Basing

Started by FierceKitty, 02 March 2014, 08:44:05 AM

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FierceKitty

Those of you who use epoxy glue: quick- or slow-setting?
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Orcs

I stopped using expoxy glue a long time ago. 

I use the PVA wood glue - the one thats stronger than the wood it bonds.  It will stick 28mm figures to metal washers perfectly ok. I have several hundred figues stuck this way with texture over the pva and only a couple have come off over 10 or more years. I leave them overnight to dry

For 10mm I stick using cheap superglue texture the base using normal pva and sand. This again has few casualties.

You can get fast setting PVA - 5- 10 minutes over here. Its expensive, and I have used it for constructing card buildings. Never used it for basing.

Of you want the figures off you can use a strong craft knife - soaking in hot water helps this but ruins the base
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TinyTerrain

Hi,

A bit like just a few Orcs, I don't use epoxy,  I stick mini to base with a gel superglue and then use decent pva with sand and grit to texture. When dry I then flood the sand and grit with a 50/50 mix of water and pva with a few drops of brown wash. This holds the sand in place and adds some contrast between the elements of the base.

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Craig
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FierceKitty

Quote from: FierceKitty on 02 March 2014, 08:44:05 AM
Those of you who use epoxy glue: quick- or slow-setting?
Many interesting posts, none of them actually answering the question. roflmfao
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Duke Speedy of Leighton

Okay, could have just said NO! But that isn't very constructive.  :P

I used to use two part, slow setting epoxy in the late 80s, but it took forever to dry and I'm not that willing to wait. As soon as was old enough to convince my mum I wasn't actually glue sniffing I was allowed superglue. I only found the joys of pva just before uni!
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nikharwood

Quote from: FierceKitty on 02 March 2014, 12:43:33 PM
Many interesting posts, none of them actually answering the question. roflmfao

You have been on this forum before, FK?  ;) ;D

FierceKitty

Quote from: mad lemmey on 02 March 2014, 12:59:03 PM
Okay, could have just said NO! But that isn't very constructive.  :P

I used to use two part, slow setting epoxy in the late 80s, but it took forever to dry and I'm not that willing to wait. As soon as was old enough to convince my mum I wasn't actually glue sniffing I was allowed superglue. I only found the joys of pva just before uni!
Just don't pick your nose after sniffing superglue!
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Fenton

I presume most people use Superglue because of ease..I can nip down the road and get 8 tubes of cheapo superglue for a pound...epoxy is just to much hassle
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hetairoi

02 March 2014, 02:33:12 PM #9 Last Edit: 02 March 2014, 02:37:12 PM by hetairoi
I usually use superglue, but with 10mm figs I use a paste called Vandal, used in fine arts to give relief and texture. Once dried it hardens enough so that it can be used to stuck the figs to the base.



Edit: sorry, I have not answered the question neither...  =)
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FierceKitty

What're it's good points, Hetairoi?
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hetairoi

It gives you an already textured base (it is much like sand with PVA) and you only have to add some pebbles if you want. Once dried. obout an hour, it is hard as concrete... ok, almost.

I use it on all my bases, 10mm or 28mm.





Also, if you are a fan of rebasing like me, removing a figure it´s easier than using superglue.
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Orcs

Quote from: FierceKitty on 02 March 2014, 01:00:19 PM
Just don't pick your nose after sniffing superglue!

Or get fresh with your other half  :d
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Orcs

Quote from: FierceKitty on 02 March 2014, 12:43:33 PM
Many interesting posts, none of them actually answering the question. roflmfao

Fair Point.  I will answer the question.

When I used to use epoxy glue. Noah was a lad but:-

The slow setting one took forever to set. The fast setting one gave you about 10 mins to move your figures about. So i used to use the fast setting one with extra hardener as  this set in about 5 mins.

I still use it very occasionally for large metal and/or resin fantasy figures

It also was fiddly to use and not very plesant when it inevitably got on your fingers
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FierceKitty

Problem here seems to be that the Thai quickset takes four minutes (too fast), and the slow three hours or more (far too slow).
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