ready Brek again?
Title: Re: Has anyone glued paper to fabric? - Help required
Post by: Kiwidave on 29 May 2014, 05:43:30 AM
The only difficulty I can think of would be keeping both bits flat and wrinkle-free while you're gluing them together.

As fred says, it may not be flexible enough once you've done it though.
Title: Re: Has anyone glued paper to fabric? - Help required
Post by: Fenton on 29 May 2014, 07:39:31 AM
I think you may need a hot glue gun for it,unless there is a really strong spray glue you can buy
Title: Re: Has anyone glued paper to fabric? - Help required
Post by: Steeleye on 29 May 2014, 07:58:04 AM
I once did something like this using PVA glue. It stuck alright but the problem was keeping things wrinkle free and folding it up later.

I think you might need to rethink your idea.

I also agree with a previous contributor that I don't think the book under the blanket method of making hills is going to work either.

Many years ago I had a large grass green blanket that worked pretty well for a couple of years while I was in the army and had to pack my wargames stuff away into the smallest possible space. You might want to try and find something similar.

In fact why not just use a large sheet of green felt?

Title: Re: Has anyone glued paper to fabric? - Help required
Post by: Hertsblue on 29 May 2014, 08:03:54 AM
Quote from: Steeleye on 29 May 2014, 07:58:04 AM

In fact why not just use a large sheet of green felt?


Agreed. Give it a light dusting with dark earth, darker green and charcoal grey - just to tone the basic colour down - and off you go. I'd recommend you spend a little time experimenting first, though.
Title: Re: Has anyone glued paper to fabric? - Help required
Post by: Ithoriel on 29 May 2014, 09:56:07 AM
I use a 6'x4' green felt sheet - picked up from S&A Scenics ( http://scenics.co.uk/ ) at Claymore - and the only slight downside is, as you can see below, the world occasionally needs a coolish iron run over it to get the creases out!
Title: Re: Has anyone glued paper to fabric? - Help required
Post by: WeeWars on 29 May 2014, 11:13:36 AM
Use a latex fabric glue like Copydex. Use as the instructions for fabric gluing. The glue does not dry brittle. My preference would be for a table cloth more like a patchwork quilt. More strip farming than endless plain. Mix torn pieces of grass sheet with brown textured fabric glued to painted table cloth.
Title: Re: Has anyone glued paper to fabric? - Help required
Post by: Dickie255 on 31 May 2014, 10:02:43 AM
Hi Folks

Thanks or the advice and suggestions (after the rather silly ones - bah!)

WW - Cheers for the copydex suggestion, I hadn't thought of it, focusing on some sort of fabric glue and a good idea of the patchwork approach
Ith -  yup, a cool iron might be necessary
SE - thanks for sharing you r experience. I think that the wrinkling will be an issue. Possibly just use a board as a base
Fen - Ta v much for the advice

Thanks all
Title: Re: Has anyone glued paper to fabric? - Help required
Post by: i_am_win on 31 May 2014, 08:30:39 PM
I'd go for the sprayable impact adhesive that you use for fabrics, flooring etc. Its rubber based so is  quite flexible and will stick like nobodys business.
Title: Re: Has anyone glued paper to fabric? - Help required
Post by: Dickie255 on 01 June 2014, 09:40:02 PM
IAW - hey good one! Sounds like a winner for the gluing bit. Cheers
Title: Re: Has anyone glued paper to fabric? - Help required
Post by: Kiwidave on 02 June 2014, 06:39:54 AM
Spray adhesive is great, but it can be tricky to glue two floppy pieces of material together. You need about 8 arms to hold everything, and get them to stay flat whilst manoeuvring said pieces together.

Good luck ! :)
Title: Re: Has anyone glued paper to fabric? - Help required
Post by: Maenoferren on 02 June 2014, 09:42:20 PM
Quote from: WeeWars on 29 May 2014, 11:13:36 AM
Use a latex fabric glue like Copydex. Use as the instructions for fabric gluing. The glue does not dry brittle. My preference would be for a table cloth more like a patchwork quilt. More strip farming than endless plain. Mix torn pieces of grass sheet with brown textured fabric glued to painted table cloth.
was gong to suggest copydex too...however as a disclaimner ... I have never tried it  :D
Title: Re: Has anyone glued paper to fabric? - Help required
Post by: Dickie255 on 03 June 2014, 06:42:40 AM
KD - Oops! Too late as I bought the spray last night but I'll  let everyone know how I go on and if the copydex was a better option too!
Title: Re: Has anyone glued paper to fabric? - Help required
Post by: John Cook on 26 June 2014, 04:43:13 AM
Quote from: Dickie255 on 03 June 2014, 06:42:40 AM
KD - Oops! Too late as I bought the spray last night but I'll  let everyone know how I go on and if the copydex was a better option too!

Dickie, A bit late but for what it is worth I tend to agree with all the potential problems noted already.  I think it is going to be too stiff to 'flow' over stuff underneath.  I have had some success using the weed suppressing fabric you can get from garden centres.  It is black and you need to spray it with acrylic paint and then flock it.  The final result is something like those game mats you can buy, but half the price, which actually seem to be made from this stuff, or something very similar.  I also use it for roads too as it is flexible enough to conform to terrain features.